Currently the ammount of SP to train from level 1 to level 4 is only 17.7% of the total needed to train a skill, this means that 82.3% is in level 5 which makes for very long training times for one level, it could be possible to readjust the sp requirements for each level so the time is balanced throughout all 5 of the levels, tiered still, but distrubited. On a related note this change would renable the ship and module tiering that skill levels currently attempt to do.

That is true, and I am not suggesting change skill requirements for modules and ships, but in that said situation, what do you plan on doing during the 30 days it takes to train sentry drone interfacing 5 and then another 30 d.ays to heavy drone operation 5. Adjusting skill training time to something along the lines of
Level 1 = 1/15 SP
Level 2 = 2/15 SP
Level 3 = 3/15 SP
Level 4 = 4/15 SP
Level 5 = 5/15 SP

The SP requirements would not change for each skill, just the amount needed at eadh level. A little longer for level 1-3 and about the same for level 4 and a bit less for level 5.

Well I am a fairly new player, 4 months, when I started playing I was told that Eve Online was one of the hardest MMOs on the web, I have since found that it is not so much hard to play the game it is just the bordom of the experienced playerd that makes the game hard. Due to the easiness of skill training the game is already begining to run into the ground.

It would not seem all the opponets to this idea like instant results and don't want to have to work for anything, would rather buy isk than grind rocks, or run missions, shoot straight to there final ship passing by all ships inbetween without even looking at the quality of T1 ships, buy faction and meta level items because it is faster than training tour T2 items. If there are any players that like the idea I would like to hear what they have to say also.

Well I am a fairly new player, 4 months, when I started playing I was told that Eve Online was one of the hardest MMOs on the web, I have since found that it is not so much hard to play the game it is just the bordom of the experienced playerd that makes the game hard. Due to the easiness of skill training the game is already begining to run into the ground.

The massively diminishing returns is one of they most brilliant features of the EVE skill system.

Changing it would only have bad effects.

How does this change that it takes longer to train 5 than 4 and so on.
the only bad effects would be to players who want an alt right away

How does this change that it takes longer to train 5 than 4 and so on.

the only bad effects would be to players who want an alt right away

Under your scheme, training lvl V only takes 25% longer than lvl IV. Under the current scheme, in the time it takes to get to that lvl V, you can train at least for skills of the same rank to lvl IV (i.e. a far better use of your time). It means that lvl V cases to be a hard choice GÇö or even a downright stupid choice in some cases. It means that lvl V ceases to be a mark of specialisation.
No, the bad effect would be that all new players would become worthless until they had sat on their asses and done nothing until they're GÇ£worthyGÇ¥, unlike now, when a new player can start playing the game right out the gate. It would create a massive gap between older and newer players GÇö one that does not exist right now. It would mean the concept of GÇ£catching upGÇ¥ suddenly became something of a reality in EVE, whereas now, it's not really applicable to the skill system.

These are all very very bad things that drastically reduces the game quality for a large number of people. And you get nothing positive in return.

Well I am a fairly new player, 4 months, when I started playing I was told that Eve Online was one of the hardest MMOs on the web, I have since found that it is not so much hard to play the game it is just the bordom of the experienced playerd that makes the game hard. Due to the easiness of skill training the game is already begining to run into the ground.

Players who would take the hardest hit would be those that are less than 6 months old, a brand new player would not know any difference, it would be just part of the game, when I started playing captain quarters was just introduced, I had no knowledge of ship spinning and therefore had no care or understanding about the anger resulting from the loss of it. Players would adjust to this kind of a change, some would get angry and quit, but as I have noticed players who get angry and quit when core changes are made, generally would have quit due to any unfavorable change.

Currently it's possible for a new player to hop into a fleet and contribute by tackling after only a day or less. Under the proposed change new players would have to spend their first few weeks training the necessary skills. What might some do in those few weeks? Become bored and quit most likely. To say the players against this are only interested in instant gratification is grossly incorrect. Most of these players, myself included, would only benefit from such a change as we're at a point where the majority of skills still on the list are level 5 skills. CCP could only redistribute SP such that we retain skill levels we've already trained, in essence we'd get millions if not tens of millions worth of free SP, and a much shorter ride to level 5. We're against the change you propose because it serves no purpose, would be unfair to new players leading many to quit, and would actually dampen much of the final gratification of hearing "Skill training completed" on Heavy/sentry drones 5, drone interfacing 5, AWU 5, BC 5, Racial BS 5, etc.

If you're only four months old you have at least 6 months of training remaining to fully utilize your battleships . And that's only one race of battleships. And at the expense of every other ship type and activity in the game.

You are suggesting that a new player would have fun after maybe 4 hours of actual game time, let's face it nobody plays for 24a hours straight, then being thrown into what what has already been posted as the most challenging part of the game, while lacking the core skills to survive more than 30 seconds in the fight?

You are suggesting that a new player would have fun after maybe 4 hours of actual game time, let's face it nobody plays for 24a hours straight, then being thrown into what what has already been posted as the most challenging part of the game, while lacking the core skills to survive more than 30 seconds in the fight?

By adjusting the training times you would be in frigs and cruisers longer, there fore taking the time to learn to fly each ship be fore you went to a black ops, all the while you would most likely be running missions, getting standings, isk, and gear to fit your ship, you might even find a good corp that has a need for a skilled black ops pilot, where as current they could look at your age and see you went straight to a BO ship you would probally lack the experience to fly it well and loose a expensive ship, not because you didn't have the skills up, but because you never really learned how to fly.