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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2006.01.18 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 18/01/2006 08:01:24
From:M-C Pillar of Light Revelation Class.
Location:Classified.
Commanding Officer:Adm.-RET Golan Trevize.
***FURIOUS EX-ADMIRAL APPEARS ON HOLOCOMMS UNIT , HOLDING A BLACK HANDGUN IN HIS RIGHT HAND***
I Golan Trevize holder of the Cross of the sacred throne order, hereby demand that the chief engineers of the Archon class carrier be executed for crimes agains the Empire and for general worthlessnes.
***WAVES BLACK GUNS MENACINGLY AT COMMS UNIT***
Why you may ask your selves, this is why...
50% bonus to Energy and Shield transfer range per level.
Now what selfrespecting Amarrian would even consider using shields EVERYONE knows shields and electronic warfare is for WEAKLINGS.
Armor and superior firepower is the two ingredients that Amarr supremacy rely on , so i ask change this to a Remote armor repairing system like the Aeon Class.
***THE ENRAGED ADMIRAL FROWNS AND CORRECTS THE CROSS HANGIMG FROM HIS NECK***
I swear i will have no rest untill the responsible have been trialed and this error has been corrected.
Loyal Amarrian subjects and students of Amarrian technology please sign this petition.
***TRANSMISSON ENDS***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2006.01.18 07:53:00 -
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Edited by: Golan Trevize on 18/01/2006 08:01:24
From:M-C Pillar of Light Revelation Class.
Location:Classified.
Commanding Officer:Adm.-RET Golan Trevize.
***FURIOUS EX-ADMIRAL APPEARS ON HOLOCOMMS UNIT , HOLDING A BLACK HANDGUN IN HIS RIGHT HAND***
I Golan Trevize holder of the Cross of the sacred throne order, hereby demand that the chief engineers of the Archon class carrier be executed for crimes agains the Empire and for general worthlessnes.
***WAVES BLACK GUNS MENACINGLY AT COMMS UNIT***
Why you may ask your selves, this is why...
50% bonus to Energy and Shield transfer range per level.
Now what selfrespecting Amarrian would even consider using shields EVERYONE knows shields and electronic warfare is for WEAKLINGS.
Armor and superior firepower is the two ingredients that Amarr supremacy rely on , so i ask change this to a Remote armor repairing system like the Aeon Class.
***THE ENRAGED ADMIRAL FROWNS AND CORRECTS THE CROSS HANGIMG FROM HIS NECK***
I swear i will have no rest untill the responsible have been trialed and this error has been corrected.
Loyal Amarrian subjects and students of Amarrian technology please sign this petition.
***TRANSMISSON ENDS***
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
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Rewan Thanas
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Posted - 2006.01.18 08:12:00 -
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QFT
Amen, brother. Amen.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.01.18 08:19:00 -
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Maybe the devs got drunk and mixed up Caldari and Amarr?
 Originally by: rowbin hod
Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2006.01.18 08:20:00 -
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I drive those emm . . . errr . . . weakling ships, but even I know that Amarran laserdeathpwn mobiles should be using remote ARMOUR transfers, not sheild transfers, especially in light that they have 17k sheilds and 27k armour.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Tassi
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Posted - 2006.01.18 08:59:00 -
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Looks like a half-assed khanid bonus ...
Oh plz why do we amarr get this khanid ****?
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.01.18 09:02:00 -
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Maybe It's intentional...  Devs could have dark plans 
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.01.18 10:00:00 -
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Meh, it looks like it was puked up rather than built, anyway.
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Please fix the EW stacking bug, it's a disgrace!
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Dust Bound
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Posted - 2006.01.18 10:06:00 -
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Indeed! Shield systems are designed by degenerate weaklings and should be reserved for such individuals. Any Amarr or Gallente citizen will be able to tell you that it is hard, solid, armour that stands between you and cold space, not some flimsy Sun Block 2000Ö.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.01.18 10:07:00 -
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So I make a character to play around with corporation creation and look at the new logos. Why does that change my default posting character?
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.01.18 10:08:00 -
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pffft you try having a 5% bonus to reduction in cycle time on arrays 
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 10:22:00 -
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The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Best sig EVAR!
Back on topic, all of the carrier bonuses suck the large one, except the Gallente who actually get a bonus to the thing that makes carriers good. Minmatar is probably the least most sucky, depending on how you think a carrier should be used. Or Caldari, if you're one of the crazies that think carriers are a front line vessel.
