this is ridiculous.

so i am going to let two of my accounts go unsubed.

do something CCP.

They are doing something. It just takes a while to have an impactGǪ if it worksGǪ

PLEX for gametime is negatively affecting CCP's cashflow.

Here's a simplistic scenario :-

I Spend $10 for a PLEX on the site.
You who have billions of ISK buy the PLEX for 400Million ISK
You buy more.
And more.
You use a PLEX to fund an account, however many you may have, 1 or 20, does not matter.
You do not pay $20 to sub for a couple of months, not ever.
Say 50,000 accounts on the system.
10,000 are paying hard cash for subs
5,000 are paying hard cash for PLEX
There's a defecit of real money, real money not going to CCP.
Funding an account by buying and using ingame PLEX is a loss for CCP.

CCP is bleeding badly because of PLEX for subs.

PLEX for gametime is negatively affecting CCP's cashflow.

Here's a simplistic scenario :-

I Spend $10 for a PLEX on the site.
You who have billions of ISK buy the PLEX for 400Million ISK
You buy more.
And more.
You use a PLEX to fund an account, however many you may have, 1 or 20, does not matter.
You do not pay $20 to sub for a couple of months, not ever.
Say 50,000 accounts on the system.
10,000 are paying hard cash for subs
5,000 are paying hard cash for PLEX
There's a defecit of real money, real money not going to CCP.
Funding an account by buying and using ingame PLEX is a loss for CCP.

CCP is bleeding badly because of PLEX for subs.

PLEX for gametime is negatively affecting CCP's cashflow.

Here's a simplistic scenario :-

I Spend $10 for a PLEX on the site.
You who have billions of ISK buy the PLEX for 400Million ISK
You buy more.
And more.
You use a PLEX to fund an account, however many you may have, 1 or 20, does not matter.
You do not pay $20 to sub for a couple of months, not ever.
Say 50,000 accounts on the system.
10,000 are paying hard cash for subs
5,000 are paying hard cash for PLEX
There's a defecit of real money, real money not going to CCP.
Funding an account by buying and using ingame PLEX is a loss for CCP.

CCP is bleeding badly because of PLEX for subs.

no they are not... plex has to be bought by other players......

pvp player buys a gtc converts to 2x plex.... adds 1x to his ac for 30 days time and sell other plex to pve player to buy new pew pew ships.
pvp repeats this every month


CCP still gets $34.99 per month (instead of $34.99 every 60 days) and two accounts stay active for 30 days instead of one for 60 days.

It balances itself out

CCP do not seed the market with plex.... only players do.

I Spend $10 for a PLEX on the site.

what is this thing that they are doing? I am curious.

Here's ansimplisticincorrect scenario :-

I Spend $10 for a PLEX on the site.
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You do not pay $20 to sub for a couple of months, not ever.

this is ridiculous.

so i am going to let two of my accounts go unsubed.

do something CCP.

PLEX are bought for real cash by subscribers.
This PLEX then is sold on the market or used for game time, the latter probably being the least popular option.

*cough* "pvp player" ?
Try industrialists/Miners/PI
Trying to make it like it's "pvp" players who are the good guys in the equation is flawed.
You're skipping over the fact that the main people who are making the really big ISK ingame are the old and established players and mostly owners of large Corporations.
Pvp player use their eaily earned ISK to buy PLEX ingame. Never pays cash for subs.

There is zero balance, that's a dream, a quick way out.

If CCP interfere they're ruining the so called sandbox.


It's just market forces at work, let them work.

Will accounts "unsubscribe" Hell yes they will - Unpaying accounts.
Most of you who are playing for more than a year do not even pay real cash to play Eve. You think this is cool and it is right - It is not cool nor right, you are undermining CCP, the very company struggling finacially, the company who run this game.

classic case of inflation. eve has no real isk sinks. its only going to go higher. deal with it.

Is it so hard to understand that those PLEXes where paid in real cash by someone? In fact, PLEX are better for CCP than subs:

1. They are more expensive ($35 for 2 months instead of $30).
2. During their life from purchase to being redeemed, they are free financing for CCP. They get the money before they would via subscription.

do something CCP.

I am saying - Stop allowing ingame PLEX to be used to pay for Subs. Those extra, "free" accounts just generate more ISK, way more than the incoming real money spent to buy PLEX. There's your equations Sirs, think it through.

You sub (x) accounts by using ingame ISK to by ingame PLEX.
Those (x) account generate even more ISK
There's your ISK flood, blame that, stop trying to allocate blame on mission runners/incursions etc.
The fact is that ISK should not be able to buy ingame PLEX.
Will that upset people Hell yes it will.
Will accounts "unsubscribe" Hell yes they will - Unpaying accounts.
Most of you who are playing for more than a year do not even pay real cash to play Eve. You think this is cool and it is right - It is not cool nor right, you are undermining CCP, the very company struggling finacially, the company who run this game.

Stop the ISK faucet ? Easy, disallow the subbing of accounts using ingame PLEX. This will force those who want to play, to pay. All those thousands of free accounts that are ingame generating trillions of ISK can go away over time, because they are just using easily-earned ISK to buy ingame PLEX.

PLEX prices should be 10x their current amount in ISK - discourage all those free accounts churning out more ISK.

Is it so hard to understand that the players with plenty of ISK are subbing additional accounts, which generate even more ISK, and these players are not paying CCP a dime to play ?

Is it so hard to understand that the players with plenty of ISK are subbing additional accounts, which generate even more ISK, and these players are not paying CCP a dime to play ?

Stop the ISK faucet ? Easy, disallow the subbing of accounts using ingame PLEX.