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Shaa Ku
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:26:00 -
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Can`t decide wich ship to use. I am aiming to take down mostly other Assault Frigats as they are the most common ship in the 0,0 region were im based!
And also would like to get a T2 fitting that can take down even the best pilots  ! |
Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:32:00 -
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Vengeance will get you more kills, Retri will keep you alive longer
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Hectaire Glade
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:33:00 -
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I'll get in first before the usual crowd :)
Venegence is mildy good at lots of things, but not very good at anything.
Retribution is a fantastic ship except for the single middle slot, which basically means you will have a great deal of trouble either getting in range or stop your target getting away.
Eitherway, neither are great for 1:1, retribution is outstanding if you have friends to lock down for you.
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:40:00 -
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Retribution.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.01.19 17:49:00 -
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 Originally by: danneh
Retribution.
What, and hope he doesn't just.. warp out?
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Tamayo
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Posted - 2006.01.19 19:45:00 -
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I have both the Retribution and Vengeance AFs.
The one mid-slot in the Retribution is it's drawback for PvP. If you use a web/scrambler in the mid-slot, you give up speed. If you want the speed, your opponent can get away. However, I view a fleeing opponent as a win (even though, I don't get a can of goodies).
But, for sheer tanking and firepower, the Retribution is a good ship with 4 Medium Pulse II's and energized plating/hardeners.
The Vengeance can give you more options due to the mid-slots and the Launcher.
My advice, buy both  and play around with some different set-ups and see which you prefer for your play style.
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dicequeen
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Posted - 2006.01.19 22:56:00 -
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get retribution if you want kills, get vengeance if you want to die.
vengeance = t3h sux of AF
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slip66
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Posted - 2006.01.20 00:01:00 -
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ret.
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Aktar
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Posted - 2006.01.20 00:06:00 -
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Retribution all the way. With good gunnery and tank skills, it will destroy many AFs at close range.
If you are fighting another Frig, the scrambler is useless IMHO. The tracking on small pulse lasers is good enough to not really need a webber.
If they warp out, big deal, these are frigates anyways. Not like their loot is worth much.
Ak
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.20 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Originally by: danneh
Retribution.
What, and hope he doesn't just.. warp out?
The aim is generally to kill him before he gets the chance
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Furion35
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Posted - 2006.01.20 01:31:00 -
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The Retribution is the better ship imo but its hard to catch stuff. Sure you can fit a 20km in the mid but they can still fly out of range. Not saying that that would happen everytime but enough to make the Retribution less efficient for this purpose.
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Ackhillies
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Posted - 2006.01.20 01:59:00 -
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I've had a vengence sitting in my hanger for a long time and I never pull it out for pvp because it doesn't have any survivability. Go with the ret...use a 7.5km scram (named if you can) and hope he let's you close in. Worst case is a draw for me on the Retribution.
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Prall
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Posted - 2006.01.20 02:55:00 -
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agreed with all who say the retri is generally the better choice, if u can have a friend to lock down a target for you, your laughing. the retri will take other assault frigs at close range, with the possible exception of a well skilled blaster enyo pilot.
allthough the venge does have its uses, standard (as in unplated) its nots tough enough to kill anything tougher than a ceptor generally. Having said that its an awesome support ship if ur flying with maybe 2/3 hard hitting af's.
This sounds stupid but... try 3 X 200mm t2 autocannons and a light missile launcher with a MWD, web and scram, lows = repper, MAPC and a 400mm rolled tungsten plate, i've managed kill other assault frigs flown by far older pilots, also your HP can save you from cruisers. Also the venges cap recharge is v.nice so no cap mods are needed.
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Apoll
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Posted - 2006.01.20 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Prall
agreed with all who say the retri is generally the better choice, if u can have a friend to lock down a target for you, your laughing. the retri will take other assault frigs at close range, with the possible exception of a well skilled blaster enyo pilot.
allthough the venge does have its uses, standard (as in unplated) its nots tough enough to kill anything tougher than a ceptor generally. Having said that its an awesome support ship if ur flying with maybe 2/3 hard hitting af's.
This sounds stupid but... try 3 X 200mm t2 autocannons and a light missile launcher with a MWD, web and scram, lows = repper, MAPC and a 400mm rolled tungsten plate, i've managed kill other assault frigs flown by far older pilots, also your HP can save you from cruisers. Also the venges cap recharge is v.nice so no cap mods are needed.
Amen brother.
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Elaina Cosengo
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Posted - 2006.01.20 11:52:00 -
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both kinda suck imo but i'd say ret Vengence stinks for dmg
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Esaam DeVries
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:02:00 -
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I love my vengeance.
While it's indeed not a great damage dealer. It's a very nice support AF. With the sufficient engineering and mechanic skills, you can sustain the armor repair for a very long time even if you are nosed (not heavy nosed of course). So even if it doesn't make a lot of damage, it can deal it for a very long time.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:45:00 -
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The aim is generally to kill him before he gets the chance
With what? EM and thermal damage? You can't possibly be expecting to volley your target.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.20 16:21:00 -
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Not in one no. I've pretty much stripped the shields of a Rupture in one volley before, and it's got a mean RoF. You'd be surprised, and while you're busy being surprised I'm chewing through your armour.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.01.20 16:53:00 -
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Octavian Vanguard
Ah, that explains it all Nothing but respect for the Vanguard forces due to the theory of overwhealming damage versus unwaivering endurance.
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Shadow Mancer
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Posted - 2006.01.20 17:19:00 -
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DO NOT TRY to take on Wolf in your Retribution due to its high EM and Thermal resists. THe only way you can take out a wolf it's to actually wait till a Wolf pilot runs outta ammo. If he has 95% cargo full of EMP or Fusion ammo, u might well be stuck in a fight with him for over 5 hours.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.01.20 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
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Octavian Vanguard
Ah, that explains it all Nothing but respect for the Vanguard forces due to the theory of overwhealming damage versus unwaivering endurance.
:P
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