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Timothia
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:39:00 -
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The title kind of says it all really. Does anyone know how many years eve online will continue to exist?
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:43:00 -
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Best guess, a few more
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:44:00 -
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I'm about 20. If my grandchildren can't play Eve, I will be so ****ed...
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:45:00 -
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I would say at least another 3
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Teblin
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:47:00 -
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 Originally by: ParMizaN
I would say at least another 3
If I'm still moderating then, will I be as insane as Wrangler? 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.01.14 15:49:00 -
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Probably more so unless you get some protection too.
WarpDriveActive had a few nice offers. 
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:02:00 -
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by the sheer limitations of the engine and systems its built upon and looking at the turn over of other mmo's bout 3-4 years
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:05:00 -
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i think we will be here in 2010 still
Originally by: Eris Discordia
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:08:00 -
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My guess would be like this:
Continue to rise until Kali and about 6 months - 1 year after that, then 1-2 more years of steady population and then will start decreasing. In about 5 years TQ will prolly have 10-15k at peak hours (90% veterans). But in about 5 years we will probably beta-test Eve 2 or "some CCP MMO secret project"
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
by the sheer limitations of the engine and systems its built upon and looking at the turn over of other mmo's bout 3-4 years
Except that eve is constantly evolving. They wouldn't be afraid to do a total code rewrite if they had to. They've done it in the past (though not before the game went live).
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Khatred
My guess would be like this:
Continue to rise until Kali and about 6 months - 1 year after that, then 1-2 more years of steady population and then will start decreasing. In about 5 years TQ will prolly have 10-15k at peak hours (90% veterans). But in about 5 years we will probably beta-test Eve 2 or "some CCP MMO secret project"
"Runescape will only last a few more years.". 5 years on, it's going strong. It has seen a steady increase in the number of players. Everquest 1 is still going, for what that's worth. Steady server population.
I wouldn't count eve out after 5 years.
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:16:00 -
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I never said Eve will be out, just that like all the other old and older MMOs out there, at some point will get to a steady numbers of "core" players.
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Skyraker7
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:21:00 -
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I still hoy Elite up on an emulator now and again... but it's just not the same 8(
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Lauriers
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:22:00 -
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not long if this lag isn't sorted out, may put account on hold for a few months as it's unplayable most of the time now
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 14/01/2006 16:23:43
Originally by: Khatred
I never said Eve will be out, just that like all the other old and older MMOs out there, at some point will get to a steady numbers of "core" players.
That's true but CCP are doing a good job attracting new players too. You're probably right about the core remaining but 5 years is an incredibly conservative estimate and assumes that they just sit around and let the game take care of themselves. They don't, they try to actively keep the game interesting.
Besides, I want to pod my grandchildren.
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Brolly
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:23:00 -
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A game like eve can keep going indeffinately as far as I can see, I would like eve to go on for another decade, if not, I hope they release it as abandonware so we can keep on playing until we pop our clogs
I'm sure CCP would like to do more in life than just eve, shame really
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:26:00 -
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Pann said before that it id would probably have a 7 yr shelf life, but I can see it go past that.
The graphics engine is not so important in this game as in others as eve is mostly strategy.
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Hehulk
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Pann said before that it id would probably have a 7 yr shelf life, but I can see it go past that.
The graphics engine is not so important in this game as in others as eve is mostly strategy.
Very true, but I'm suer I remeber hearing after last years fan fest that they were planing a major overhaul to the graphics engine.
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Sabe
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Posted - 2006.01.14 16:59:00 -
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Maybe 3 - 5 years at best, soon as someone come out with a similar game but actualy hires real developers instead of fat beer guzzling wannabe's.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:02:00 -
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2012 at earliest. Imo.
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Sirkill
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:29:00 -
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Well eve is constently evolving and so we really have to define what is eve.
Is eve the current basic server and and client software?
nah, you could scrap that in its enitrety and build a completly new engine, while still retaining exactly the same gameplay, just means you have to redo every single feature.
Is eve the current game mechanics?
not realy, while if the current game mechanics were completely changed all at once, to say make it into ENB on the eve engine eve would have died, the mechanics and gameplay are steadiley evolving and may end up completely different to what we have now but still be eve.
Is eve the current persistence of the gameworld?
By this I mean that something you did at any time since the start of eve, has the potential to effect you through the game machanics. Basically I consider eve, eve so long as we use our present characters and items without this rolling back or reseting.
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Eldo Davip
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Posted - 2006.01.14 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Teblin
Originally by: ParMizaN
I would say at least another 3
If I'm still moderating then, will I be as insane as Wrangler?
Nah no one can reach those peaks.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:36:00 -
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Tenacha is right the graphics do the job now why would we need better.
Every time CCP say Soon(tm) another 6 months is added to its life span.
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:39:00 -
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I would think that the game will evolve a lot more over the next few years, maybe the graphics will be overhauled *hint hint*.
Anyhooo, we probably won't recognise EVE in a couple of years when comparing it to todays game. Especially with plant landings etc.... 
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Irias Salo
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Edited by: Nyphur on 14/01/2006 16:23:43
Besides, I want to pod my grandchildren.
