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Xio2
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:16:00 -
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rp sucks. i just want to shoot people and shoot some roids. i dont really give a darn about any faction hogwash. if my ship gets blown bc i enter a certain area of space im gonna be p.o.'ed. besides...isn't concord there for the protection of all?
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Sharcy
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:26:00 -
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 Originally by: Xio2
rp sucks. i just want to shoot people
Seems to me like you have a lack of fantasy. Why do you play EVE at all? Sounds like a shooting gallery would be enough for you. If you just want to shoot, there are better games out there than EVE.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.01.20 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xio2
rp sucks. i just want to shoot people and shoot some roids. i dont really give a darn about any faction hogwash. if my ship gets blown bc i enter a certain area of space im gonna be p.o.'ed. besides...isn't concord there for the protection of all?
If all you do is shoot roids, then you won't have any negative stangings and you can go wherever you want. But if you've run missions then someone's bound to not like you, just run some more missions to change it.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.01.20 14:34:00 -
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Amen.
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Adago Vilon
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Posted - 2006.01.20 14:59:00 -
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This whole idea sounds great!
So long have I been waiting to wage war against those amarr monkeys. I really hope CCP are looking into making this a possibility and hope it will include a lot more player interaction.
Definitely getting ahead of myself but I'm thinking of having special systems where people running missions from each race are thrown into battle against each other. Maybe have random pockets of deadspace (limited to frigates or destroyers depending on mission level) open up for an hour with a base. 1 race is attacking, another defending. Attackers would warp in at 100km (or a fair distance) and defenders at their base - the fight ensues. It'll end up being like counter strike capture the flag or something similar. Potentially lots of ship losses but it would be fun!
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DeepScarlet
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:25:00 -
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I see some negative side to this. You arn't going to get serious fleet battles in factional warfare, because there are alot of ppl who are going to join who won't have a clue, there won't be someone vetting apps and so any old 2 week old miner can join. Just sayin it's limited 
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:25:00 -
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I very much doubt CCP will force people into a cPvP war without them having a way to step aside.
What I suspect will happen is that corporations, alliances and individual players will be able to pledge themselves to one or the other side and by doing so will enter into a free war against anyone on the oposing side.
Thus for the majority of players that want to play the game casually not much will be different apart from getting to see alot more PvP fighting at gates and stations in highsec empire.
CCP knows that the majority of the EvE players are highsec casual players with little interest in being free targets, the Exodus patch showed that clear enough when all the changes that were thought would create a stream of players leaving highsec empire backfired and we saw a stream of players vacating 0.0 and lowsec to retreat into the security of highsec.
Any divide changing EvE into a realm cPvP game will cost CCP dearly as a large number of casual players will then leave as they can no longer have any safe haven to retreat to when it gets too hot.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.01.20 15:31:00 -
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Factional Warfare will need to take one thing into account.
Podding.
If one side can pod the other, then I cant really see it taking off, due to the high number of high sec players. If not, then heck, even the wimpyist carebear will be happy to load up a frig/cruiser and join!
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Adago Vilon
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Posted - 2006.01.20 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Adago Vilon on 20/01/2006 16:25:48
Originally by: DeepScarlet
I see some negative side to this. You arn't going to get serious fleet battles in factional warfare, because there are alot of ppl who are going to join who won't have a clue, there won't be someone vetting apps and so any old 2 week old miner can join. Just sayin it's limited
Well if you made the PvP missions a separate category (like Republic Fleet as opposed to Security, Surveillance etc), people could choose whether they want to get involved and by having it in deadspace you can limit the size of ship. So a level 2 mission allows up to cruiser or destroyer etc. This would limit the amount of loss newer players would face, give them a taste of pvp with the chance they can win (else no great loss).
It's a fair point you raise about people not having a clue, and fleet battles being limited. But on the other hand it might be exactly what CCP needs to get more people into 0.0. It would be a steap learning curve for very new players but it would be perfect for them to learn how to work together. After all, many people team up to do level 4's, so this would introduce that gang warfare at the lowest level missions potentially. Another bonus is that you can always quit the mission and be safe to do something else rather than getting stuck in low sec/0.0 many gate camps away from safety.
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Virida
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Posted - 2006.01.20 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Personally I can't wait for Factional Warfare, just got to persuade all the Gheyllentes in BNC that backing Caldari is the way to go 
Well,i though the same, actually, could be quite funny if Mindstar and black nova was doing an mish and maybe could end up flying side by side to do each our own objective in an larger conflict, and jump into an 0.4 "warzone" to do conquer for caldari.
