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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mozana on 16/01/2006 19:36:12
Our 5 weeks long war between x13 and Firmus Ixion has come to an end.
The raw numbers are as follows
X13 Killed 698 Ships.
x13 Lost 48 ships
Of the 698 kills, 60 was Battleships, 11 HAC's, 23 AF's and rest was a mix of just about every kind of ship.
x13 lost 0 (zero) Battleships, 1 HAC and rest was cruisers/t1+t2/BC frigs.
Of spectacular kills x13 killed
* 1 Bhaalgorn
* 2 Freighters (2*providence)
* 1 Huginn
x13 Status:
We still have a ongoing war vs Stain- Alliance. But since the FIX war has ended, we will be in open for any suggestions/Contracts/whatever. Convo our CEO or our diplomats.
Disclaimer> This is not flaimebait. Please keep you trigger happy alt fingers, from this post. If you got something on your mind, regarding your mains losses, use the x13's forum. Thanks.
Best Regards
Mozana
http://www.x13corp.com
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Kibito
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Posted - 2006.01.16 19:31:00 -
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I would like to thanks FiX for being friendly in local 
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:06:00 -
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Just out of sheer curiosity, does the end of your empire war vs FIX also mean you are going to refrain from shooting us in 0.0, or is anyone considered "fair game" out there?
Btw, this is my main and I'm in FIX - just got the tags hidden so I can post in this forum without the whole "omg he speaks for his alliance" thing that seems to happen in here the moment you support or insult another entity.
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Automiton
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:10:00 -
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You sure your killboard tabulates right? Cause it seems whoever programmed it doesn't know how to make your killboard page, or search, or parse. I'm guessing FIX's killboard is more accurate.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 16/01/2006 20:31:31
 Originally by: Automiton
Edited by: Automiton on 16/01/2006 20:16:46
You sure your killboard tabulates right? Cause it seems whoever programmed it doesn't know how to make your killboard page, or search, or parse. I'm guessing FIX's killboard is more accurate.
Rough Count on your killboard disputes that. Maybe you could clarify, is it 698 Involvements? In which this case, 1 kill with 11 x13's on it means there's 11 involvements. I hope your not counting involvements as kills.
No offense to FIX, but from my experience they have a terrible history of posting losses. I can't comment on x13 however 700 kills does seem a tad excessive.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Automiton
Edited by: Automiton on 16/01/2006 20:16:46
You sure your killboard tabulates right? Cause it seems whoever programmed it doesn't know how to make your killboard page, or search, or parse. I'm guessing FIX's killboard is more accurate.
Rough Count on your killboard disputes that. Maybe you could clarify, is it 698 Involvements? In which this case, 1 kill with 11 x13's on it means there's 11 involvements. I hope your not counting involvements as kills.
I programmed the killboard myself. I dosnt look at involvments. Duplicates should not be possible either.
The way it works is as follows.
1: Original mail is posted via ingame browser, and kept unedited in a master database.
2: A cronscript running once a while, is parsing unparsed killmails, retracting 1 entry per every killmail.
3: We dont look at involvements at all.
4: The parser tries not to parse duplicate entries, with several error handling functions.
I work with development and sysadmin. Even though im not a PHP scriptor, i got the basics covered by this quite trivial routines.
The presentation itself on the webpage, is quite simple. It hasnt any priority, since i'd rather use my sparetime playing EVE.
The killboard is 100% accurate when it comes down to parsing of mails. We are very keen to get theese data accurate. That said. One or two errors could occour.
Any CEO's from corp/alliances, which should want a complete list of the kills, to correct their respective killboards, can contact me or our CEO, and a complete full list will be sent.
Thanks.
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Automiton
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:35:00 -
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Uh,
I quickly counted the killmails that they posted and they don't have 700 killmails against FIX alone. Now I can't tell because the board is kinda shotty, but if you look at someone like Stains Killboard, last time I checked they had more kills this month then they have had all time. I'm noting a descrepancy, and btw, I have 4 killmails of Slackers that I haven't seen on your board. (on my main ofc). Yeah I'm a cowardly alt, but I'd rather not be told that I'm using political intentions to debase the numbers, just reason. Thirdly, I have compared Stain vs Fix Killboard numbers, and they are usually in lock step, for the most part.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Automiton
I have 4 killmails of Slackers that I haven't seen on your board. (on my main ofc).
Then stop hiding behind your alt and send them to me, I'll post them.
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Arkanis
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Arkanis on 16/01/2006 20:41:24
Yeah, I don't care who your main is if you could forward me those SL mails. I can post them.
Probably from someone who just left or was booted.
Thanks.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Automiton
Uh,
I quickly counted the killmails that they posted and they don't have 700 killmails against FIX alone.
I should have said, that the 700 mails is including the "outgame FIX alliance corps" which we declared as well during this FIX campain.
The outgame FIX alliance corps is apx. 68 kills or so.
I should have stated that in the first post. My bad.
And my offer withstand! Every FIX CEO who wants a list about their own corp, ill send it.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:52:00 -
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Quote:
Just out of sheer curiosity, does the end of your empire war vs FIX also mean you are going to refrain from shooting us in 0.0, or is anyone considered "fair game" out there?
We still have a Stain Alliance war going. SA tends to go into your space. We hunt also in FIX area.
If we are going to be FIX friendly or not, will be up to the diplomats. If the diplomats dosnt agree upon something, it will be up to the guns ;)
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Thilos
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Posted - 2006.01.16 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Thilos on 16/01/2006 20:52:59
Well, good fighting you, Good luck against Stain.
