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Rhyonda Mcklenn
Caldari Deep Space Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:25:00 -
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First, CCP destroys my ability to make a living doing hisec explor for profit by flooding the market and making it worthless. Fine, I move on to mining and PI.
Now CCP is going to let griefers overtax the alredy highly taxed PI in hisec. Gee, thanks, but no thanks. Don't have time for it anymore.
WTF CCP? War on teh carebears? Do you people even think about the consequences on players? |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
2973
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:38:00 -
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Don't cry about being over taxed.
Do the right thing and become one of those 'griefers'. Then you can laugh at all the people who are like you are now.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Radelix Cisko
Patriot Security Services
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:42:00 -
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First they made the tier BC's for better ganking miners
I said nothing cause I didn't mine.
Then they changed exploration and pushed more of it to lowsec
I said nothing cause I could move on
They are taking away our poco's and I can't say anything cause I refuse to fight for my income.
I hear level IV missions still pay out well. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:43:00 -
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Competition between your future landlords should lead to acceptable taxes. If people 'overtax' their clients, they will move on to greener pastures or cease doing PI until prices for planetary goods rise enough to make it worthwhile again.
You know... morons. |
SpoonRECKLESS
LOGI R Us
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:46:00 -
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Grr GRR hurdur Bur I don't like unfair games.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:51:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:Now CCP is going to let griefers [snip]
Griefing will get you banned by the GMs and quite rightly, too. I think what you mean to say is "CCP are going to provide a new opportunity for players to do ne
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
583
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:51:00 -
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Dagflabbit. Stupid forum. 
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |
PotatoOverdose
SONS of LEGION
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:53:00 -
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Repost from other thread:
Honestly, owning a poco really isn't lucrative. There are many hundreds of planets within a 10 jump radius of jita or any other market hub. No one isn't going to bother controlling them all, it just isn't worth the time.
A single player will make more from running a 7/10 or doing a few hacking/archaeology sites than two weeks worth of revenue from a poco. A lot more.
And that assume Lowsec/Nullsec/Wormholes where the yields are actually good. Really, I wouldn't worry about this. |
Athelas Loraiel
StarFleet Enterprises
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:54:00 -
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if you PI in high sec, you must be doing it wrong. |
Rhyonda Mcklenn
Caldari Deep Space Academy
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:03:00 -
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Athelas Loraiel wrote:if you PI in high sec, you must be doing it wrong.
Naw, I'm aware of the differences. Its a question of time. Don't have the time for low/wh/null or pvp. I've seen the PI strangulation that goes on with capturable customs. No thanks. I just don't see the point of CCP doing stuff like this. How does it make the game better? It certainly makes it worse for a casual who only has a couple hours each week. |
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Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:10:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:Athelas Loraiel wrote:if you PI in high sec, you must be doing it wrong. Naw, I'm aware of the differences. Its a question of time. Don't have the time for low/wh/null or pvp. I've seen the PI strangulation that goes on with capturable customs. No thanks. I just don't see the point of CCP doing stuff like this. How does it make the game better? It certainly makes it worse for a casual who only has a couple hours each week.
It makes the game better by offering new gameplay options and more opportunities to interact in the sandbox.
If you dislike the taxes given, take the POCO back. If you can't, hire someone to do it for you. If interacting with others is too distasteful for you, I recommend a single player game like the "X" series.
Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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That Seems Legit
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:10:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:First, CCP destroys my ability to make a living doing hisec explor for profit by flooding the market and making it worthless. Fine, I move on to mining and PI.
Now CCP is going to let griefers overtax the alredy highly taxed PI in hisec. Gee, thanks, but no thanks. Don't have time for it anymore.
WTF CCP? War on teh carebears? Do you people even think about the consequences on players?
Simple solution. gtfo of highsec and start playing the real game or quit and take your goddamn crying with you.
Damns - you're ugly - and that's a compliment from me.
-Large Collidable Object
Seeking donations for facial reconstructive surgery, every little bit helps! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16687
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:15:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:Now CCP is going to let griefers overtax the alredy highly taxed PI in hisec. No, but chances are that the highsec PI:ers willGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
426
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:25:00 -
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You do know that you can get a bunch of guys together, form a corp and wardec the offending corp that droped the offensive POCO, kill it and raise your own instead, but that would require effort and cost ISKies. You know what why don't you just whine on the forums or something, that would take less effort than you seem to be willing to put out about this.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:51:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Don't cry about being over taxed. Do the right thing and become one of those 'griefers'. Then you can laugh at all the people who are like you are now. Mr Epeen
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Eggs Ackley
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:52:00 -
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Carebears are parasitic. They only want to take without giving back. "No Effort!" is their motto.
"Oooh some mean person with ambition will take the Customs Offices and make me pay." God forbid you get some friends (have any?) and take over a customs office yourself.
Look at this as an opportunity. Because it is.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
744
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:52:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:that would take less effort than you seem to be willing to put out about this.
This seems very important to you.
Hi-sec means that much to you huh?
Poor guy.
Bob is the god of Wormholes.
That's all you need to know. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
744
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:54:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote: by offering new gameplay options and more opportunities to interact in the sandbox.
In hi-sec.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAa!
You really should be ashamed of putting that out in public.
Really.
Bob is the god of Wormholes.