That is plain evil.
Anyway I hope eve never dies, I plan on playing till the day I die (then maybe if I can get a connection in the afterlife as well).
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.14 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
2012 at earliest. Imo.
Wasn't 2012 mentioned sometime as when they had the story planned out to?
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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My grandfather
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Posted - 2006.01.14 19:03:00 -
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eve has the most loyal playerbase of all the MMO's in existance. And that playerbase so far keeps on growing and growing. As long as ccp keep up the good work and regular updates, this game could go strong for years and years to come. As long as there is something new to discover, the game will continue to exist.
Originally by: Imaran
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Saeris Tal'Urduar
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Posted - 2006.01.14 19:06:00 -
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I sure I seen somewhere the devs had a good 7 years of content.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: The Enslaver
2012 at earliest. Imo.
Wasn't 2012 mentioned sometime as when they had the story planned out to?
I believe so.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: The Enslaver
2012 at earliest. Imo.
Wasn't 2012 mentioned sometime as when they had the story planned out to?
I believe so.
Oh good, I wasn't plucking a figure out of thin air then :)
Wait it a dev chat? Hm...
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:37:00 -
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I can see EVE lasting at least to 2015.
The devs did like 3 total code rewrites during beta, and have totally rewritten most of EVE's code in one way or another over the course of the past 3 years.
If something needs updating, they can update it.
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Zaakary
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:39:00 -
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Quote:
How long will eve be around for?
Until she eats the forbiden fruit. 
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:41:00 -
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You really can't say. In one patch a MMO can go from low to a population boom (as EVE did), but the exact opposite can happen. And it can happen a lot quicker, too - after all, it's a hell of a lot easier to screw something up than it is to make it better.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.16 00:43:00 -
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1 more year because SOE really loves EvE.  
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Gothikia
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Posted - 2006.01.16 01:04:00 -
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EVE will last for another 3-4 years before CCP starts to make a financial loss on it, then I think they'll either start from scratch on it and create "EVE: The Real Second Genesis.
2010/2011 is when TQ will probably be closed, i hope not tho. :) *thinks about all the fuzzy times in EVE*
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.16 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gothikia
EVE will last for another 3-4 years before CCP starts to make a financial loss on it, then I think they'll either start from scratch on it and create "EVE: The Real Second Genesis.
2010/2011 is when TQ will probably be closed, i hope not tho. :) *thinks about all the fuzzy times in EVE*
Hmmm... maybe we can buy over EvE and make it Open-source and a fan-based MMO.
*methinks of how to be rich now...*
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PMolkenthin
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Posted - 2006.01.16 01:12:00 -
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If they have to lay EVE to rest for whatever reasons, it would be nice if a sequal was made, and to be able to transfer (to some degree) our characters/skills/assets/ISK.
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Darlan Flame
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Posted - 2006.01.16 01:20:00 -
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FYI, people still play Everquest. Don't be too quick to guess how much longer EVE is going to be around.
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Niffo
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Posted - 2006.01.16 01:28:00 -
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It's going to be around for a long time, especially when you consider that it is growing whereas most MMO's are declining in subscription numbers.
As for upgrading graphics ... ummmm .... sorry but this game has the best graphics IMO of any MMO out on the market today - don't need to fix something that isn't broken, because with most MMO's that I have played, graphic overhauls tend to make things much worse than better.
But this thread is kinda scary ... at least for people looking into the game. It kind of makes it look like the game is on the verge of dying or something!
/votes to nuke it
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Summersnow
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:25:00 -
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if eve can survive the next 6 months it will most likely continue for many years.
If on the other hand ccp can't solve the lag issues it'll drop back down to a niche game with 3-4K subscribers.
Since that would happen after ccp makes a huge financial investment on new hardware that could bankrupt them if there subscriber base implodes like that.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 16/01/2006 13:31:16
Originally by: Summersnow
if eve can survive the next 6 months it will most likely continue for many years.
If on the other hand ccp can't solve the lag issues it'll drop back down to a niche game with 3-4K subscribers.
Since that would happen after ccp makes a huge financial investment on new hardware that could bankrupt them if there subscriber base implodes like that.
You don't loose, 80.000 subscribers because of a little lag. And it's still a niche game, the niche is growing, but it's far from being a general public MMOG.
Originally by: Teblin
Originally by: ParMizaN
I would say at least another 3
If I'm still moderating then, will I be as insane as Wrangler?
Since he'll in all likelyhood will still be around as well, I doubt you'll catch up to him. Especially considering the size of the headstart he's got...
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Darwinia
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:33:00 -
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I only see EVE ending if CCP decides to release a NGE type update...
Otherwise I'm with DS.. 2015, then looking at EVE 2 with planetary building and 3rd person view gameplay.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:35:00 -
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imho the main difference between the standard mmo out there and eve is the needed hardware ... many other games don't need such sophisticated servers than eve does ...
eve will be as long around there, as ccp can afford to maintain such a server ...
hopefully this will mean: many many years 
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.01.16 13:39:00 -
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I just hope the market wont become like the one in Anarchy online.
where everything costs 4235987435984365 credits.