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Brisi
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:09:00 -
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Impressive stats, good job.
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:15:00 -
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Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
And if the enemy fleets werent bs heavy ? From what i saw, most of these kills are ganks.
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Mahrin Skel
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:54:00 -
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x13 fought hard, two of those BC kills were mine (yes, they are posted on the Fix KB). They were professional, they didn't taunt me, they just scrammed, webbed, and demolished me. One of them I should have avoided, I tried to take on a HAC in a BC rigged for rat-hunting, and got completely schooled.
When we were able to force a large engagement, we usually won (two out of three), but they didn't offer us many of those.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:54:00 -
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I belive everything (noob ships, shuttles, pods) is included in the 698 kills.
The FIX war has been kinda dull tbh. After they realised we weren't gonna fight their blobs, they basicly stopped sending gangs after us unless we bubblecamped a2 or 3fk, or were roaming in q.
p - l - u - r
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
And if the enemy fleets werent bs heavy ? From what i saw, most of these kills are ganks.
Does it matter how they got the kills? They killed 60 BS while losing none, while vastly outnumbered and probably blobbed almost all of the time
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:01:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 16/01/2006 23:02:23
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
And if the enemy fleets werent bs heavy ? From what i saw, most of these kills are ganks.
Does it matter how they got the kills? They killed 60 BS while losing none, while vastly outnumbered and probably blobbed almost all of the time
Erm, are you forgetting we are currently fighting a territory war with SA atm? Keeping hold of stations > fighting x13.
edit: personal optinion yadda yadda yadda
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IamBen
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
And if the enemy fleets werent bs heavy ? From what i saw, most of these kills are ganks.
Does it matter how they got the kills? They killed 60 BS while losing none, while vastly outnumbered and probably blobbed almost all of the time
Don't get so worked up Drunkeh.
Good effort FIX.
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Mozana
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Mozana on 16/01/2006 23:05:45
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Erm, are you forgetting we are currently fighting a territory war with SA atm? Keeping hold of stations > fighting x13.
True. After SA moved towards FAT (or whereever they started) we saw less gangs fighting us. Nothing is more true but that.
And im pretty sure, that some of the most experienced fighters was protecting FIX territory as they should.
This war hasnt been our most funny war to date. That said, we have had some fun fights. Some 1on1, Some gank, a bit of fleet. Some fun, some won before even started. It all is a part of a 5 week war.
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Bedrox
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:14:00 -
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gg, i never saw a single one of you, but then again, i'm never in empire to begin with.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bedrox
gg, i never saw a single one of you, but then again, i'm never in empire to begin with.
I would say nasty things about x13, but they would be untrue and ras would spam me with evemails.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:18:00 -
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did you quit or something drunkeh?
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Drunkeh
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Posted - 2006.01.16 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Randay
did you quit or something drunkeh?
Yeah but got more time left on my account 
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USN CVN72
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Posted - 2006.01.17 01:33:00 -
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X13 idea of getting kills is sitting on agil station or ipref or other major system gates. they have Zero experience at actual fleet engagement. no tactics whatsoever. its Pure Gank the solo pilot flying by himself with crappy bookmarks (hehe i know from experience).
If X13 wants to glorify themselves with statistics why dont they accumulate some real engagement kills against their enemies. maybe then their statistics will be more realistic.
Final Note - X13 r just gankers nothing more but hey there isnt anything wrong with that. I kind of like it sometimes. keeps me on my toes and reminds me hey nuub (speaking to myself hehe) stop flying with 2yr old crappy bm's :)
cheers
nice gank u got from me today!
USN
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
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Posted - 2006.01.17 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol on 17/01/2006 01:41:03
Originally by: Drunkeh
Originally by: IamBen
Good effort FIX. Since im guessing most of the 600 plus kills werent killed in fleet fights thats not bad downing 68 bandits.
Lol "good effort fix?"
Yes, excellent job achieving a 0-60 BS kill ratio. A truly remarkable feat.
relax we blob, they/you gank it's the same ****. This is how the game is played thats all.
GJ x13.
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CardboardSword42
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Posted - 2006.01.17 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72
X13 idea of getting kills is sitting on agil station or ipref or other major system gates. they have Zero experience at actual fleet engagement. no tactics whatsoever. its Pure Gank the solo pilot flying by himself with crappy bookmarks (hehe i know from experience).
If X13 wants to glorify themselves with statistics why dont they accumulate some real engagement kills against their enemies. maybe then their statistics will be more realistic.
Final Note - X13 r just gankers nothing more but hey there isnt anything wrong with that. I kind of like it sometimes. keeps me on my toes and reminds me hey nuub (speaking to myself hehe) stop flying with 2yr old crappy bm's :)
cheers
nice gank u got from me today!
USN
When it comes down to it, a kill is a kill whether it happened in a fleet battle or you got ganked. And at a point (and 60 battleships is far beyond that point), I think that there has to be some strategy, talent, or something along those lines behind the ganks.
Now for the compliment sandwich, I'd like to congratulate FIX for being able to go toe to toe with SA and alliance while still putting up with x13
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Kilina
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Posted - 2006.01.17 04:15:00 -
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USN is right. X13 is VERY good at tactics like avoiding a fair fight, baiting with the mass logon trick, and doing the mass logoff whenever they get stuck.
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