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Neveren
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Posted - 2006.01.16 18:43:00 -
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deep in 0.0 there are asteroid belts that are completly off the warp in grid. Are these a bug? and can we petition to bring them back to there normal positions in a nice "U" Shape so i can mine easier? =)
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Soren
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:09:00 -
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Used to be able to mine afk there, but now npcs spawn 
Used to afk mine ark with an indy 
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:13:00 -
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Nope they are hidden belts and take a bit of time to find but the rocks are usually fat so dont complain go find those hidden rocks and *****em
Ive found some before with like 7k ark in them
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Neveren
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:38:00 -
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I can mine 7k bisto/crok/ark in no time. thus i want belts in a nice U shape so i can warp in.. strip highends... move on.. I can mine 100k crok/bisto/ark in a matter of an afternoon.. thus i dont have time to track down off the grid belts.
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boomBox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:06:00 -
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Hahah, this like your third topic on this.
You can't make enough as it is 0.0 mining?
Things are fine as they are. I'd prefer not to completely lag out in fleet battles then worry about how far you have to move your barge to mine.
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Orb Lati
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:47:00 -
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Why not ask that all the rocks are within 10 kms of the central point so you dont even have to move.
The secuirty advantages of off grid belts far out strips any disavantage to lazy miners.
I hope you also relize that the actions you have described as your typical mining practice will end up screwing up all your fellow corp and allaince members when they also need to make some cash mining. Ie by stripping all the high ends out of a belt you not only slow down thier respawn rate but also allow lower end rocks to take over by expanding into the respawn zone.
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Siigari Kitawa
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:49:00 -
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lol.
"in a nice U shape"
You're making more money off one of those rocks' LOADS than I make all week. Shut up.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 17/01/2006 00:26:25
The little U shaped belts were only supposed to be temporary when they first came out I thought. That was several years ago.
I think those rocks should seem to stretch in a line from one end of the grid to another given the perspective on such a small part of such a large ring.
If we could make the width of the bands a bit bigger so one could actually jet around with an interceptor, or even a cruiser inside of one, that would be pretty neat.
Is it possible to have objects that move (slowly sometimes, quickly others) from one side of a grid to the other, disappear and respawn at the other side again continuously? You could rig some really neat effects that way. Like homing rocks. Anything small enough that comes within range locks you and does an "approach target" into your engine's gravity well, destroying itself and damaging you.
On big rocks, I would like to bounce off and maintain 50% speed.
Keep working on those field effects too. Like local turret damping. Surely escaping into and through an asteroid field is a good thing. Something frigates do easilly, cruisers can manage, and battleships might risk.
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Neveren
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Posted - 2006.01.17 00:42:00 -
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ore doesnt respawn slower if you pop it.. Please stop believing any myths people have told you.
and yes im a lazy miner ... and yes i want nice U shaped belts so i can warp in.. kill a belt and move on without having to worry about waiting for a spawn to show up "off" the grid for me to tank while i mine.. *shrug*
and Ps.. There is nothing but 100% for the corp where i mine... so im not out to make a penny for myself.. tho it is nice
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2006.01.17 09:16:00 -
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Boo Hoo I want all the rocks nice and close to me so nobody else can get any... im only mining 800m a day waaahhhhhhhh
Please go choke to death
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.01.17 10:37:00 -
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Actually, the current rumour is that the amount of ore mined in one day is added to the next days respawn.
If that is true, then we need mission runners to run lvl4 vengence, clear it out and let them mine those super big scord and omber rocks which have 10's of thousands of units each at the last gate to increase the total supply of ore ingame.
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sonofollo
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Posted - 2006.01.17 11:06:00 -
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hmmm well system wide asteroid belts will change this factor with kali perhaps or the planetary expansion or even the 2007 jove expansion
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.01.17 13:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Soren
Used to be able to mine afk there, but now npcs spawn
Used to afk mine ark with an indy
Oh, now that's just COLD.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:01:00 -
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Why is it people come here and whine about lag or somthing combat related.. and its omg game breaking issue.. fix fix fix..
yet when i come here with a bug id like fixed for a carebear reason.. all of a sudden its completly wrong and boo hoo for me etc etc...
