Do we really need to improve on the Ishtar/Dominix with 800 DPS out to 90+km optimal?

Do we really need to improve on the Ishtar/Dominix with 800 DPS out to 90+km optimal?

Yes please, my Rattlesnake doesn't do enough damage yet. I want to break 1K DPS with just drones.

Yes please, my Rattlesnake doesn't do enough damage yet. I want to break 1K DPS with just drones.

Do we really need to improve on the Ishtar/Dominix with 800 DPS out to 90+km optimal?

I for one would like to see CCP address this, what say you ?

Guns with a faction damage mod atm only do ~2% more DPS than than guns with a T2 damage mod.

Thus, I don't think faction drone damage mods should result in much DPS incrase for drone boats - maybe about 6% when using 3 of them.

Or, we can look at other faction mods as a guide:
does a Fed navy/Serpentis EANM give better resists? No, but Amarr/Ammatar/Khanid do

I'd add Amar rnavy drone damage mods -> same damage as T2 mods, but lower fittings.

Then I'd add Fed navy drone damage mods -> to get your drones 2% more DPS compared to T2s.
Maybe the same for shadow serpentis - while rebalancing angel and serpentis (serpentis is more "gallente" than angel, so I'd swap the drone bays of the draml and dare, the cyna and vigi, and the mach and vindi)


Also.. can we stop with the T1 meta 0 drops of drones.... and start some meta 1-4 drone drops :) ?

We definitely should have faction drone mods and drone implants.

They should be an immediate concern, they should be done right after reviewing

1. The drone UI
2. The drone mechanics, including assignments
3. The drone base numbers
4. The drone boat bonuses
5. All ships' bay sizes and bandwidth
6. The T1/T2 drone mods

This. The big things first before campaigning for a module that gives 5% more damage.

My vote, kill all birds with one stone... Drone theme expansion for summer.

Do we really need to improve on the Ishtar/Dominix with 800 DPS out to 90+km optimal?

Need to work on those skills, with 4 X DDA's you get 850 DPS from garde's on a domi or RS. Don't fly an ishtar so can't say but pretty sure it will be the same.

I have full drone skills and I get 800. I don't however have any guns active or any officer modules on EFT by accident.
Note that 800 is an awesome figure, and does not need improving anyway, but lets debate with the real figures.

You all seem to have left out a very important aspect.
Capital ships.
You can already get a group of heavies to do more dps than a group of fighters since the added the current mods.
Adding faction mods for drone damage would break cap ships.
Not that I'm against more dps from my gank carrier but......... The nerf hammer to follow would suck way worse than the current issues. I don't want to lose the ability to use these mods on my carrier.

Seems about right, 800ish what you can get to with drones. If your ship can use another weapon system on top of that though; it's happy times. It should be noted though; that this is with almost perfect skills. We're talking several months of training here.


Except that heavies are extremely slow, and fighters actually follow you through warp. For me, heavies do about the same damage as Gardes, with the difference it takes them ages to fly out 50km. I've not seen any data on this, so please if you have it link it here, but I've never seen Ogre IIs outdamage a flight of Einherjs.

Basically full gank fit with heavies or sentries nets like 1500 dps on a carrier. Fighters dont benefit from drone mods and top out at 1250 on a thanny.

I don't really think that 1 exceptional situation which can happen when you specifically fit 1 ship and attack 1 specific target from a certain angle with perfect conditions, should be a reason for not doing something.