Originally by: Nakbar

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I have been using your web site for a few weeks and its fantastic! One minor item to consider: Having a filter for security status of the system. [e.g. only show 0.5 or higher] While there are some islands of safe space, this would help me tremendously in planning my logistics

I'm a carebear at heart and running the pirate gauntlet for 200k isogen is not how I use your site.

Beyond that, awesome!

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Originally by: Shinhan

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My suggestion would be finding some corps that would like to advertise with EVE-Central. So, when somebody wants to buy an item that a said corp is selling, user will see at the top of his search results those prices. Of course corps that want to advertise would have to pay for the privilege

All in all, great idea!

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Originally by: Milodon

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I'm having problems with the uploader software. I try to run it and all I get is "The network appears to be down.... check your firewall settings."

I've turned my firewall off, set it to allow the program, I still can't get past that error message.

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Originally by: Milodon

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Yes, I'm coming from behind a proxy and that may be a problem. I'm using campus internet with a reroutable IP. However, the PCs at the computer lab had no problem with it, so I'm wondering if it's just the security setting on my wireless network at home.

However, I can access all of those *.txt files you listed in my browser, what does that mean?

Thanks in advance for the help

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Originally by: NiKunni Clerk

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Hi Kaldar,
i recive the following error from your tool:
Exception in thread Thread-52:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "threading.pyo", line 442, in __bootstrap
File "upload.pyo", line 47, in run
File "upload.pyo", line 81, in upload_data
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'upcount' referenced before assignment
Found in the evec_upload.exe.log

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Originally by: Eternal Fury

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Is there some way that you could post the regions of space, and how recently they've been updated.

I'm thinking that if it's possible to "rate" each item in a given regions time since it was updated, that we could log on each day, see that ohh.. Quafe in Lonetrek hasn't been updated in 2 days, and update that..

hell, even have an option to put in what region we're in, and have it spit out the top 5 most out of date items, so we can update them?

Dunno if it's even possible ;)

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Originally by: Valeo Galaem

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For the Market Uploader app, a humble request...

Please add an option to minimize to the task bar notification area. As it is, I find myself frequently closing the app by mistake when running/closing programs, and it just takes up valuable real estate in the task bar.

Don't know if this has already been recommended.

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Originally by: PotatoHead

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The only thing I'd like to see is the ability to make the program minimize to the program tray instead of the taskbar. I never need to maximize it, so it just takes up a space.

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Originally by: Mr Ratty

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never mind, not tried in game but out of game it does remember :)

Sytem security status on the market browser would be a godsend tho!

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Originally by: Frustin Jetswell

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If there was one thing i could change with the whole thing, it would be automatic "export to file". pressing that button everytime is a bit of an arse.

Apart from that, thanks for the work Kaladr, you're doing grand!

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Originally by: Indra Maire

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Thanks for the great site Kaladr.

I've noticed a minor bug you may not be aware of. When trying to price any sort of Datacore, it's difficult to determine exactly which Datacore's prices you are looking at. If you search for Datacore, you'll see multiple item types, but all with the same name.

It looks like you are parsing the market log filename correctly, since you have multiple entries, but I suspect some of the data display parsing is incorrect. This is probably due to not anticipating that an item name might include a dash. A sample name would be "Datacore - Plasma Physics" and "Datacore - Laser Physics".

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Originally by: Kimp Eater

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Is it just me or is the info on the site almost always incorrect?

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Originally by: Syath

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this stuff is a waste of time, if your not gonna put all the profitable trade routes in there then why even have this crap, its no help and it just clutters the forums with waste

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Originally by: Veidtre

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Kaladr,

One question that you might be able to help me with: I'm seeing some unusual stationid values on some datadumps. For example, "61000101" - I can't find a matching stationid in the latest databases from CCP or Chuker. There are 10 or 12 other unrecognized stationids?

V

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Originally by: Tradin Jack

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The trade route finder is currently not looking at the starting sector's security rating. Sahda keeps popping up it's ugly head as a source of nice trades in Domain. I suppose they might be if Sahda weren't .4 security rating :)

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Originally by: Ludi Cross

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Hi, I love your site, it's a much-needed resource.

I noticed and verified today that the security filter is not working for the Trade Finder. Both checked and unchecked, it would repeatedly send me to destinations ending in low-sec space.

I realize it doesn't guarantee avoiding low-sec mid-route, but it previously avoided low-sec destinations as expected when this feature was activated.

Thanks for all your hard work!

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Originally by: Tonto Auri

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Working now...
Guess it want some ISK to grease their harddisks :)

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Originally by: LaVista Vista

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RSS > Email.

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Originally by: Doug Gallespie

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Now if there were separate email lists for regions/items, that would be really cool.

I'd also like to see a nightly dump that included all the 'current' orders in the database, rather than just the new stuff received during the day. Otherwise I need all the historical data back for a year in order to establish what the current market situation is.

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Originally by: Coconut Joe

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Surely the end result will just be programs querying their email servers repeatedly instead of yours? Do you think this will result in you using less bandwidth as a result? How do you intend to minimize waste, i.e. people not using the service any more, but still being subscribed.

And last question, (sorry, couldn't determine from the dev page), do you plan to do something funky with the email, like using it with SOAP, or will it just be the csv files?

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Originally by: Ratcattle

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Hi Kaladr,

I uploaded a lot of mineral market files (e.g. megacyte from sinq and essence) but even 10 minutes later the orders don't show up in the market browser. I tried it a few times.
Thanks for your great work so far!