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franny
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Posted - 2006.01.18 11:08:00 -
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/me checks the bank acct to make sure the bribe to the Amarr ship designers cleared
can't conquer anything when your ships ass backwards 
seriously, wtf is it ass backwards for???????????
everyone knows
Amarr & Gallente = Armor
Caldari = Shields
Minmatar = Duct Tape
(at least usually)
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Degarion Soth
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Posted - 2006.01.18 11:09:00 -
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Yeah it does seem a little backward - the devs must have copied/pasted the stats and forgot to change them (I hope!) 
Be great if a Dev could confirm if this correct - or perhaps if they have done so already some kind soul will drop a linky into the thread? 
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2006.01.18 11:13:00 -
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Does anyone have one yet? Is it not just a typo in the description? :X
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Lady Noriko
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Posted - 2006.01.18 11:49:00 -
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Actualy, it does make a lot of sense.
I do not need to remind you that Carriers are Supposed to be Fleet Vessels. What do you have in a Fleet of Armarr Ships? You have Armor Tanked Ships cuz Med Slots are needed for other stuff. Most Armarr fittings i have seen do not use shild boosters or other kinds of fast shild recharge.
Here comes the Carrier... It will recharge the shilds of the other Armar vessels, freeing up a mid slot for them. So the armarr have supperior armor tanked beasts who get their shilds boostet by a carrier miles away.
Nice.
Even Better: The Carrier also can Transfer Loads of power into the Armor Tanks of its fellow armaar friends...
Going all out laser + armorrep without drain on its own cap will make every armaar bs happy.
Another thing is: Its happily in line with the Caldari/armarr luv connection, as they share pretty similar bonusses. So do gallente and Minimoomatars.
Of course, while it fits into the picture, it still suckz from a powerplayer's point of view.
But if wed follow the powergamers, eve would be left with 50 Players constanlty moaning in the forums...
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Noriko
Here comes the Carrier... It will recharge the shilds of the other Armar vessels, freeing up a mid slot for them. So the armarr have supperior armor tanked beasts who get their shilds boostet by a carrier miles away.
No sane player is going to fit an armour tank and a shield booster anyway, so the mid-slot is free for other things regardless.
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Arleonenis
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Noriko
Actualy, it does make a lot of sense.
Not really
Originally by: Lady Noriko
I do not need to remind you that Carriers are Supposed to be Fleet Vessels. What do you have in a Fleet of Armarr Ships? You have Armor Tanked Ships cuz Med Slots are needed for other stuff. Most Armarr fittings i have seen do not use shild boosters or other kinds of fast shild recharge.
Ofcorse no as amarrian ships use HARDENERS (you know what it is?) on armor so shield to them are useless, lets say you have 20% resistance to incoming damage on shield and 80% on armor someone hit you for 1k damage so on shield you lose 800 points and on hardened armor you lose 200... you following me or you are lost already? if you are lost i will tell you in simple words: boosting unhardened shields are as stupid as hull tanking you now understand?
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Here comes the Carrier...
And here it goes down as everything enemy have would be insta pointed to it and it will go byebye, even if gang leader wouldnt call it primary almost everyone could not resist such tempting target
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Nice.
Not really
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Even Better: The Carrier also can Transfer Loads of power into the Armor Tanks of its fellow armaar friends...
Going all out laser + armorrep without drain on its own cap will make every armaar bs happy.
Not really look at previous answer: carrier on front line would become a pod fast
Not really
Originally by: Lady Noriko
I do not need to remind you that Carriers are Supposed to be Fleet Vessels. What do you have in a Fleet of Armarr Ships? You have Armor Tanked Ships cuz Med Slots are needed for other stuff. Most Armarr fittings i have seen do not use shild boosters or other kinds of fast shild recharge.
Ofcorse no as amarrian ships use HARDENERS (you know what it is?) on armor so shield to them are useless, lets say you have 20% resistance to incoming damage on shield and 80% on armor someone hit you for 1k damage so on shield you lose 800 points and on hardened armor you lose 200... you following me or you are lost already? if you are lost i will tell you in simple words: boosting unhardened shields are as stupid as hull tanking you now understand?
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Here comes the Carrier...
And here it goes down as everything enemy have would be insta pointed to it and it will go byebye, even if gang leader wouldnt call it primary almost everyone could not resist such tempting target
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Nice.
