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JinSanJong
Brethren Holdings
Brethren.
45
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:21:00 -
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So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.
Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh |
Kialopreyst
Hole Exploitation Inc.
Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:24:00 -
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2/10
No. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
116
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:28:00 -
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i am sure as soon as they remove small guns from the game and thus make the skill useless they will refund the SP until then why would or should they? |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
521
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:28:00 -
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Use those skills.
You can fly Frigates as well.
IF they had changed the skilsl all to rank 1, then yes I would like a compensation. But changing requisites of skilsl taht still work .. nope. |
Feer Truelight
159
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:31:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.
Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
Who says someone isn't using the lower tier turrets? Why refund something you actually use?
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Daimon Kaiera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
429
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:33:00 -
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Eve-O is great if you read it like satire.
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Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
520
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:36:00 -
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You wont get SP because you're not losing anything.
Your wasted time training for large guns isn't wasted because you can now use every single T2 gun of that class, something the players training right to large wont have.
If CCP give you SP back they're going to have to take away your medium and small spec skills.
Lieutenant Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District |
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
1223
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:43:00 -
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You should be thankful. CCP has given you a great "In my day...!" story to tell to nooblets as a bittervet. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
1240
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:45:00 -
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Kialopreyst wrote:2/10
No.
Just this
*removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
1136
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:48:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.
Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.
This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh Erm... No.
Explain to me how it's not fair. You an any other player will have the same training time, it's not like you are being delayed at all.
CCP makes changes to the game, this is just the way it goes. If they make something useless, then they will refund, but they won't refund because you may or may not have chosen to do things differently had this change been made in the past. And they've told us in advance this is coming so we can halt any in progress training if we feel the need. My guys will always train all levels of guns anyway so as the meta changes, so can I.
Adapt or die.
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Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:05:00 -
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NOT THIS **** AGAIN !
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH -.- |
Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
78
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:07:00 -
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Daimon Kaiera wrote:Eve-O is great if you read it like satire. For this, i grant you the status that enables you to carry a few of my babies. |
WhipDiddyWhip
EveCoPilot.
Northern Army.
5
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:11:00 -
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can someone link where ccp said about theses changes?
being a 4 month old player i like this idea, it already takes an age to just become effective at pvp, this should help new players fly ships they are actually interested in effectively instead of just staring at a skill queue for months |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
Filthy Bastards
1514
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:11:00 -
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I don't know about you but I actually use my skills. I don't train into Medium Pulses, then never touch small pulses again.
You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
356
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:15:00 -
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Which angle is worse - the original poster complaining about the change _or_ CCP deciding after ten plus years a change is suddenly necessary to help ~new~ players...? |
Lord LazyGhost
Pissed Every Night Including Sundays
100
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:16:00 -
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hahahaha poor you makes cross training for other BS sized guns easyer for me hahha love it |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
288
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:21:00 -
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Shut up.
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1253
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:24:00 -
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I also want my subscription fees refunded, please?
Nyan |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11914
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:30:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:not fair
You must be at least 13 years old to play EVE online.
1 Kings 12:11
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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1061
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:32:00 -
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A SP refund alone will not do as I trained many of these skills years ago.
I demand a SP refund with interest. I think 7.5% interest/month would be fair but I am open to negotiations on the exact number. |
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Loki O'Grady
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
7
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Posted - 2013.10.01 11:56:00 -
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WhipDiddyWhip wrote:can someone link where ccp said about theses changes?
being a 4 month old player i like this idea, it already takes an age to just become effective at pvp, this should help new players fly ships they are actually interested in effectively instead of just staring at a skill queue for months
Here you go, newbro - the latest devblog, in the section "Gunnery Tiercide" http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/license-to-kill-certificate-overhaul/ |
Daimon Kaiera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
433
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:00:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:A SP refund alone will not do as I trained many of these skills years ago.
I demand a SP refund with interest. I think 7.5% interest/month would be fair but I am open to negotiations on the exact number.
I think 15% is fair. :regdate08:
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
873
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Posted - 2013.10.01 12:51:00 -
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Loki O'Grady wrote:WhipDiddyWhip wrote:can someone link where ccp said about theses changes?
being a 4 month old player i like this idea, it already takes an age to just become effective at pvp, this should help new players fly ships they are actually interested in effectively instead of just staring at a skill queue for months Here you go, newbro - the latest devblog, in the section "Gunnery Tiercide" http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/license-to-kill-certificate-overhaul/
I think you should give CCP a hard drive storage space refund. |
Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation
The Cursed Few
679
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:02:00 -
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OP, please check out this youtube video that explains exactly what should be done:
What to do |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
403
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Posted - 2013.10.01 13:46:00 -
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There's going to be tears of new players rushing into and losing expensive battleships with t2 turrets and pathetic tanks. But otherwise, the change looks fine.
Remove insurance. |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
806
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:06:00 -
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-+ 28 Gunnery skills trained, for a total of 14,778,663 skillpoints.
-+ 16 skills trained to level 5, for a total of 13,824,000 skillpoints.
That my gunery sp on main, hell yea this took long time before i got so memy sp in support gunery and multiple spec lvl 5 like on med - big rails or med blasters +lv4 spec on med big lazorz, im proud of my self, is all depend your view on this game, personaly i love to train skills that are 30+ day long i dont care about time, because EvE is for years and still got big future, hovewer i agre with you that missile tree is like easy mode for skiliing, because with small amount of sp in missile you can be powerfull after short time, while to get strong gunnery boat people need to spent months years...
EvE isn't game, its style of living. |
JinSanJong
Brethren Holdings
Brethren.
45
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:34:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:JinSanJong wrote:not fair You must be at least 13 years old to play EVE online.
Did you think of that by yourself? Why dont you go do something useful mr CSM member? oh wait thats the problem YOU DONT do anything of use.
Typical trolls will troll, boring.... If your happy fine good for you, im not so deal with it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16735
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:48:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Malcanis wrote:JinSanJong wrote:not fair You must be at least 13 years old to play EVE online. Did you think of that by yourself? Why dont you go do something useful mr CSM member? He did something useful.
He pointed out that you're being very childish.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
11920
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Posted - 2013.10.01 14:52:00 -
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JinSanJong wrote:Why dont you go do something useful mr CSM member?
Is complaining that CCP have fixed a problem for others that I myself have long ago overcome 'useful' in your lexicon?
1 Kings 12:11
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3452
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Posted - 2013.10.01 15:00:00 -
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In my day, it took forever to train gunnery. And if your gunnery skills were too low, a t-rex would sneak into your hangar and eat your turrets! Uphill both ways!
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