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Zaratol
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Posted - 2006.01.13 21:54:00 -
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I think it's time to change the Stealth Bombers. Warping takes about as long as a Battleship, And it also needs more speed. And the ability to warp cloaked SHOULD also be a part of it.
It is afterall a STEALTH Bomber.
I'd love to hear a DEV's opinion on this. Please discuss...  |
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:00:00 -
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They're fine.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:03:00 -
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It's been discussed countless times why bombers don't have the ability to wear a CO cloak ... It will make the bombers way too overpowered (and with the new bonus even more), because you can cloak all the time and warp here and there, basicly doing what a CO is doing 99% of the time ... providing warp in points and intel.
Warping in a bomber IS slow and it should be, as you are fitting BATTLESHIP weapons on it, that take a large portion of the "defences" and add a lot of mass.
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TauTut
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:09:00 -
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 Originally by: Raem Civrie
They're fine.
Amen.
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St Dragon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zaratol
I think it's time to change the Stealth Bombers. Warping takes about as long as a Battleship, And it also needs more speed. And the ability to warp cloaked SHOULD also be a part of it.
It is afterall a STEALTH Bomber.
I'd love to hear a DEV's opinion on this. Please discuss...
OKfirst i will put your post into points.....
Bombers are too slow
Cant warp while cloaked.
Ok to answer the first point well bombers are meant to be slow the reason i see for it being as slow as it is is because the thruster power has been diverted to the wepon systems enabling it to support cruise launchers, also cruise missiles are a lot heavier than heavy missiles.
For the second point sure i can see why you question this but giving them the covert ops bonus would be a huge advantage....perhaps too huge.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:16:00 -
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Traditionally bombers are sluggish and slow compared to their fighter style counterparts, as for the cloak you've gotta sacrifice some systems to be able to mount those heavy weapons onboard
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YodaDuke
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:19:00 -
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the reason they do not have the ability to cloak and warp :
They did but as mentioned they were overpowered because of it so it got removed not long after Exodus patch was released
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VantDre
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:26:00 -
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I agree with Zaratol,
Stealth bombers, should be
able to warp cloaked..
whats the point of calling
them a covert ship?
I like the new changes though.
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TauTut
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: VantDre
I agree with Zaratol,
Stealth bombers, should be
able to warp cloaked..
whats the point of calling
them a covert ship?
I like the new changes though.
It's the difference between stealth for the sake of recon and stealth for the sake of mugging. If you allowed cloaked warp movement for gangs of stealth bombers it would be an unbalanced game dynamic.
Players who like being undetectable and also like to mug helpless victims at little or no risk to themselves should go and become a rogue on a WoW pvp server.
-TT
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:42:00 -
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Make them shoot citadel torps! And give the manticore another launcher.
I'm not biased.
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Zaratol
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Posted - 2006.01.13 22:43:00 -
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Ok, so maybe they should be slow, and slow to warp. But they should atleast be able to warp cloaked. So what if they could be used as a warp in point. If you can fly a Stealth Bomber, you can also fly a covert ops.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2006.01.14 00:06:00 -
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Cloaking while warping...
1) Overpowered and unbalanced on a stealth bomber.
2) It would render Covert Ops obsolete.
3) If you want the best of both worlds, train for a Recon Cruiser... you'll actually come out ahead on firepower in most cases and have some other very powerful capabilities as well. Such an ability should, and does, have a high price in training... as it should.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.14 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: YodaDuke
the reason they do not have the ability to cloak and warp :
They did but as mentioned they were overpowered because of it so it got removed not long after Exodus patch was released
Huh?
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Callistus
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Posted - 2006.01.14 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: YodaDuke
the reason they do not have the ability to cloak and warp :
They did but as mentioned they were overpowered because of it so it got removed not long after Exodus patch was released
Huh?
Eh?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.14 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Callistus
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: YodaDuke
the reason they do not have the ability to cloak and warp :
They did but as mentioned they were overpowered because of it so it got removed not long after Exodus patch was released
Huh?
Eh?
que ?
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Siigari Kitawa
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Posted - 2006.01.14 01:39:00 -
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Posting in thread that was previously never read.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.14 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: ErrorS on 14/01/2006 02:00:10
cruise missiles not doing any damage after you cloak, they need to fix that. That would make these ships halfway decent
i don't know why and i don't care why. It would make the ships a challenge but what BB doesn't consider an interceptor a problem? what cruiser doesn't consider an AF a problem?
I'd love it.. these ships sitting 100km out in a fleet battle. Firing, cloaking, firing, cloaking, firing, cloaking.. not so much damage but enough that they would be a major annoyance to cruisers and battleships. The ships will easily be defended against, sensor boosters? It takes 5 seconds as is to recloak in a bomber, that's morte than enough time for a BS with a couple sensor boosters. Hell, even other bombers would be good against them.
whatever, it's too 'common sense' I guess?
oooh i know i know.. stealth? GIve them a stupidly low sig radius? lower than an interceptor? Hard to hit, hard to lock.. doesn't that sound like something stealth? At least, the way Eve works it's about as close as you're going to get.
Comparing to modern stealth bombers.. not that they're anything like that.. but the end result would be pretty close.
the first proposed change makes them more like subs (i'd prefer this)
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