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Leon 001
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Posted - 2006.01.20 17:51:00 -
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Please not a World of Warcraft "honor-grind". I already wasted several months grinding that stupid system to get my rank 12 Marshal. I don't want to have to repeat pointless 'honor farming' for EVE - would make it an entire grindage.
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Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.01.20 17:52:00 -
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ugh, stupid alt posting.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.20 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Xio2
rp sucks. i just want to shoot people and shoot some roids. i dont really give a darn about any faction hogwash. if my ship gets blown bc i enter a certain area of space im gonna be p.o.'ed. besides...isn't concord there for the protection of all?
Go play Counterstrike?
Seriously, there are more people in EVE than just yourself and a lot of them are looking forward to FW.
CONCORD's going down anyway, you'll see. 
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.01.21 00:28:00 -
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Im going to copy in something i wrote in another forum about this subject (and yes, it is dear to my war mongering RP heart)
Faction Warfare should be open to everyone. Leaving the death penalty as is will attract more PvP'ers looking for a kill, not less. And Yes, 0.0 should always be more profitable and fun. This is part of CCP's core design philospophy, they are not going to want to make this more attractive than going out into 0.0 space, that would ruin what they have been working for.
In short, i think faction warfare should be open for everyone, and it should be brutal. And the main draw of getting involved should be wanting to be a part of the Great Empire Wars(tm), not loot or rewards (not saying these shouldnt exist). It should not be a cut down version of anything, nor like level 4 missions which easy pickings drew people out of 0.0.
I dont want a playpen where me and my RP buddies get all cost together, i want other people to be drawn into it because it seems so damn cool to be fighting for a cause and a reason, fighting for your people, and i want people to be drawn into this and make names for themselves. Yes, i want more people into this. And if this is done so it screams 'Feck me, thats cool, i want a go of that' then that would be great. More the better getting involved in storylines etc is only a good thing in my book.
But it should be harsh and brutal. It should not give out great loot or isk. that is what 0.0 is for. Thats what id like to see.
I dont think it will appeal to the kids, but i think alot of people all over eve, including 0.0 love getting involved with events and storyline stuff. Not just for the loot.
MC did it, BoB are doing it, its all happening. Because its cool and its fun. This is why people get involved. Oh im sure a fair portion of people do it for loot. But EVE holds a very mature playerbase, and i feel a significant proportion of them, if this is done right, will be pulled right into it.
Imagine the possibilities, so many more people getting stuck in the storyline, so many more angles of roleplay, so much more!
Hell, that would be the coolest thing in EVE ever.
Just Imagine, really imagine it. Man...
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Selim
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Posted - 2006.01.21 01:48:00 -
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If they don't plan it right the Caldari will overrun the entire map, seeing as 2/5 characters are Caldari.
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.01.21 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
If they don't plan it right the Caldari will overrun the entire map, seeing as 2/5 characters are Caldari.
The problem with that being? Let's just invade all the other areas and SLAUGHTER them all, especially carebears muahahahahaa 
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
If they don't plan it right the Caldari will overrun the entire map, seeing as 2/5 characters are Caldari.
Which means the other 3/5th team up to get them!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:32:00 -
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If the faction you decide to fight for isn't related to your race then I highly doubt the caldari will be so much stronger.
Remember, caldari regions may be busy, but do the people that are in those hubs actually live there ? Are those the same people you'd be fearing most if there would be pvp factional warfare ?
Tbh, if a faction like BoB or G would throw it's weight in with the Amarr or any faction for a week or so that would already change the whole scene. I don't think this will be a pure mission-runner pve paradise at all.
If it is pure pve content, as in lvl 4's with a twist, then I'm gonna cry and then cancel my subs. Seriously.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.01.25 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
If it is pure pve content, as in lvl 4's with a twist, then I'm gonna cry and then cancel my subs. Seriously.
I dont think you'd be the only one to be quite honest, but without any info there's not much to say. Rumours ive heard arent too good, reduced death penalty for example, but there just rumours.
Oh yes, and please, stick evolution on the amarr side, id love to shoot some of you guys. I hear even Discy undocks nowadays :)
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.01.25 13:49:00 -
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Don't worry kids. I promise you that
a) Kali "war" is obligatory to participate
b) It will be seriously dull
c) We can't really get to have realistic all-out war against factions or such
d) It will just plain suck.
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Krakkan
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Posted - 2006.01.25 14:12:00 -
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waaar, kill the race huggers! atleast every corp made and players that wants to fight for their race gets something, you will probably be able to be a traitor anyway and continue with your gallante loving pve.. 
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