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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:15:00 -
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Can a bombageddon (armageddon with all large smartbombs) destroy and pod an Enyo user in high sec before CONCORD blows it up?
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:17:00 -
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yeh it shud.. plate it just in case
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migwar
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:17:00 -
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Not sure but....if i flew an enyo in empire id be keeping my eyes open for any geddons getting too close 
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Gronsak on 18/01/2006 12:17:48 definitly
2 EM [600em dmg]. 6 Explosive [1800exp dmg].
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:18:00 -
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1 EM, 6 explosive should do the ship (even if it's plated) should do the ship, and I can't remember which smartbomb you need to one-shot a pod
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 18/01/2006 12:24:53
Explosive Smartbombs x8 = 2400 damage
Enyo with good skills = 400~ shields, 1000~ armour
Enyo taking into account resistances = 1000~ shields, 1100~ armour
Even accounting for rounding in those approx calculations, you've still got 300 damage to play with, so you'd instapop an enyo that wasnt 200mm+ plated.
Edit: For some reason I read your post as all the same smartbombs..../shrug
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:26:00 -
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that's why you do a single em first - strips off 90% of the shields and leaves it ready for 6 explosive smartbombs :)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul that's why you do a single em first - strips off 90% of the shields and leaves it ready for 6 explosive smartbombs :)
I know i didnt read the post properly the first time, but geddon *does* have 8 hislots, doesnt it?
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:35:00 -
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Nope. I think the geddon has 7 and the apoc 8
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: Testy Mctest on 18/01/2006 14:40:00
Originally by: Joerd Toastius Nope. I think the geddon has 7 and the apoc 8
I thought it just had 7 turret hardpoints.
Edit: and the item database agrees.
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Terradoct
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius Nope. I think the geddon has 7 and the apoc 8
slot layout h-m-l geddon 8-3-8 apoc 8-4-7
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest
Originally by: Sarmaul that's why you do a single em first - strips off 90% of the shields and leaves it ready for 6 explosive smartbombs :)
I know i didnt read the post properly the first time, but geddon *does* have 8 hislots, doesnt it?
yep - the final smartbomb is for the pod
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Edited by: Testy Mctest on 18/01/2006 14:40:00
Originally by: Joerd Toastius Nope. I think the geddon has 7 and the apoc 8
I thought it just had 7 turret hardpoints.
Edit: and the item database agrees.
Smartbombs aren't turrets.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:56:00 -
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Excellent. In that case I'm off to Jita to collect a certain thief's 67 million isk bounty 
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Zark Brassen
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Posted - 2006.01.18 14:57:00 -
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Why would you even consider losing a Battleship to concord to pod someone in secure space?
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zark Brassen Why would you even consider losing a Battleship to concord to pod someone in secure space?
Because someone is annoying and deserves to be podded?.. i can name a few who deserves it.
/Mav
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Oriana Fallaci
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:04:00 -
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is there a reason why this should work only with amarr ships? Wouldnt tempest be equally suited for the task, and even be faster to close in on the enyo?
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Oriana Fallaci is there a reason why this should work only with amarr ships? Wouldnt tempest be equally suited for the task, and even be faster to close in on the enyo?
because he doesn't have any other bs skills?
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Maximus Wolf
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Oriana Fallaci is there a reason why this should work only with amarr ships? Wouldnt tempest be equally suited for the task, and even be faster to close in on the enyo?
Geddon is only 60 mil now.
Max
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:23:00 -
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Meh.
/apocpilot
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Testy Mctest Edited by: Testy Mctest on 18/01/2006 14:40:00
Originally by: Joerd Toastius Nope. I think the geddon has 7 and the apoc 8
I thought it just had 7 turret hardpoints.
Edit: and the item database agrees.
Smartbombs aren't turrets.
Yes, and I was pointing out that that the ship had 8 his for mounting smartbombs in?
Reading whole threads ftw.
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zark Brassen Why would you even consider losing a Battleship to concord to pod someone in secure space?
1) a long time ago he ripped off a hauler full of stuff when entrusted with it from my corpmates
2) he tried to collect his own bounty but got caught so he can't now
3) I happen to know he has a full set of +5 implants
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.18 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Testy Mctest Reading whole threads ftw.
What kind of crazy notion is this? Reading the whole thread and being better informed before replying? On the forums? Never! :p (point taken, I misunderstood)
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.18 16:45:00 -
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let us know how it works out ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Calderio
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Posted - 2006.01.18 16:48:00 -
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revenge 4tw ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.01.18 16:50:00 -
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if you arent sure that it will work, bring a alt/friend in a maller with 6 medium smartbombs.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.01.18 17:34:00 -
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Well I just did the math in my head, with out logging in, but I think you can lose a geddon fitted with 8 bomb, a MWD, and perhaps a plate for around 15 million, assuming you insured it.
