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Lee Saisima
Caldari Mining and Logistics Academy
70
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:23:00 -
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Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:24:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistently level, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
Can i have your stuff?!?!
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1571
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:24:00 -
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Bye. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:25:00 -
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**** yeh only took 10 years to get that in first, I can now retire in peace. \o/ |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:26:00 -
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mmh can i haz your stuff
anyway i dont see those problems been playing for 7 years now and i think overall eve is getting better and more fun to play with
wich mmo you gonna play now? cause really with that ment. you wont play any mmo game long.
o/ The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:27:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! ->
Stuff is mine |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:27:00 -
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Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine
can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:28:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then?
maybe, if im feeling friendly. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:31:00 -
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Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then? maybe, if im feeling friendly.
cools  The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3985
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:34:00 -
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Finally you're leaving, we were waiting for it. |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
208
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:35:00 -
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urstuffz, I can haz? |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:35:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:urstuffz, I can haz?
WHAT DID I JUST SAY?! |

Iwan Pawlow
Super Heroes In Training
18
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:36:00 -
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stuffz, can haz I??? |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:38:00 -
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Iwan Pawlow wrote:stuffz, can haz I???
..... |

Schmata Bastanold
The brothers inc WHYS0 Expendable
981
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:40:00 -
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Thank God I just bought 6 PLEXes, CCP will survive till November 19th without your sub money. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

0mez
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:40:00 -
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Not only do they not enforce constant rule breaking pilots, they have also shown that they only want US customers going forward with the new expansion - amazon US 6 plex for half the price in $ as in -ú / Gé¼.. |

Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2328
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:42:00 -
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You mean the somer blink fiasco where ccp listened to what players said and changed what theyre doing based on it and that would have had and will have zero impact on the game in any way? sure, i can see why you'd quit over that. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:45:00 -
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0mez wrote:Not only do they not enforce action against constant rule breaking pilots
what rules are "tey" breaking? (constant) you petition them? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:46:00 -
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I don't know about you, but I primarily play the game, for the game. Not necessarily the policies that the company enacts.
I'm assuming your post is referring to the two major "scandals" in EVE right now. The TOS changes, and the Blink giveaways. Am I defending what CCP did during both events? No. Do I agree with what they did? Not in the least. Especially with the TOS changes and scam, because that was a very grey area to begin with.
But looking at both of them, neither have really changed the mechanics. You can argue the TOS changes has, but lets face it, it was the first time that issue has come up in 10 years. You can't tell me its affecting core gameplay over a large player base. You can still scam and steal your way to riches. Blink was just a silly decision that, most likely, CCP thought the players would be excited about and not riot.
Long story short: For me, the mechanics of EVE haven't changed with these scandals, thus, I will continue to gladly hand over my money and time. Especially with what I've seen of Rubicon. CCP policies and actions may eventually lead to game mechanics changes, and when they do, I'll begin to worry.
Otherwise, CCP can start clubbing bald eagles with baby seals and I'm going to enjoy this game. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
Say NO-áto CCP-EA. -áRehabilitate Frank!! |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
21317
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:47:00 -
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Bye, I'll follow suit in a few weeks... for the most expensive, subscription based game in the market, it simply is too lacing in too many ways... and the mew, "future vision" CCP seams to have right now will not make that any better. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1222
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:48:00 -
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STUFFFFZZZZZZ Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Spurty
978
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:48:00 -
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Never even got to pod you.
Clearly not worth keeping anyway
Buh-bye-cry-baby --- GòöGòùGòöGòÉGòªGòù GòæGòÜGòúGòæGòæGòÜGòù GòÜGòÉGò¬GòÉGò¬GòÉGò¥
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The Lobsters
The Operation
37
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:49:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
Get a job. That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
5
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:51:00 -
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Varius Xeral wrote:STUFFFFZZZZZZ
mother ******..... I GIVE UP! |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:53:00 -
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Nick Curso wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:STUFFFFZZZZZZ mother ******..... I GIVE UP!
Split the spoils with me and we can take on anyone who wants the lewt.
It's cool, you can totally trust me. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
138
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:54:00 -
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We will settle the matter of his stuffz the EVE way. Rifters at the sun! Haha!
No triage carrier backup you yellow-bellied bastards, or I'll bite yer legs off!
That said, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |

0mez
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:54:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:0mez wrote:Not only do they not enforce action against constant rule breaking pilots what rules are "tey" breaking? (constant) you petition them?
Loads of people petition them and put reports in but CCP state that they will not talk to anyone about actions / if any action is taken. So basically CCP can make their own rules based outside of the terms. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1274
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:55:00 -
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o7 Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
846
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:08:00 -
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Damn sorry to hear that... that reminds me that I need to buy some plex...maybe 12 or so?
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2884
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:12:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
The lamest thing you can do to try to get a game company to bend to your (incredibly ignorant) will is proclaim that you're going to withhold from them enough cash for a crappy seat at a Britney Spears concert per month. Then it get's lamer when you profess to know EVEN more people who shall withhold their Britney Spears tickets too.
You know you aren't quitting. People who really quit do so QUIETLY. You're simply trying to Extort CCP but aren't honest enough to admit it. Which oddly enough would make your quitting (which again, you know you aren't going to do) a good reason why you wouldn't be missed.
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