Regards

Ratcattle

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Originally by: Vega Vuf

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Hmm is it supposed to only show 25 entries on the page now or will it be fixed?

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Originally by: sun seller

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Edited by: sun seller on 10/04/2008 23:38:55
hm, the download file seems to be broken; only 980kb then it stops. so maybe someone could contact someone ?

http://www.eve-central.com/dl/evec_setup_1_3_1.exe

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Originally by: Jaarlax

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Edited by: Jaarlax on 11/04/2008 11:15:48
is the v2 data calculated differently?
looking at trit in tash, i'm getting different max buy prices 3.4 v1 3.75 v2.
i'm not using a minq or hours limit on the v2 results

it'd dt so i cant upload a fresh dump to see if they update, but if i run both they should both be looking at the latest dump and match anyway?

Edit
i was using a query that checked t1 mins and tash and some other stiff in jita, but if i remove the jita part the results match.
EG
http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020 matches the v1 results (trit in tash)
http://eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=34®ionlimit=10000020&typeid=11399®ionlimit=10000002 no longer matches (trit in tash and morph in jita)
or do i need to run seperate queries per region?

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Originally by: Jaarlax

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i didnt set a minq, i thought maybe it was ignoring the first region limit or averaging both selected regions as it only errors when multi regions are selected

cool you spotted the problem tho :)

Thanks

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Originally by: Dal Rath

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IÆm also mulling over a possible Premium subscription to EVE-Central.

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Hi Kaladr

Interesting idea. I'd like to hear more about your thinking here. In particular, I've been considering two aspects: how to provide incentives to users to upload data and how a charging model would interact with other sites using your various data feeds.

Providing some form of improved service to users who upload market data, perhaps in the form of subsidized subscriptions or 'uploader only' features would perhaps increase the data available, but would require some safe guards to prevent people uploading junk data just to qualify for the benefits. Do you have any plans for something like this?

Charging for services whilst leaving the data feeds free runs the risk of simply driving traffic to other sites that offer the same service using the free data but don't charge, or charge less, to end users. Of course taking load off your server may be a good thing, but reducing your subscription revenue probably is not. Do you plan to introduce any kind of restrictions on the ability of 3rd party services using your data to charge for it? For that matter, do you plan on starting to charge for the feeds?

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Originally by: Jaarlax

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anyone having trouble connexting at the mo?

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Originally by: Dal Rath

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Thanks for the update. I'm working on some trade finding tools built on top of the eve-central data. I've opted for a more thorough but more computationally intensive algorithm than you use. Before I release it I'd like to solve two problems: how to provide priority service to people who provide eve-central with uploads and how to rate limit the rest.

Is there any way to query eve-central for the uploader information? e.g. an API that I can send a character name or CCP API limited key to and get back a reputation indicator of some sort? Some meta-data in the mail feed that would show the user id of the person uploading would also work, but I'd need some way of relating eve-central user accounts to CCP accounts/characters I guess. An openid like system would be really nice, or reusing CCPs API key mechanism in some way perhaps.

As for limiting usage, one option is simply to cap the number of queries a user can perform per unit time. However, I'd prefer to charge isk and give some of that back to eve-central. Any objection to a business model of that sort?

Just out of idle curiosity, how many hits do you get on the site? I know what the upload volume is via the mail feed, but it would be really interesting to see a breakdown of e.g. search volume by item or region. Some interesting market meta data to be had there perhaps.

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Originally by: Sysion

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I was curious how movement was calculated as well... one issued I think there could be is that when an order sells out, how do you know? If someone is selling 1 million units of Tritanium and someone buys the whole order, how is that accounted for in the market logs? Seems like the order would drop off from it, but nothing showing the sale.

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Originally by: HerbTarlek

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So when are you going to add Detorid?

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Originally by: Paula Quartz

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Where's the Eve-Central API documentation? Downloading the XML works fine, just don't know how they're constructed.

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Originally by: Jaarlax

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it's backup looks like \o/


also, can you ad numbers to the leaderboard? its a pain to keep counting what place i'm at (21st at the mo)

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Originally by: Key Nas

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Very nice site and the exports are really useful to many developed tools!

One question though as I have started playing with an idea for an app as well. Is there a limit at the number of typeids you can have at the url per each request? If not is there a best practice for me to do a request for all the items in your database? I have cleaned the items that are market objects through the database export, but still sending a request with 5000+ items at its url doesn't feel right. Am I missing something here?

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work!

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Originally by: Ambo

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I hope the requests from EMMA are not causing this, I noticed that eve-central's problems started not long after I released 1.0 . They are marked with a custom user-agent header as you recommend so if you're getting unreasonable numbers of them then let me know and I'll look into ways of reducing the load.

Currently requests are always for a single item and are made as data is required. results are retained and another request will only be made after 24 hours.

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Originally by: Marcus D'Eriellius

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I notice the EON awards are out and for some unfathomable reason EVE-Central.com does not appear in the best application/service category which makes the awards a laughing stock.

Don't worry Kaladr, we appreciate what you do.

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Originally by: RAW23

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I had alot of success at the start of my career using eve central (many thanks!). However, I was recently told that the data dumps could be manually edited to, for example, remove a nice trade by changing the figures, thus avoiding competition for the first person to find that route. Is this the case? If so, doesn't that make the whole site potentially useless? I say potentially because there are obviously not enough people currently doing this to completely break it (otherwise I wouldn't have had any success) but I would really like to know if this is genuinely possible before relying on the site again.

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