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Ace Li
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:40:00 -
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Been playing for a while now, but still very much noob.
I made a thread asking about SBs but I figure it'd be more appropriate for a noob like me to ask around what's out there.
I am of Caldari race, mainly trained in missile skills (I don't have much skills lol).
I've done some level 2 security quests and some high-sec ratting but it's really getting respective and Ian losing interest.
I would like to experience some hardcore PvP in Eve Online and I've been wondering what sort of PvP-gameplay the game has to offer.
I've read various guides on WH, incursions, FW and solo ganking but I just don't know with certainty what exactly I should be doing.
I like to blow s@&$% up (preferably players) and I like to make money lol.
What are my options and what should I flying??? |
Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:51:00 -
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The standard answer for unexperimented pilots willing to try pvp : contact RvB.
http://rvbeve.com/forums/index.php/forum/3-rvb-information-news-rules/
Have fun :) |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:54:00 -
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RvB might be a good place to start to get some PVP experience, but no matter what i would suggest that you look into joining a player corp that can help you learn.
Start out in t1 frigs and as you get more comfortable and get a higher ISK income you can move onto using bigger ships.
Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread
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Riel Saigo
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
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Posted - 2013.09.20 21:57:00 -
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Mainly, what it sounds like you need is a group to do things with.
Brave Newbies is a corp that focuses on recruiting brand new players and taking them out into the galaxy to try new stuff. They're a disorganized mess. But you'll probably get exposed to a lot of different things and meet a lot of people. From what people say about them, there will always be someone online ready to go try stuff with.
Faction Warfare is usually what most people recommend to start trying out PvP for the first time. Equip a few combat frigates and start hunting for a good FW corp. |
Sunshyn LaBlond
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.09.21 15:02:00 -
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Flying with others is the key to making Eve fun. Playing alone, Eve is little better than any MMO with their dull and repetitive PvE. But Eve really comes alive when you bring in friends.
I say it all the time on the forums (usually from my main)---- FLY AN INTERDICTOR and there are very few null sec alliances that won't happily have you. That one ship, easily trained by new players, is the single most essential ship to null sec warfare in the game. All the shiny battleships in the world won't undock until someone re-ships to a lowly Dictor.
If you flew nothing else in PvP, no one would complain. Virtually any null alliance worth it's salt will simply give you Dictors to fly.
They are perfect to learn PvP. You generally act as a +1 scout- taking point for your fleet, working the D-Scan, calling out intel and working independently from the main body and FC commands, manually piloting around-- all experience that will serve you throughout your time in Eve.
The Dictor is the easiest first step to making PvP your 'career' in Eve. You don't have to worry much about training up for a specific 'doctrine' as the Dbl Bbl Sabre is used almost universally. Shield, armor, small gang, big fleet-- you WILL find a Sabre or two at least, and offering to bring another will never be turned down.
It is also an excellent ship for learning fleet roles and combat mechanics while being not only important, but critical to any fleet. Certainly no throw away tackle job for the 'new guy' but absolutely essential to mission success. When people say a newb can be every bit as important as some 100mil SP toon, this is what they mean.
Train for the Dictor, apply to a null sec corp and start by flying those. Very quickly you'll learn the ropes and have a good idea what direction to go in next. Tackle is a deeply rewarding role- eventually you will hold point on capital ships single-handedly with a HIC, anchor drag bubbles and set up ambushes. Or find another role you enjoy. But I can't suggest enough training up to fly a Dictor if you want to make PvP into your job within Eve. |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:26:00 -
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don't try out pvp and especially don't try out FW PVP in this game is pretty much a shame.
As Caldari and missiles you'll be blessed with bad damage compared to everyone else so all they have to do is fly close to you and your dead because they can put out so much more damage with their tech 2 blasters. The rest of the time we're struggling with their kiting ships outside the range of our high damage rocket range or being MWD scrambled in our kiting ships by ships standing at the gate with a warp scrambler and blasters.
In other words as Caldari we're dead in frigate pvp unless we're in a blob and whats the fun in that? |
Cara Forelli
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.21 19:54:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:don't try out pvp and especially don't try out FW PVP in this game is pretty much a shame.
Ignore this, Paul has adamantly refused to actually join FW, so he wouldn't know.
He is right that you will have lower damage with missiles, but you make up for it by having a light fast ship that can speed tank well. This takes a lot of practice. It's actually much harder than fighting in larger ships because one mistake will ruin you. Expect to lose a lot of ships when you first start out, no matter which group you decide to join.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:23:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:. It's actually much harder than fighting in larger ships because one mistake will ruin you. Expect .