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Ranger 1
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Posted - 2006.01.16 14:48:00 -
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Besides, I want to pod my grandchildren.
QFT
Now this is a worthy goal.
I've already had the honor of podding my best friend.
I've already had the honor of podding my son.
I've already had the honor of podding my wife...
(In retrospect, the latter may have been a bad idea...)
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Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.01.16 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Teblin
Originally by: ParMizaN
I would say at least another 3
If I'm still moderating then, will I be as insane as Wrangler?
No, you will be worse! Wrangler will perform evil hoodoo acts while you're alseep and one day you will awaken and wonder why you have a third leg protruding from your forehead ;)
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Failin Zhar
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Posted - 2006.01.16 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
1 more year because SOE really loves EvE.
Please, dear God, say that SOE has NOT expressed any interest in EVE?! Everything SOE touches turns into liquid ***** dotted with the occasional floating purple spot. I guess that's disgusting.
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Posted - 2006.01.16 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rowen Quasar on 16/01/2006 14:59:09
Originally by: Failin Zhar
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
1 more year because SOE really loves EvE.
Please, dear God, say that SOE has NOT expressed any interest in EVE?! Everything SOE touches turns into liquid ***** dotted with the occasional floating purple spot. I guess that's disgusting.
SOE?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rowen Quasar
Edited by: Rowen Quasar on 16/01/2006 14:59:09
Originally by: Failin Zhar
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
1 more year because SOE really loves EvE.
Please, dear God, say that SOE has NOT expressed any interest in EVE?! Everything SOE touches turns into liquid ***** dotted with the occasional floating purple spot. I guess that's disgusting.
SOE?
Sony Online Entertainment.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Failin Zhar
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
1 more year because SOE really loves EvE.
Please, dear God, say that SOE has NOT expressed any interest in EVE?! Everything SOE touches turns into liquid ***** dotted with the occasional floating purple spot. I guess that's disgusting.
Fall of SWG has. EvE is where players come. Only one strong space MMO remains. Smedley sees EvE. Threat EvE is. Money pot EvE will be. Buy SOE must.
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Spit
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:09:00 -
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But it this way, if eve is around for another 10 years, I'll miss my son growing up :p
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: The Enslaver
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: The Enslaver
2012 at earliest. Imo.
Wasn't 2012 mentioned sometime as when they had the story planned out to?
I believe so.
Well in that case we'll be here until at least 2013.
After all, there's been precious little advancement to the story lately.
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Tony Fats
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:30:00 -
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I give it about 2 years before becoming watered down to appease carebears.
Some would say its already too watered down.
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Teles666
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:35:00 -
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At least ten years along the path it is going, we'll probably see Jove space opened up in about 3 years, 5 at the most.
The only thing that will break it is another game coming out that does it better.
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:49:00 -
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Since EVE's content is based upon player interaction, I can see it still being interesting as long as only two players play. As more and more people join, there are more and more opportunities to have fun. The only issue I can see is the need for better and better hardware. Unlike other MMOs, EVE's need to log in all players into the same world means that the hardware must grow at the same rate as the players. Instead of enforcing an artificial limit on the number of players per shard, CCP must scale the hardware to match the game's popularity. Unfortunately, EVE's player count is approaching an exponential increase curve, which means CCP will have to increase their server power exponentially. Will we see them purchasing Itanium processors in a year or two?
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Xio2
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:09:00 -
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I would play Eve 2 only if my skills rolled over. lol. who am i kidding? lol i'd play it anyway.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gariuys
Edited by: Gariuys on 16/01/2006 13:31:16
Originally by: Summersnow
if eve can survive the next 6 months it will most likely continue for many years.
If on the other hand ccp can't solve the lag issues it'll drop back down to a niche game with 3-4K subscribers.
Since that would happen after ccp makes a huge financial investment on new hardware that could bankrupt them if there subscriber base implodes like that.
You don't loose, 80.000 subscribers because of a little lag. And it's still a niche game, the niche is growing, but it's far from being a general public MMOG.
Originally by: Teblin
Originally by: ParMizaN
I would say at least another 3
If I'm still moderating then, will I be as insane as Wrangler?
Since he'll in all likelyhood will still be around as well, I doubt you'll catch up to him. Especially considering the size of the headstart he's got...
The word niche is such a cliche. Everything is a niche, since it is based around a subjective subject. IE, what is niche to you isn't niche to me. What is niche to me isn't niche to you. We can share the same niche. I think English majors wanted to sound smart when this word was adopted into the dictionary. The only solid definition this word has is the ***** in the rock definition which the ecology definition is based on. However, niche is an illogical word since everything is a niche as long as one person finds it fun.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Mira deVorsha
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Mira deVorsha on 16/01/2006 16:34:49
Its an easy answer.
For as long as it generates good revenue. Easy to answer because just look at other MMORPG.
Ultima online - Still going strong.
Asherons Call 2 - Closed up shop just recently.
Funny enough Customers does not equate to revenue. For example if you have too many customers then it puts a hit on your hardware/software guys to ensure everything is working and kept up to date.
Where as a low population means less to do.
A happy middle is what keeps you alive.
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