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:12:00 -
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Edited by: Chippie MS on 17/01/2006 16:14:35
Because its not a bug. Its adding a bit of skill to the mining IE having to actually look for things to mine and use the scanner. Its actually a nice feture cos carebears like yourself can sit at a hidden belt and not have "evil pirates" warp in and **** your barge in seconds
You have to way up the pros and cons bascially if you wanna risk getting blown up by pirate ignore the hidden belts and *****the main part if you want a bit of extra security and at least get some time to run then put in the effort and find them... also in a lot of systems that are used by roid rapers like yourself they are the best place for the casual gamer to be able to do some mining without having to go to 10 different fields and mine 500 from each rock..... theu can spend 10mins finding the hiddens that a lot of time have 7k in them and make a nice bit of cash... thats what 8 cans worth so about 150m?? not bad for an hours mining and a few hauls
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:18:00 -
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there is no such thing as a pirate in my part of 0.0 2nd. Id know 20 jumps before you got close to me.
THUS I want huge belts.. nicly packed into there original position so i can carebear..
there is no skill in mining.. I know where every asteroid is within my 3 systems of mining. its not a matter of finding them. Its a matter of waiting an hour in an off the grid belt for a spawn to tank so i can mine for 10 min and pop the 7k crok roids that dwell in them.
*rant off*
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:19:00 -
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The off-grid belts are great for staying hidden and getting ore that would normally run out.
No, they're not bugs.
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Chippie MS
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:21:00 -
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me me me me me me me thats all ive heard read what i just said its for more casual gamers and not rock rapers like yourself i bet by the time people in your area of space get home from work everything is gone.
From the sound of things you dont have any trouble finding stuff to mine so stop moaning cos you cant get even more easier this way things get left for others to mine.... im perfectly happy spending 20 mins finding a hidden field and bookmarking it then spend an hour or 2 mining it just because you are not doesnt make it a bug
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Neveren
ore doesnt respawn slower if you pop it.. Please stop believing any myths people have told you.
Odd, I seem to remember the patch notes have stated that popping roids will affect the respawn rates.
As Im not a miner I just skimmed the info and went on and thus dont really know how it works or if it was implemented.
Nomatter, I make my isk doing other stuff.
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2006.01.17 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Neveren
I can mine 7k bisto/crok/ark in no time. thus i want belts in a nice U shape so i can warp in.. strip highends... move on.. I can mine 100k crok/bisto/ark in a matter of an afternoon.. thus i dont have time to track down off the grid belts.
[I mine tons]...thus I don't have time to track down off the grid belts.
Maybe you should just give up mining, spend the extra time you've saved at work, then take the extra money you got from work and buy some extra ISK on eBay. Wouldn't that be the easiest?
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Ruby StarFire
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Posted - 2006.01.17 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams
Odd, I seem to remember the patch notes have stated that popping roids will affect the respawn rates.
Not that I dont believe you, but which patch notes would these be? (pre castor im guessing, cause I have been round since then, and I've never noticed anything mentioned about repawn rates on roids).
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Quanteeri
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Posted - 2006.01.17 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ruby StarFire
Originally by: Fester Addams
Odd, I seem to remember the patch notes have stated that popping roids will affect the respawn rates.
Not that I dont believe you, but which patch notes would these be? (pre castor im guessing, cause I have been round since then, and I've never noticed anything mentioned about repawn rates on roids).
Yeah, and we've seen just how reliable the patch notes can be. 
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Neue Regel
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Posted - 2006.01.17 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Neue Regel on 17/01/2006 17:56:44
Forgive me if this is a very noob question, but I am new to eve and I mine and I am interested in this. Is this something that you have to warp to a belt in a system, turn your ship in any direction that is opposite the current belt, hit afterburners and pray that you run into some more rock in the next hour? How do you know which direction to head? With how slow a ship goes in relation to the size of space, it could take you weeks/months, to find off grid rocks?
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Mechaet
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Posted - 2006.01.17 18:06:00 -
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No, it is a matter of intelligently using your ship's onboard scanner.... fly an interceptor to do it (works best), use the directional scanner, and fly in the direction of the asteroids. Once there, make a bookmark, and save it for future reference.
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Neue Regel
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Posted - 2006.01.17 18:18:00 -
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No, it is a matter of intelligently using your ship's onboard scanner.... fly an interceptor to do it (works best), use the directional scanner, and fly in the direction of the asteroids. Once there, make a bookmark, and save it for future reference.
Thanks, I am not sure how to even use the scanner in this fashion. Like I said, I am new to the game. You say to fly in the direction of the asteroids, do I fly towards the ^ belts I see on the horizon like from a gate in the system?
