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Lee Saisima
Caldari Mining and Logistics Academy
70
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:23:00 -
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Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:24:00 -
[2] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistently level, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
Can i have your stuff?!?!
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1571
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:24:00 -
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Bye. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:25:00 -
[4] - Quote
**** yeh only took 10 years to get that in first, I can now retire in peace. \o/ |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:26:00 -
[5] - Quote
mmh can i haz your stuff
anyway i dont see those problems been playing for 7 years now and i think overall eve is getting better and more fun to play with
wich mmo you gonna play now? cause really with that ment. you wont play any mmo game long.
o/ The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:27:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! ->
Stuff is mine |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:27:00 -
[7] - Quote
Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine
can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:28:00 -
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Lugalbandak wrote:Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then?
maybe, if im feeling friendly. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:31:00 -
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Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:Nick Curso wrote:Lugalbandak wrote:mmh can i haz your stuff
Out! -> Stuff is mine can haz a couple of his ztuff from you then? maybe, if im feeling friendly.
cools  The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3985
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:34:00 -
[10] - Quote
Finally you're leaving, we were waiting for it. |

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium Kill It With Fire
208
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:35:00 -
[11] - Quote
urstuffz, I can haz? |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:35:00 -
[12] - Quote
Sirinda wrote:urstuffz, I can haz?
WHAT DID I JUST SAY?! |

Iwan Pawlow
Super Heroes In Training
18
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:36:00 -
[13] - Quote
stuffz, can haz I??? |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:38:00 -
[14] - Quote
Iwan Pawlow wrote:stuffz, can haz I???
..... |

Schmata Bastanold
The brothers inc WHYS0 Expendable
981
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:40:00 -
[15] - Quote
Thank God I just bought 6 PLEXes, CCP will survive till November 19th without your sub money. I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |

0mez
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:40:00 -
[16] - Quote
Not only do they not enforce constant rule breaking pilots, they have also shown that they only want US customers going forward with the new expansion - amazon US 6 plex for half the price in $ as in -ú / Gé¼.. |

Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2328
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:42:00 -
[17] - Quote
You mean the somer blink fiasco where ccp listened to what players said and changed what theyre doing based on it and that would have had and will have zero impact on the game in any way? sure, i can see why you'd quit over that. Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
137
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:45:00 -
[18] - Quote
0mez wrote:Not only do they not enforce action against constant rule breaking pilots
what rules are "tey" breaking? (constant) you petition them? The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:46:00 -
[19] - Quote
I don't know about you, but I primarily play the game, for the game. Not necessarily the policies that the company enacts.
I'm assuming your post is referring to the two major "scandals" in EVE right now. The TOS changes, and the Blink giveaways. Am I defending what CCP did during both events? No. Do I agree with what they did? Not in the least. Especially with the TOS changes and scam, because that was a very grey area to begin with.
But looking at both of them, neither have really changed the mechanics. You can argue the TOS changes has, but lets face it, it was the first time that issue has come up in 10 years. You can't tell me its affecting core gameplay over a large player base. You can still scam and steal your way to riches. Blink was just a silly decision that, most likely, CCP thought the players would be excited about and not riot.
Long story short: For me, the mechanics of EVE haven't changed with these scandals, thus, I will continue to gladly hand over my money and time. Especially with what I've seen of Rubicon. CCP policies and actions may eventually lead to game mechanics changes, and when they do, I'll begin to worry.
Otherwise, CCP can start clubbing bald eagles with baby seals and I'm going to enjoy this game. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
Say NO-áto CCP-EA. -áRehabilitate Frank!! |

Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
21317
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:47:00 -
[20] - Quote
Bye, I'll follow suit in a few weeks... for the most expensive, subscription based game in the market, it simply is too lacing in too many ways... and the mew, "future vision" CCP seams to have right now will not make that any better. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
Feature ideas I had/endorse: Crew Managment, Orcas as mobile Bases |

Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1222
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:48:00 -
[21] - Quote
STUFFFFZZZZZZ Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |

Spurty
978
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:48:00 -
[22] - Quote
Never even got to pod you.
Clearly not worth keeping anyway
Buh-bye-cry-baby --- GòöGòùGòöGòÉGòªGòù GòæGòÜGòúGòæGòæGòÜGòù GòÜGòÉGò¬GòÉGò¬GòÉGò¥
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The Lobsters
The Operation
37
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:49:00 -
[23] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
Get a job. That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested his claim. |

Nick Curso
Reikoku
5
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:51:00 -
[24] - Quote
Varius Xeral wrote:STUFFFFZZZZZZ
mother ******..... I GIVE UP! |

Tyrendian Biohazard
Terra Rosa Militia SpaceMonkey's Alliance
131
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:53:00 -
[25] - Quote
Nick Curso wrote:Varius Xeral wrote:STUFFFFZZZZZZ mother ******..... I GIVE UP!
Split the spoils with me and we can take on anyone who wants the lewt.
It's cool, you can totally trust me. My twitch stream to help new players: http://www.twitch.tv/biohazrd51
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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
138
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:54:00 -
[26] - Quote
We will settle the matter of his stuffz the EVE way. Rifters at the sun! Haha!
No triage carrier backup you yellow-bellied bastards, or I'll bite yer legs off!
That said, don't let the door hit you on your way out. Is it Hotdrop O'Clock yet? |

0mez
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:54:00 -
[27] - Quote
Lugalbandak wrote:0mez wrote:Not only do they not enforce action against constant rule breaking pilots what rules are "tey" breaking? (constant) you petition them?
Loads of people petition them and put reports in but CCP state that they will not talk to anyone about actions / if any action is taken. So basically CCP can make their own rules based outside of the terms. |

Azami Nevinyrall
Carbon Circle Tactical Narcotics Team
1274
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:55:00 -
[28] - Quote
o7 Support my (possibly dumb) Ideas!! Worm Rebalance!!! |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
846
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:08:00 -
[29] - Quote
Damn sorry to hear that... that reminds me that I need to buy some plex...maybe 12 or so?
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2884
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:12:00 -
[30] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
The lamest thing you can do to try to get a game company to bend to your (incredibly ignorant) will is proclaim that you're going to withhold from them enough cash for a crappy seat at a Britney Spears concert per month. Then it get's lamer when you profess to know EVEN more people who shall withhold their Britney Spears tickets too.
You know you aren't quitting. People who really quit do so QUIETLY. You're simply trying to Extort CCP but aren't honest enough to admit it. Which oddly enough would make your quitting (which again, you know you aren't going to do) a good reason why you wouldn't be missed.
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Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
210
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:16:00 -
[31] - Quote
giff stuffs then door that way ---->
and as celebration of you leaving I will go and get a few GTCs from them and blow it on something shiny |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1004
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:18:00 -
[32] - Quote
Quote:The lamest thing you can do to try to get a game company to bend to your (incredibly ignorant) will is proclaim that you're going to withhold from them enough cash for a crappy seat at a Britney Spears concert per month. Then it get's lamer when you profess to know EVEN more people who shall withhold their Britney Spears tickets too.
You know you aren't quitting. People who really quit do so QUIETLY. You're simply trying to Extort CCP but aren't honest enough to admit it. Which oddly enough would make your quitting (which again, you know you aren't going to do) a good reason why you wouldn't be missed.
Emphasis mine. You whipped out the whole Britney Spears thing entirely too quickly if you ask me. Someone has/had teenage daughters...
That, or you are entirely too familiar with the topic. Not sure which yet.
Oh, and OP? In the event that your continuity of gameplay has in actuality reached it's finality, then please consider contributing to a gratuity towards myself or any of my duly elected representatives pro gratis.
Salutations upon a latter date. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa
The Perfect Harvesting Experience
88
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:19:00 -
[33] - Quote
Dramatic drama is dramatic! |
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ISD Cura Ursus
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
259