So anyone who has a bounty more then that can and will be poped for a profit. Not to mention I know a few people who deserve to die, and 15 million isn't to much of a cost to do it.
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FlyinFish Shriker
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Posted - 2006.01.18 18:26:00 -
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Now I'm going to buy an alt with those skills. ------------------------------------------- "Death is just the beginning..." |

ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.01.18 19:21:00 -
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You'll prolly have enough time for 2 smatbomb cycles before you die to concord so remember to scramble/web 
Goodluck 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.01.18 19:29:00 -
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Actualy you will definately lose your ship so I don't think it's an exploit.... if you managed not to lose the ship somehow then yes it would be.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.01.18 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: ElCoCo Actualy you will definately lose your ship so I don't think it's an exploit.... if you managed not to lose the ship somehow then yes it would be.
correct - as long as concord gets him in the end, it's not an exploit.
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Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:05:00 -
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Indeedy... You'll take a hefty sec hit, but sometimes its worth it. Like shooting a mafia boss as he walks out of court. You know he's guilty as sin, but the system doesn't punish him.
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Mowz
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Silpha Indeedy... You'll take a hefty sec hit, but sometimes its worth it. Like shooting a mafia boss as he walks out of court. You know he's guilty as sin, but the system doesn't punish him.
K there, batman
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Jezala
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jezala on 18/01/2006 20:19:13
Originally by: ElCoCo You'll prolly have enough time for 2 smatbomb cycles before you die to concord so remember to scramble/web 
Goodluck 
Concord fires approximately every 1.5 secs. The first volley will strip your shields, the next 2-3 will take your armor. Then it takes another 1-2 volleys to burn through the hull.
Without hardners, extenders, and 1600 plates you can expect to last about 10 secs. If you deck out in shield hardeners and 1600 plates, your survival time increases to 20+ seconds. I'm not too sure but I think the drone trick still works, so toss out some drones for Concord and the turrents to shoot at...that'll buy you 3-4 seconds I think.
In all, you'll have plenty of time to get off 2 volleys of smartbombs and if you tank the ship you can probably smartbomb 4-5 times. More than enough for an assualt frig or a cruiser.
Just don't forget during all the excitement to turn on Fraps, this is something you definitly want to record.
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jezala I'm not too sure but I think the drone trick still works, so toss out some drones for Concord and the turrents to shoot at...that'll buy you 3-4 seconds I think.
You will kinda have killed your drones with the smartbombs no? 
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minnmirman
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:38:00 -
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I dont understand why this would be considered an exploit?
Just because someone sin high sec space doesnt mean they should always be safe at all times, does it?
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2006.01.18 20:42:00 -
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Killing someone is not an exploit unless you manage to get away without dying to CONCORD.
You kill the person, and lose your ship, mods, and get a massive sec hit.
I Make Sigs
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Berrik Radhok
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Posted - 2006.01.18 22:50:00 -
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Yeah, but I get the insurance money back, the huge bounty, and a lot of angry hate mail, so I win either way 
(I better train up energy pulse weapons before I do this so my smartbombs cycle faster)
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.01.19 08:51:00 -
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search for 'miz' and 'war on concord' for a geddon setup with 8sb. I think he used shield extenders to get in a second cycle on the sb. -- Originally by: Nyphur The irony is astounding. The sheer level of raw irony here is enough to iron my clothes for a year.
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Cherio
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Posted - 2006.01.19 10:04:00 -
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What about ejecting from the armageddon after you make the kill. Would that make Concord only kill your pod? Then you can have a mate pick it up afterwards.
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CelticKnight
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Posted - 2006.01.19 10:16:00 -
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Nope tried that trick on SISI. they shoot ya ship to peices and ignore ya pod (concord dont pod..)
Originally by: Stealthy I am simply mortified Ginger Magician's alt is now advising folks in POS operations-is it the end of player piracy as we know it?

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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.01.19 10:17:00 -
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CONCORD don't pod, and I think they BBQ your ship whether you're in it or not. -- Originally by: Nyphur The irony is astounding. The sheer level of raw irony here is enough to iron my clothes for a year.
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Matrices Reborn
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Posted - 2006.01.19 18:03:00 -
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Actually, batman didn't kill the guy who killed his parents who left the court, you misinterpreted it when you watched the film. Batman has a gun in his hand but the mob boss sent out a hitman to kill the guy in court because he was an informant, and the hitman kills him first. Later Batman ties the mob boss to the big flashlight.
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2006.01.19 18:59:00 -
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Fraps it.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.01.19 19:00:00 -
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good luck with your revenge o/
use named smarties if you wanna be 100% sure of it working
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