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LoveSlave Dave
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Posted - 2006.01.17 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: LoveSlave Dave on 17/01/2006 18:42:43
Any frig with a mnwd/ab will do fit it for speed and using the settings of your overview hit the scanner on 360 degree scan at a range of about 4000 any rocks that pop up that dont have a distance on them are at a hidden belt.
To find these start decreasing the angle of the scan until you get them down to 15 degrees and then MWD in that direction and start reducing the scan range so you know how far to travel and then eventually they will pop onto your overview and everything else will disappear as you change grid then just get close to em and Bookmark them.... i recommend not popping them as im not sure if they will respawn in the same place and thus make your bookmarking useless
Oh and they are not actually hidden belts they are parts of the belts that are off of the overview grid. Any belts can have hidden parts but not all do
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.01.17 18:54:00 -
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Go to a belt, point at one end, scan at a narrow angle. If you see more rocks in the scanner than what you see, you have a hidden belt.
MWD in that directoin and they'll pop in front of you.
BM, viola!
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Brother Glovius
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Posted - 2006.01.17 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Brother Glovius on 17/01/2006 19:17:43
I guess i've been living under a rock (ha ha! pun intended) but these hidden belts, they exist in ONLY 0.0 space? No hidden belts in Empire?
I'm a baby carebear looking for a hwy to fast riches and exotic dancers but then again, who isn't--looking for exotic dancers that is.
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Mechaet
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Posted - 2006.01.17 21:24:00 -
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I have seen "hidden" portions of belts in as high as a .5 system.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2006.01.17 21:34:00 -
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Uber-carebearing 4TL.. big time
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Orb Lati
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Posted - 2006.01.17 23:43:00 -
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Finding the hidden belts is quite easy.
However i have found the best way is to use an interceptor with MWD and Imp Cloak.
The improved cloak gives you the ability to scan the field even if there is a nasty NPC spawn in the same belt with minimal risk.
The best way to locate the belts are to use the overview filter with the system scan using about 5000km range 360 degree setting. this will allow you to discover is there are roids off grid (the wont have a distance measurement). If you see off grid roids you can then start reducing angle ranges to get your direction.
And before a noob asks your angle is based on the axis of your camera view..not your ship.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.01.27 01:59:00 -
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I Support this thread... Reset the Asteroid belts so I can mine better!
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.01.27 02:11:00 -
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No.
Achieving anything in this game should take SOME atention and efford, mining doesnt require you to do much to begin with. And since low-sec ore is valuble, and you say there are no pirates, off-grid astroids should be a small problem compared to those that have to deal with hordes of
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deal with it, please.
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Zavernus Hamarabi
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Posted - 2006.01.27 02:35:00 -
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Sooooo,
The op basically wants eve tailored to him so he can mine better so he can make more money because its all about him?
Did i miss anything?
Also. It'd be easier for you to ask ccp to dump billions into your wallet directly. You have an equal chance of success with both scenarios.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.01.27 14:46:00 -
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So..... how does everyone feel about Having asteroids in a nice "U" shaped belt for easy mining... I know i enjoy it.
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Drallia
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Posted - 2006.01.27 16:47:00 -
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Funny I asked about this in another post when I was playing with a scanner and found Omber .8 space but off the grid.. Now I got to go buy a MWD to go find it......
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Atma Darkwolf
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Posted - 2006.01.27 17:03:00 -
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i personaly think that the belts should be just that.. giant rings around the planet..when u warp to the belt, you warp to the closest spot to your position to that belt.
Make the belt cover many many grids, and allow ppl to fly for hours alongside the belt. also give 'roids some effect(damage when u smash into them, dampon your sensors, etc, diffrent minerals have differnt effects and can scramble your sensors and even make the overview dissapear altogether, give pirates a little edge..allow them to hide in belts and ambush greedy stripminers)
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.27 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Stephen HB
Originally by: Soren
Used to be able to mine afk there, but now npcs spawn
Used to afk mine ark with an indy
Oh, now that's just COLD.
That's why it was ruled an exploit then fixed very shortly afterwards :)
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.01.27 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Stephen HB
Originally by: Soren
Used to be able to mine afk there, but now npcs spawn
Used to afk mine ark with an indy
Oh, now that's just COLD.
That's why it was ruled an exploit then fixed very shortly afterwards :)
Just to be clear, mining in an off grid section of a normal belt was a no-no, but 'real' hidden belts were fine.
However, when CCP realised that NPC's didn't spawn at them, that was fixed.
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