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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:08:00 -
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i dont have access to an eve client, have hacs come down in price since red moon rising??
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Menelak Faf
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:09:00 -
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 Originally by: adam f
i dont have access to an eve client, have hacs come down in price since red moon rising??
No, more like doubled.
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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:11:00 -
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going price for a vagabond???
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:15:00 -
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Vagabond is 130m or so...
Its mainly due to insane demand. Everyone wants a HAC, so the prices go through the roof.
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Ruby StarFire
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:16:00 -
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Yep, Ihstar's and Diemos' cost about 160 mill a piece now...
Makes you wish you'd bought 20 of them when they were at 70 mill really don't it 
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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:18:00 -
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so they are still kick a$$ after the patch then ??
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: adam f
so they are still kick a$$ after the patch then ??
yes, and the cerb is a pwnmobile too now
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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:23:00 -
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how has the sig penalty on shield extenders effected the vagabond?? and also can someone check corp stats on hooligans of war and tell me how many ppl in corp?? i would like to know if my corp is still running.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Syrec on 15/01/2006 13:23:59
HAC prices skyrocket again. Not enough BPOs released.
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Uther Doull
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: adam f
can someone check corp stats on hooligans of war and tell me how many ppl in corp?? i would like to know if my corp is still running.
10 members
they are in the sudden death squad alliance
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:26:00 -
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Why did the demand for HACs go up after RMR is a mystery
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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:28:00 -
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thnks uther can u see if rustok or hyllex is online and get them on this thread
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zaldiri
Why did the demand for HACs go up after RMR is a mystery
Every "Commander" type person out there, who was flying Battlecruisers with warfare link mods up to this point is now training for Heavy Assaults as a pre for Command Ships.
Then there was the whole RAM shortage, which caused a lag in the production, which still hasn't caught up with demand yet aswell as NAGA being out of action for over 2 months due to a factory slot incident.
I can see HAC's going up ever more, people are rich enough to continue paying crazy prices for them.
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adam f
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:39:00 -
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wat was the factory slot incident ??? and why they out of action??
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:42:00 -
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My Cerb vs a domi, a rax, a maller and 1 (forgot what it was)... Took them several minutes to take me down  (they had me scrambled btw, incase ur wondering  )
I can't wait to get my hands on another Cerb again, but atm i'll stick to cara's i guess, wasn't too upset about losing it but i'm not about to pay 160 mill for another one hehe.
SO my concern atm is, any hopes on the prices of these things going down again? Man i do wish ccp would seed a few more of these things, i mean the number of players has doubled but it looks like the number of bpo's has remained the same or am i wrong?
Anyways, if u got one in hangar gathering dust, kit it out and use it, it would be a waste, and if u get blown up, well atleast i hope u had as much fun as i did
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2006.01.15 13:58:00 -
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Still the Eagle is crap by comparison, don't tell me otherwise, the sales indicates you being wrong even before you've chosen your opening word...
Remind me about The Maze.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:28:00 -
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BOB won the championships with an Eagle. Last part of the fight was an eagle against a Diemos and an Ishkur if i recall correctly and the eagle took them both.
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
BOB won the championships with an Eagle. Last part of the fight was an eagle against a Diemos and an Ishkur if i recall correctly and the eagle took them both.
but not everyone out there is BOB. |
fl0pski
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
BOB won the championships with an Eagle. Last part of the fight was an eagle against a Diemos and an Ishkur if i recall correctly and the eagle took them both.
not everybody here has devs and gm's as friends.
like a zealot winning from a vagabond and wolf.
unexplainable lag anyone?
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Payne Bringer
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS
BOB won the championships with an Eagle. Last part of the fight was an eagle against a Diemos and an Ishkur if i recall correctly and the eagle took them both.
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Right Eyeighty
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Posted - 2006.01.15 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Payne Bringer
Originally by: ErrorS
BOB won the championships with an Eagle. Last part of the fight was an eagle against a Diemos and an Ishkur if i recall correctly and the eagle took them both.
Not everyone has a full Crystal set of implants
Ah so that's teh secret?
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Sinari Galdrin
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Posted - 2006.01.15 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
Then there was the whole RAM shortage, which caused a lag in the production
There never was a RAM shortage. Just a potential one. Everywhere you looked there were lots of RAMs on sale. This was just a myth used by T2 producers to justify price hikes
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I can see HAC's going up ever more, people are rich enough to continue paying crazy prices for them.
