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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.01.16 06:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Bubba Love
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4 is 4 whether it's sent from a mac or from a pc.
Actually no! 
A G5 Mac is big endian and when storing 4 as a 32-bit value in memory would be 00 00 00 04. A PC is little endian and would store the same number as 04 00 00 00. So when writing network code one should always 'twiddle' to network byte order or big endian. 
Of course with Intel Mac's the problems of byte ordering goes away.
Actually Ukucia hit the nail on the head - it's mostly a matter of libraries. A dual boot Apple Mac/Windows computer would be my ideal machine.
Listen to this man... G4 is bi-endian... G5 is not.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.01.16 07:02:00 -
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Buying a Mac is akin to buying "my first computer". its not a real computer.
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Posted - 2006.01.16 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Angel
Buying a Mac is akin to buying "my first computer". its not a real computer.
Ignorance is bliss...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.01.16 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Love
Quote:
4 is 4 whether it's sent from a mac or from a pc.
Actually no!
A G5 Mac is big endian and when storing 4 as a 32-bit value in memory would be 00 00 00 04. A PC is little endian and would store the same number as 04 00 00 00. So when writing network code one should always 'twiddle' to network byte order or big endian.
Of course with Intel Mac's the problems of byte ordering goes away.
When dealing with computers you always have to use a certain degree of simplification, explaining the differences in cpu registers isn't really necessary in this case imo 
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Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Angel
Buying a Mac is akin to buying "my first computer". its not a real computer.
Let's see
I do all my word processing on my Macs.
I keep my business accounting on my Macs.
I run my business database on my Macs.
I do all my web browsing on my Macs.
I design web sites for non-profit organizations I support on my Macs.
The core of my home entertainment system is a Mac.
I do a considerable amount of image editing in Photoshop on my Macs.
I send and receive e-mail on my Mac.
I play EVE on my Macs. No, wait, can't do that.
Seems those "not real" computers for neophytes do everything I need them to do and have for many years. Except run EVE.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:18:00 -
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Blizzard had WoW working for the G4 and G5, so for them most of the work was done by checking the "universal" compile option in XCode. Beyond that, their work was probably quite minimal.
That being said, I'd love to see a universal binary version of EVE. :) Would give me a reason to buy a new iMac.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.01.16 16:27:00 -
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MAC is like a Mercedes, its elegant, expensive, has leather and chrom all over but compared to a Toyota 4x4 pickup truck its utility value is pretty low.
If u can afford a MAC you can definetly also afford a PC if u need it
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Derran
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Posted - 2006.01.16 18:30:00 -
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I'd definitely give up my Windows laptop to play Eve on my iMac which I like better. Especially now that the new intel based ones are out and cheaper than they used to be.
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.16 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Derran
I'd definitely give up my Windows laptop to play Eve on my iMac which I like better. Especially now that the new intel based ones are out and cheaper than they used to be.
You mean the Intel-based Macs they never had before? Or the laptops that have not had their price lowered at all?
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super4lt
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Posted - 2006.01.16 18:52:00 -
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Mac users don't deserve EVE.
Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:05:00 -
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No matter wether there's Eve client around or not.. I'm going to buy a Macintosh around next summer and throw away the inferior other computers. I don't know what happens to Eve playing, perhaps I'll try with some emulator or something.
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Derran
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Derran on 16/01/2006 19:06:56
Originally by: Winterblink
You mean the Intel-based Macs they never had before? Or the laptops that have not had their price lowered at all?
That is not what I mean. I bought one of the original G5 iMacs. My G5 PowerPC iMac cost me $3200 when I bought it which was about 2 weeks after it came out. 6 months later they improved the design, included features that used to cost extra, and it cost $2100. A couple months after that they included a few more things and it was $2000. Now it is a bit cheaper with the new intel processors. And my laptop (XPS Gen2 - about 5 months old) cost me about the same as my original iMac did. So technically it is cheaper than most decent laptops are.
It is just that I prefer using the iMac more, especially speaking from someone who works on a corporate helpdesk doing windows tech support. It doesn't ask me if I am sure I want to do something fifty million times before will do what I told it to do. It doesn't have a stupid registry like windows. I can rebuild the machine faster than I can on my laptop. It just feels more efficient than my laptop does. And it also ran WoW better than my older, higher spec tower I used to have did.
If Eve could run on a Mac, my laptop would likely be shelved for awhile.
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ermenegildo Zenya
CCP are u looking into this matter? New iMac with introduction of Intel processors is closer to
PCs than ever, do u consider creating special version of eve-client for that superb machine?
Blizzard with WoW has lalready achieved this challenge - Will u be the next?
the hardware is NOT the issue, it is the OS.
CCP has said it a few million times...NO!!!
....now stop wasting forum space with silly "I want all the windows toys ported to linux " threads....
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ukucia
Edited by: Ukucia on 16/01/2006 01:19:55
A different processor really isn't that much of a porting issue. You just use a different compiler. (assuming same size pointers and other low-level details that are the same between x86 and the Mac version of the PPC)
The issue is the libraries that the software uses. The devs would have to re-write the graphics system to use OpenGL instead of DirectX, no matter what the processor is. Presumably there are also windows-specific constructs in their code, like Win32-style mutexes, that would have to be re-written.
This is also why there's no Eve for Linux-x86 (at least, no native version).
yep no Direct X no Party :/
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