While in a frigate what ever you do you will explode. |
Raymond Bartlette
Calypso Thumblers
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Posted - 2013.09.21 20:43:00 -
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You can always join a small friendly pirate corp, not need to have many skill points, buy a stack of frigs fly with corpmates and do explosions, simple and you'll have lot of fun. Eve its just a game and you should have good fun with it, and not worry about lots of things around.
Calypso Thumblers official recruitment thread |
Tyrton
Imbecile MIiss Managment and Disasters
Intergalactic Interstellar Interns
50
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Posted - 2013.09.22 00:22:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:. It's actually much harder than fighting in larger ships because one mistake will ruin you. Expect . While in a frigate what ever you do you will explode.
No i am not even going to try Paul you win ... caldari frigates are the worst ad missiles to it and they are the lowest of the lows .
PS: If you are a new player ... Paul's few months of play has granted him immense experience in eve online.  |
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Veritaal
Koshaku
Gentlemen's Agreement
9
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Posted - 2013.09.22 03:18:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:. It's actually much harder than fighting in larger ships because one mistake will ruin you. Expect . While in a frigate what ever you do you will explode.
Just because that's all YOU ever do while in a frigate, dosen't mean that applies to everyone.
Frigates, regardless of race, are probably the most universally effective hulls in the game. |
cpt Varox
Victrix Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.09.23 07:05:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:don't try out pvp and especially don't try out FW PVP in this game is pretty much a shame.
As Caldari and missiles you'll be blessed with bad damage compared to everyone else so all they have to do is fly close to you and your dead because they can put out so much more damage with their tech 2 blasters. The rest of the time we're struggling with their kiting ships outside the range of our high damage rocket range or being MWD scrambled in our kiting ships by ships standing at the gate with a warp scrambler and blasters.
In other words as Caldari we're dead in frigate pvp unless we're in a blob and whats the fun in that?
Ignore paul the troll , a quick search will show his posts and disimal skill in this game. He is what we call a victim, prey, cannon fodder and a perpetual crybaby |
lollerwaffle
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
98
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Posted - 2013.09.23 10:37:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:don't try out pvp and especially don't try out FW PVP in this game is pretty much a shame.
As Caldari and missiles you'll be blessed with bad damage compared to everyone else so all they have to do is fly close to you and your dead because they can put out so much more damage with their tech 2 blasters. The rest of the time we're struggling with their kiting ships outside the range of our high damage rocket range or being MWD scrambled in our kiting ships by ships standing at the gate with a warp scrambler and blasters.
In other words as Caldari we're dead in frigate pvp unless we're in a blob and whats the fun in that?
I'm convinced. Paul Otichoda is most definitely a troll on these forums. Hard to believe that one single player could be stuck in the same mindset after so long and so many advice and tips thrown at him.
Reported for trolling newbie section. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.09.23 18:18:00 -
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Ace Li wrote:
I am of Caldari race, mainly trained in missile skills (I don't have much skills lol).
If I were a noob, I would add some Gallente frig ranks and get into a worm. Great mission and PVP boat and not really expensive compared to the other faction pirate ships. For the SP you need to put into them they are much better than training T2 frigs.
Also it opens the door to progress into my current favorite all-round ship, the Rattlesnake
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Ace Li
League of Angered Gentlemen
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:33:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies! helps me alot!
and thanks for pointing out whos trolling around with false info haha 
sounds like i need to just blow up alot of frigates and nose around in FW areas for the time being...
I've found a decent FW corp and I've based my self at on a 0.4 starbase where my corp operates around.
-but that would lead to my next, equivalently serious problem at hand. Which would be ISK!
at the moment, I almost have no means of ISK income aside from L2 security missions or lower, high-sec rat bounties, and high-sec venture mining (venture = little to no skills in mining)
whats a noob to do for some stable ISK?
not even asking for much, just enough to finance my future frigates that'll just explode lol
PS: should this (isk making) be on a diff thread?  |
Cara Forelli
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2013.09.24 18:37:00 -
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Most FW pilots are able to finance their frigates by running FW plexes. It's the reason faction warfare is often recommended to people who are new, poor, and want to try out PvP without a big ISK burden.
www.ensignyooch.wordpress.com |
Bastion Arzi
Dat Tax
35
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Posted - 2013.09.25 16:18:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:don't try out pvp and especially don't try out FW PVP in this game is pretty much a shame.
As Caldari and missiles you'll be blessed with bad damage compared to everyone else so all they have to do is fly close to you and your dead because they can put out so much more damage with their tech 2 blasters. The rest of the time we're struggling with their kiting ships outside the range of our high damage rocket range or being MWD scrambled in our kiting ships by ships standing at the gate with a warp scrambler and blasters.
In other words as Caldari we're dead in frigate pvp unless we're in a blob and whats the fun in that?
paul didnt you get your corp wardecced for saying things like this? |
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