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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:23:00 -
[34] - Quote
Moved thread to OOPE, which is where quit threads go. ISD Cura Ursus Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:23:00 -
[35] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Bye, I'll follow suit in a few weeks... for the most expensive, subscription based game in the market, it simply is too lacing in too many ways... and the mew, "future vision" CCP seams to have right now will not make that any better. Funny. It costs me the same as World of Warcraft - on a very bad month. Most months it costs me no real money at all. |

Josilin du Guesclin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
118
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:24:00 -
[36] - Quote
Double post. :( |

Eli Green
The Arrow Project
703
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:25:00 -
[37] - Quote
I don't get it. I come back from a half-year break from the forums, and this stuff still ends up on the only decent board wumbo |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
49551
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:31:00 -
[38] - Quote
I love the Tears from people who hate that they cannot be the biggest scumbag trolling a**hole in New Eden.
Good Riddance, and let The Door spank you on your way out. Why do bikers wear leather ??-á Because chiffon wrinkles too easily.-á -- Paul Lynde |

Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:50:00 -
[39] - Quote
That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. |

Josie solo
Singular Motives
4
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:52:00 -
[40] - Quote
gimme ur stuffz, you commie. |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1700
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:57:00 -
[41] - Quote
Nick Curso wrote:Iwan Pawlow wrote:stuffz, can haz I??? ..... To be fair, we should have a lottery for his stuff. Administered by Somer maybe. |

Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
272
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:57:00 -
[42] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Bye, I'll follow suit in a few weeks... for the most expensive, subscription based game in the market, it simply is too lacing in too many ways... and the mew, "future vision" CCP seams to have right now will not make that any better.
Leave now instead "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |

Clue 3K
Ship Spinning Industries
12
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Posted - 2013.09.27 14:59:00 -
[43] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye. I thought I saw you posting making fun of those bitching about the ships being introduced and the 3rd party ordeal? Was that all sarcasm or is this another stupid trolling by you? I'm only on this because my main, Tron 3K, is banned till 9/30/2013! Don't give me any likes! |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4692
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:27:00 -
[44] - Quote
Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues.
If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine.
If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too.
I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Multor Kaston
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:33:00 -
[45] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling.. This is exactly it.
Whether it's changes to the UI, enforcing the TOS or how they hand out prizes... they constantly make the wrong, illogical decision.
I as well will never give them 1 cent of mine again. I can just take about 30% of my earnings (if even) and buy the PLEX on my own while I still want to keep playing.
The nail in the coffin is how they play favorites. It's as you said: A nobody can get permabanned for the most minor of infractions, but a somebody can get a slap on the wrist for committed the worst of infractions.
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Tractus Vesica
Hounds Of War WHY so Seri0Us
11
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:39:00 -
[46] - Quote
Lee Saisima wrote:Well, I've had enough. CCP has made their position clear. The CSM was set up as an interface between their company and us, the playerbase. It has failed miserably. Now it's about who you know in the game, or in the development team. If you know someone inside CCP, you get a free pass. If you are an influential player in the game, or sit at a position of privilege, you get a free pass. The terms of service are interpreted by CCP as they see fit; terms of service are there to be enforced, not interpreted. At the same time, a nobody in the game can be perma-banned without warning under the guise of terms of service enforcement, but members of CCP openly admit that they do not enforce other clauses in their terms of service. CCP has taken the tagline for EVE, "be the villain", and applied it to their management philosophy. No doubt, in a few hours, an ISD lackey or a GM will simply lock this thread as another example of "enforcing" their terms of service. The SOMER Blink fiasco is the last straw for a loyal customer who no longer believes in the integrity of a developer that has been dying from the inside out.
I'm cancelling my sub and it ends on October 18th. I have four accounts and pay -ú9.99 / month. So that's -ú39.96 / month CCP will now be losing. I personally know about half a dozen other guys, some also with multiple accounts, who are also considering letting go of the game.
It's not that I'm QQ-ing about a decision I don't like (or is anyone else for that matter). It's the unrelenting, consistent, throw-it-in-your-face level of incompetence that CCP continues to express in its' decision-making. Even the simplest of moves now seem to leave CCP stumbling. Perhaps they should re-consider Youtube as an employment platform?
So, here I am (for < a month more), and I am asking, seriously, for a stand to be made. Search your own hearts and seriously consider whether you are happy handing over the money you spend the hours in your day making to a company that think's you are something to poke with a stick, a cash-cow. If you are not, please stop, else this will become their business model for the next ten years.
Goodbye.
Translation: I'm a whiny *****.
Paranoia is the glue which binds 0.0 together. |

Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:47:00 -
[47] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues. If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine. If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too. I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time.
I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care. With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4692
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Posted - 2013.09.27 15:59:00 -
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Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues. If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine. If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too. I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time. I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care. With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive. That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone.
No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
107
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:11:00 -
[49] - Quote
From what I learned in a marketing course I once took, apparently 96% of unhappy customers donGÇÖt complain, however 91% of those will simply leave and never come back.
I think OP is providing CCP a service by giving them "feedback" on why he is leaving.  |

Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:23:00 -
[50] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues. If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine. If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too. I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time. I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care. With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive. That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone. No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free.
The continue your way i'll do the same, thanks. |

Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
30711
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Posted - 2013.09.27 16:35:00 -
[51] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Reckless Ourtomineng wrote:That's why eve has become so bad look at all posters above, they support CCP even when they serve us a crapload of bullshit without even calling it meat... I feel your pain op. Yes, CCP needs to put a bit more thought into their official stance on a couple of relatively minor issues. If the OP feels that is worth quitting over, that's fine. If the other posters feel he is over reacting and playing it for the drama, that's fine too. I doubt your going to find much support for the statement "that's why EVE has become so bad". I think most of us feel that overall EVE is a great game, and getting better all the time. I don't need support, you clearly didn't go read the two other sticky threads in GD... or maybe you just don't care. With all these things happening you find the time to even congratulate CCP ? Wow impressive. That would be because my focus is the game and the enjoyment I get from it, not how a TOS is worded (remember, enforcement hasn't changed) or if CCP chose a questionable way to insert a grand total of 5 ships into the game. Both of these issues will have zero (even potential) effect on all but the tiniest fraction of players in the game, and the reality of it is they likely won't affect anyone. No, I'm not much for pointless emo rage. I'd rather point out where things might be done differently and then carry on with more important matters.... but if you feel like going on a crusade, feel free. I cannot "like" your post enough, Ranger. Thank you.
However, I will point out that in the rage of all the people threatening to quit, if you donate all your items and isk to me, I will distribute them as prizes for listeners of the podcast. I can assure you that the items will be destroyed in a manner that CCP will find repugnant, thus "Sticking It To The Man".
Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |

Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
526
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:17:00 -
[52] - Quote
Don't worry; they'll be back.  No one puts that much effort into a 'goodbye' that they really mean. If they meant it, they'd have just un-sub'd and been gone; no muss, no fuss, over and done. CCP, debuff Barges, or buff Ganking. Either will do for me, but we need more Yaaar! in this game lest it become WoW in Spaaaaace! -á~ Me |

Zoe Kaltana
Kaltana Bloodhorses
2890
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:18:00 -
[53] - Quote
I always understood myself as an isk-shitting-cash-cow...don't be so insulting to mee! OOPE Pinup Calendar application thread
The Kaltana Blood Horse Tribe: www.my-eve.com/corporation/Kaltana%20Industries |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
32245
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Posted - 2013.09.27 17:20:00 -
[54] - Quote
The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Zoe Kaltana
Kaltana Bloodhorses
2890
|
Posted - 2013.09.27 17:23:00 -
[55] - Quote
omg s***!!
...stuffz? ...pleaze? OOPE Pinup Calendar application thread
The Kaltana Blood Horse Tribe: www.my-eve.com/corporation/Kaltana%20Industries |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
591
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:01:00 -
[56] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.
This...
But, Stoofs yours i can Haz? |

Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
108
|
Posted - 2013.09.27 19:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero.
Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!! |