That's all you need to know. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
1620
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:57:00 -
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Eggs Ackley wrote:God forbid you get some friends (have any?) and take over a customs office yourself.
And that is exactly the problem. They never look at something like this and think, 'Maybe we should get some POCOs and set ourselves a 0% tax rate.' They instead look for someone else to victimize them.
Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
745
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:59:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Eggs Ackley wrote:God forbid you get some friends (have any?) and take over a customs office yourself. And that is exactly the problem. They never look at something like this and think, 'Maybe we should get some POCOs and set ourselves a 0% tax rate.' They instead look for someone else to victimize them.
This seems very important to you.
Bob is the god of Wormholes.
That's all you need to know. |
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:59:00 -
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Sounds like a universe ripe for tax rebellion to me.
AKA: CCP is trying to get you to fight for what you want.
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
...end transmission... |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4107
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:01:00 -
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How long will it take my 1000 DPS Oracle to take down a POCO?
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
1620
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:03:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:How long will it take my 1000 DPS Oracle to take down a POCO?
A little while. Bring a half dozen and make a garden party out of it.
Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruiting pilots for lowsec solo & small gang operations. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
Cosmic Consortium
4107
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:07:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:How long will it take my 1000 DPS Oracle to take down a POCO? A little while. Bring a half dozen and make a garden party out of it.
Don't forget the 24 hour reinforcement timer, aka 24 hour advance notice for the defender to arrange a defense fleet to meet you :)
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
102
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:07:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:Athelas Loraiel wrote:if you PI in high sec, you must be doing it wrong. Naw, I'm aware of the differences. Its a question of time. Don't have the time for low/wh/null or pvp. I've seen the PI strangulation that goes on with capturable customs. No thanks. I just don't see the point of CCP doing stuff like this. How does it make the game better? It certainly makes it worse for a casual who only has a couple hours each week.
my alt does Pi in low sec with a mammoth. i should really buy her some more SP for the PI industrial ship but really i can't be bothered. the taxes are way lower than high sec and the planets give more stuff. the mwd/cloak trick works fine at gates and the multiple wcs have allowed me to warp out of every tackle so far. I don't see how it takes more time than high sec PI or how it is harder. The same alt did PI in null and when we redeploy back to null will do it again in null most likely in the same stupid mammoth. the industrial would have to be blown up many many times for it to make less sense than high sec.
If you can't handle the minor increase in risk then basically you are complaining that either the taxes on your planet will stay the same as no one will bother replacing the CO or that they are about to get lower as competition for taxes and low desire to attend an attacked structure drive taxes down as they did in low sec.
Stop crying about stuff that will make things better for you even though you are clearly unwilling to do anything for yourself. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1259
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:09:00 -
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Rhyonda Mcklenn wrote:Athelas Loraiel wrote:if you PI in high sec, you must be doing it wrong. Naw, I'm aware of the differences. Its a question of time. Don't have the time for low/wh/null or pvp. I've seen the PI strangulation that goes on with capturable customs. No thanks. I just don't see the point of CCP doing stuff like this. How does it make the game better? It certainly makes it worse for a casual who only has a couple hours each week.
What do CCP's actions tell you what they think of the casual player?
Let's see:
Ore mining prices inexorably sinking due to new massive null sec supplies.
High sec ice mining no longer available whenever someone logs on, and must be timed to the minute.
High sec PI profitability being hammered (unless you control the POCO).
Do you not think CCP is aware of the repercussions of these attacks on high sec?
What can you infer about the future of the casual player from these actions?
It appears that the lone CSM member that was elected on the platform of defending the interests of the casual high sec player has failed miserably.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
102
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:10:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:How long will it take my 1000 DPS Oracle to take down a POCO? A little while. Bring a half dozen and make a garden party out of it. Don't forget the 24 hour reinforcement timer, aka 24 hour advance notice for the defender to arrange a defense fleet to meet you :)
CO make such tiny isk that no one wants to have to defend these often. The only reason to shoot them is stupid high tax or dislike of owners. The owners will try to not fall into either camp as repping structures is not a way to boost corp morale. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2897
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:10:00 -
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Lfod Shi wrote:Sounds like a universe ripe for tax rebellion to me.
AKA: CCP is trying to get you to fight for what you want.
And that never works, because the kind of people who can't be bothered to risk useless pixels outside of hi-sec aren't the type of players who will fight IN hi-sec for anything. It's just not in their nature.
How anyone can be so feeble as to let people own them that much in a video game without even a token fight is beyond my ability to understand. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1259
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:13:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:How long will it take my 1000 DPS Oracle to take down a POCO?
10 million HP.
10 Oracles take one down in 1000 seconds, or 18 minutes.
And when the null sec cartel fleets arrive, they will be a whole lot bigger than 10 Oracles.
Try seeing POCO's pop in 2 minutes.
In a big system, you might not even be able to undock and warp to the POCO before it will be gone.
Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning.
The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
2897
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:13:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
It appears that the lone CSM member that was elected on the platform of defending the interests of the casual high sec player has failed miserably.
Good, because this is a sandbox mmo, and "might makes right" should always be a base rule of a sandbox. It's themepark MMOs that create artifical protections/comfort for players.
You are and have always been playing the wrong game, but your paranoia and warped perceptions just won't let you see that. |
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