Yep. The prices are what people will pay for them.
Really, what T2 producers should do is AUCTION them. An auction is the best way to determine a fair price - However, I expect they'd probably go for MORE than they do now if they were auctioned...
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.01.15 15:03:00 -
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why does a HAC cost more then a BS? doesnt a BS have more firepower, armor, and shields for less atm.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.15 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Filan
why does a HAC cost more then a BS? doesnt a BS have more firepower, armor, and shields for less atm.
It's also slower, less easily moved around, and oftenly held back in fleets untill the enemy BS have been found. While that hac may be out doing stiff all the time.
Ergo, HAC's are more fun to most people.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2006.01.15 15:12:00 -
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HAC prices will not go down until
1) demand goes down
2) supply goes up
the ram shortage gave the producers an excuse to raise the prices..and as people were paying the high prices...they will stay up.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:23:00 -
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For many T2 items the released number of prints is just fine, there are however a few of the prints that really need to have more BP's seeded.
Heavt assault cruisers is one of those BP types.
The reason for this is that they are firstly very popular ships of understandable reasons but more importantly it takes a very long time to build a single ship. As far as I know it takes over a day to build a single HAC meening if all BPO's are in full production less than 20 HAC's of each type will be built every day.
With an average number of players online of possibly 15000 I very much doubt 20 vagabonds per day will be enough to cover the demand.
The fact that not all prints can be resonably expected to be in 100% production and the fact that several BPO's are in alliance hands and that some of those alliances have policies not to sell outside of the alliance meens far fewer than 20 get out on the open market each day.
In addition to this the RAM running out did not help one bit.
As there now is an abundance in RAM I expect the prices to stabilize but I very much doubt the prices will drop anytime soon, the sellers have goten a taste of the higher prices and only a price war when there is a surplus of ships will bring them down again, hopefully that time will come but it will take time.
Especially since the number of players able to fly HAC's increases every day.
In short, the comunity could benefit very much from a few more HAC BPO's be entered into the lottery as well as a few other T2 BPO's that are in short supply.
I do however doubt that will happen.
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Filan
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:27:00 -
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500-1000 of each bpo would be perfect imo, when you figure how many subscribers there are now 1k or more even of each T2 wouldnt drasticly effect anything. considering even 1000 of them would only be 1/20 of the avg nighttime population.
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SghnDubh
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:27:00 -
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HACs...over-rated, over priced. Just like a hot new sportscar in RL, the HAC is an uber-pwnage-boat on paper. As I discuss combat results with corpmates, it seems that the king of the battlefield remains the Battleship. HACs can rule in 1:1 and small mixed fleet engagements, no question. But my unofficial and completely unscientific musings as a result of experience in 0.0 suggest you're still better off bringing something tougher to the field overall. Good fleets appear to be using HACs exactly as intended: As a large compliment to a combined-arms force. "HAC=Packs" for raiding, camping, or general pwnage are effective until faced off against the equal number of battleships...even though a HAC 1:1 to a BS can stand up with a skilled pilot in the pod. Comes down to sheer firepower, really. Sigh--this from a guy whose both paying characters specialise in HACs. Hmm...how far off am I from Dreadnought 5? :)
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:37:00 -
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Actually the best solution for the issue would be to revamp the R&D so that you can only get BPO's from dedicated R&D work (ie doing the daily mission for the R&D agent) and that the free daily RP bonus you get for simply having the agent researching giving you a chance to get a BPC of a T2 print.
This would allow the dedicated players to compete over the BPO's but their effort will have to be payed for in action.
As for the lazy "start the R&D and ignore the agent till he sends a message that he has had a breakthrough" type of players (of whom I am currently one), we would get BPC offers every once in a while that should be large enough to cover short term personal needs in the item offered.
An example offer could be a HAC BPC of 5 runs, enough to keep a single player with the HAC in question for a while but it would not be possible to get into production with it.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.15 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams
Actually the best solution for the issue would be to revamp the R&D so that you can only get BPO's from dedicated R&D work (ie doing the daily mission for the R&D agent) and that the free daily RP bonus you get for simply having the agent researching giving you a chance to get a BPC of a T2 print.
This would allow the dedicated players to compete over the BPO's but their effort will have to be payed for in action.
So only agent runners can get BPOs? 
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