Tollen Gallen
Xionworld
592
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Posted - 2013.09.27 19:16:00 -
[58] - Quote
Random Majere wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!!
Zimmy wont mind you contracting it all to me for safe keeping  |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1705
|
Posted - 2013.09.27 21:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
Random Majere wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!! ::Slurps in accidental drool, acts casual:: Interesting. What kind of, [ahem] stuff? |

Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
82
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:19:00 -
[60] - Quote
Awww, you don't want me to blow up your ship anymore? Fine...I'll look for others in the next expansion  My adventure blog: http://lonewolfadventures.wordpress.com/ |

Wingmate
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
147
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:31:00 -
[61] - Quote
i'm confused. people pay for their accounts? i am rarely in-game and can still afford to use plexes for all three of my subs without draining my finances in any appreciable way. |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
32340
|
Posted - 2013.09.28 07:48:00 -
[62] - Quote
Random Majere wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!!
As much as I appreciate the offer, I am afraid I cannot accept it.
I cannot endorse anyone from Nulli leaving this game. It isn't over yet, war is coming and everybody knows it.
Maybe not within the next few months, but New Eden WILL burn and you guys will be the world's last and only hope for reason and justice.
So if you are burned out now, just take a break for a few months- but do come back so we can die together again.
Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Reckless Ourtomineng
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
|
Posted - 2013.09.28 10:24:00 -
[63] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Random Majere wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!! As much as I appreciate the offer, I am afraid I cannot accept it. I cannot endorse anyone from Nulli leaving this game. It isn't over yet, war is coming and everybody knows it. Maybe not within the next few months, but New Eden WILL burn and you guys will be the world's last and only hope for reason and justice. So if you are burned out now, just take a break for a few months- but do come back so we can die together again.
Test alliance best alliance... |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1709
|
Posted - 2013.09.30 14:03:00 -
[64] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Random Majere wrote:Zimmy Zeta wrote:The saddest thing is that I got to post in this thread so late that the chance of actually getting any stuff is next to zero. Well, this account is almost expired so...I guess I could give you my stuff. I got lots!!! As much as I appreciate the offer, I am afraid I cannot accept it. I cannot endorse anyone from Nulli leaving this game. It isn't over yet, war is coming and everybody knows it. Maybe not within the next few months, but New Eden WILL burn and you guys will be the world's last and only hope for reason and justice. So if you are burned out now, just take a break for a few months- but do come back so we can die together again.
That's the right spirit! And that last line belongs in your sig Zimmy. |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
32542
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Posted - 2013.09.30 19:01:00 -
[65] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote: That's the right spirit! And that last line belongs in your sig Zimmy.
"So if you are burned out now, just take a break for a few months- but do come back so we can die together again. " ?
Hmm...well, thank you very much, but nah, I don't think that would make a decent sig. Just think of how bad an average post by me is, and then realize half of them are even worse |

Xeen Du'Wang
Knights of the Black Watch
11
|
Posted - 2013.10.01 11:16:00 -
[66] - Quote
Jack Miton wrote:You mean the somer blink fiasco where ccp listened to what players said and changed what theyre doing based on it and that would have had and will have zero impact on the game in any way? sure, i can see why you'd quit over that.
zero impact?
They created NEW ships to become the priceless super rares.
Gave a for profit gambling corp the ISK to start an Empire. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
6065
|
Posted - 2013.10.01 20:57:00 -
[67] - Quote
..wait...how am I not in on this thread already? anyways, here it goes..
If you only unsub, it pretty much tells everyone you will be back. CCP has no reason to listen to you because you are leaving all of your stuff and toons intact and ready for resub and to give them more money. Now, if you want everyone, and CCP, to take you seriously, take all of your stuff and self destruct it publically, and when all your stuff is gone, BIOMASS ALL THE TOONS. once the account is clear of assets and toons, then you can UNSUB ALL THE THINGS. Doing it this way actually shows that you are mad enough to not come back.
Unsubbing without biomassing is like a 3 year old laying in the aisle at walmart throwing a tantrum. Sure, we all hear you and we know youre upset, but were all going to ignore you.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
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