So, secure your needs for Plexes now, before the price goes up even more

Buy Buy BUY!

I'm interested as well in the statement by Tippia about proof of manipulation. I've no doubt CCP manipulates prices but, I am curious to see discussions on the topic.

I play EVE in the sense I log on and adjust my ques maybe fool around trading, that's about it.

Local chat makes the game a dull campfest be it gate or station and wormholes are too much of a logistics pain to be a cure for the ailment.

I have no problem admitting I pay to play a bad game. I hope eventually CCP will see the light, EVE has promise, but as it stands its a big pile of mediocre poo and the guys remarks about plex and paying for a bad game are spot on.

The notion school does this or that I believe is off base. Most people in school aren't dropping cash for plex. Adults with free income to do so, do. The school kids want to play free and when they go back to school the demand should drop if the theory were grounded. It doesn't and i'd wager it won't. My reasoning is partly due to what the post I defended suggested that more and more are not wanting to pay for EVE because the enjoyment factor requires hours to produce minutes of fun and the people who are original buyers/sellers of plex are finding less and less reason to continue buying more. A few billion of ISK is all youll really need in highsec where most play as there is a upward ship size you can use and with the protection of local nowhere near enough death occurs to give the demand ISK should have.

Nullsec as a lifestyle requires something that plex can not buy nor can a bigger ship impart. Numbers. Since there is no worthwhile reason to go through the hassle of getting those numbers (you'd need quite a few to compete with null power blocs) Highsec is where most end up and will remain.

War is a waste of ISK. War is essential for a healthy highsec. High sec rots. The supply of plex dwindles while the demand peaks . The demand isn't peaking because of high numbers, its peaking because more and more refuse to pay for the few hours of enjoyment they actually get out of EVE.

winter is coming

It seems that PLEX might hit the 600 million mark sometime soon and I am thoughtful to why this is happening now.

EVE population is down because of the return to school so one would think there would be less isk generation to buy PLEX which would entail the price should go down (but its not).

However, could it mean that students are more likely spend money on PLEX to sell on the market?

And that without them, there is less to go around.

Certainly its not really inflation because mineral prices are still at a year low.

So what do you think is cauing the upward price movement?

People are starting to actually use that new feature: "dual character training".
Altocholism is what drives this game going. I really wish to see some data from CCP if I'm right.

PLEX price will keep increasing due to people not wanting to pay for EVE as it is such a bad game. This will increase PLEX demand and reduce PLEX supply. And the rate of increase will increase exponentially.

I blame Incursions....
Was that last time prices was high

lets be honest, plex is undervalued, 500 million you can do pretty fast in the game, and a lot of people grind it easy

plex will hit over a billion soon, the correct price would be around 1,5 billion for what you get

This.
although personally my spare char slots are getting close to having their skills as i want them and i will then stop spending plex on dual account training. These extra account slot chars will have skillsets that will be useful for as long as i play the game even after i stop spending isk on them and so are well worth the price paid now. i imagine i am far from unique in this and in 2-3 months people like me will have stopped doing this entirely.

I think you're quite mistaken. CCP has no vested interest in how high minerals go. It doesn't really affect them. Crashing the plex market means the people who give them real cash no longer do. Your minerals, their cashflow. Yeah....

Mining is easy to do. It will always have a surplus of people botting it to pay for whatever portion of their plex they can. Plainly put mineral demand and supply will never affect the supply and demand of plex in the context you imply...

Dr.EyjoG also provided CSM with a report on PLEX intervention(s) made by the EVE Central Bank since the last CSM Summit. The major intervention was related to a PLEX price spike triggered by a large FW payout, and PLEX prices have remained stable since that time. The CSM was satisfied that the ECB had acted appropriately and in line with the procedures previously described. Dr.EyjoG noted that he hopes to have a devblog out in January that discusses this topic in more detail.

Of course CCP cares if Battleships start to cost 500m, because players WILL quit over that.

CCP appears to want a relatively stable plex market. This was in last year's CSM minutes:



Check this thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194473

[CCP] temporarily increased supply to stifle the price increase...Whether or not I ISK sell the plex for 1 isk or 1 trillion isk doesn't matter one bit

Let me clarify. People in large numbers want to play for free. CCP used extra resources (locked plex) and threw them a bone. Those resources are finite. It can not be done indefinitely. I doubt there was serious number of plex locked to begin with. There certainly isn't an infinite amount.

CCP has no target for plex prices aside from plex being at a ISK value that will motivate the ISK sellers to purchase them.

I say CCP has no target for plex prices because they are no longer the owner of the plex. They have sold the plex. Therefore they can not have a target price for the owner to sell at.

And at the risk of coming off as condescending as the owner of those purchased plex I don't care one iota whether joe average can play free or not or even at all. It's not my concern. My only concern when I purchase plex for resale is that I receive as absolutely much ISK for each as the market will allow.
If I see the price of plex plummeting I assure you investing in plex is not something i'm going to do. And I think you'll find that a truth with anyone buying plex for resale. That's business.

That makes sense.

But why couldn't CCP seed more plex? Total plex numbers are currently decreasing due to destruction in ship ganks (I assume plex are actually destroyed if they don't drop) so eventually there will be no plex left. This is clearly reductio ad absurdum but you get the point.

But why couldn't CCP seed more plex?

Because seeding PLEXes would mean letting players play for free.

In fact saying GÇ£seed moreGÇ¥ means you go wrong from the very start, since they never seeded any to begin with. All the PLEX they re-circulate onto the markets are ones that players have already paid for, but which were never activated before CCP confiscated them.

Incursions are just the most recent method creating bounce in players steps by introducing lucrative new things to do.

PLEX prices almost certainly will double in isk value every 3 to 4 years


detailed explanation of my reasoning for any that care below:

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