Not really
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Another thing is: Its happily in line with the Caldari/armarr luv connection, as they share pretty similar bonusses. So do gallente and Minimoomatars.
Minmatars not "Minimoomatars", i dont know such breed, those are maybe khanid/amarr ofsprings?
Originally by: Lady Noriko
Of course, while it fits into the picture, it still suckz from a powerplayer's point of view.
But if wed follow the powergamers, eve would be left with 50 Players constanlty moaning in the forums...
Ship is a crap if it is far subpar to others of same class in designated role, using ship that is really far far far behind is stupid, unless you like to have extreme challenge and have really really fat wallet, than go for it
sorry for sarcasm but only gallente carrier have some usefull bonuses, and matari (the one i would like to have from RP point of view) is such crap that i cant even think about flying it (and i dont want to train gallente bs to lvl5, i already have minmatar and amarr bss to lvl5 so no thanks)
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:13:00 -
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Amen.. Shields are for wuzz'ies ;D
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:16:00 -
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Incidentally, are you intending your Amarr carrier to only fly around with fleets made up exclusively of Amarr ships? I wasnt aware MC was an Amarr-only roleplay organisation....
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Incidentally, are you intending your Amarr carrier to only fly around with fleets made up exclusively of Amarr ships? I wasnt aware MC was an Amarr-only roleplay organisation....
Thats unlikely. What I read it as was that he thought it was stupid that and Amarrian ship had anything to do with shields. It's not even Tech 2, so you can't even use the argument of "Lolz cuz khanid maked it"
I Make Sigs
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Incidentally, are you intending your Amarr carrier to only fly around with fleets made up exclusively of Amarr ships? I wasnt aware MC was an Amarr-only roleplay organisation....
Nah, we've got quite a few Gallente ships, too. I take it as my personal quest to annoy all Caldari, though.
In either case, the thing is, armour repairing is prefered as the shields repair themselves. Also, we can have others in shield boosting carriers if we wanted to. And it'd be a shame forcing such an accomplished armour repairer as Golan into a shield booster ship just because CCP ruined racial consistency.
Oh, and has Capital Remote Repairers been seeded yet?
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin
just because CCP ruined racial consistency.
I dont know, I think theyre fairly consistent in changing what races are meant to consistently do what :P
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Lady Noriko
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Posted - 2006.01.18 13:19:00 -
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If you had used a minimum amount of common sense you might have noticed that i explaned the (possible) reasons why the armarr did build their carrier the way it is.
OF COURSE its no good if you put it into the context of actual gameplay.
I said that already.
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And here it goes down as everything enemy have would be insta pointed to it and it will go byebye, even if gang leader wouldnt call it primary almost everyone could not resist such tempting target
That goes for every ship.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.18 13:28:00 -
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Golan?
You don't even WANT to know what happened to the Minmtar ex-design team for the Minmatar Freighter.
Note the literal use of the word "ex-"
Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Incidentally, are you intending your Amarr carrier to only fly around with fleets made up exclusively of Amarr ships? I wasnt aware MC was an Amarr-only roleplay organisation....
Personally I fly Caldari and Minnie ships (both racially supposed to be shield tankers) and only ONCE on MC ops have i had a Shield tank, I find my mids are too valuable to waste. Lows keep you alive, mids help with killing the other guy.
But for heavens sake, an amarran built with a sheild transfer is just plain wrong.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Vladic Valenski
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Vladic Valenski on 18/01/2006 14:27:49
Signed
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:02:00 -
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Oh, hell, the "Admiral" is out of his cage again. 
Doesn't hurt that he's right tho. Amarr = armor. Bad, CCP! BAD!
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Latex Mistress
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:04:00 -
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The leaders of the resistance are laughing at you, noob!
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Golan Trevize
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Posted - 2006.01.18 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Noriko
Of course, while it fits into the picture, it still suckz from a powerplayer's point of view.
But if wed follow the powergamers, eve would be left with 50 Players constanlty moaning in the forums...
OOC:
I wouldent consider my self a power player , i have been a Amarr only user from EVE release date i hav PVPTd in Amarr ships in good times and in bad times , i hope this is a error from the devs since Shields and Amarr is just plain wrong , by posting this IC i hoped to get a developers attention make a bit of fun and NOT moan like so many others ... i mean havent we seen enough: OMG CCP Nerfed my ub4r ship , Unnerf or ill cancel my 3 accounts and you will be go bankrupt in no time...
Golan Trevize
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
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