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Vittorio en Divalone University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 06:54:00 - [1] - Quote How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks...
Luwc Easy Co. Fatal Ascension 10	Posted - 2013.10.02 08:37:00 - [2] - Quote Vittorio en Divalone wrote: How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks... it would have to be optional and at beeing able to lower the detail ... talking about displaying it to other people here. It is going to lag ** out especially when CCP programs its ressources **** "Enter Null Sec Lag and Tidi butthurt comment here"
Fia Magrath The Clown Inquisition 16	Posted - 2013.10.02 10:50:00 - [3] - Quote i want to scribble a giant red dong on my ship
Berendas EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 587	Posted - 2013.10.02 16:34:00 - [4] - Quote There were some not-so-subtle hints of CCP implementing ship paint jobs back in Crucible. I haven't heard so much as a whisper about them since then, however.
Thaddeus Eggeras TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 20	Posted - 2013.10.02 16:48:00 - [5] - Quote I think maybe buying different paint jobs from LP stores be pretty cool, and having your corp amd/or aliiance on your ships instead of the races stuff would be a lot better.
Alexa Coates Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC 656	Posted - 2013.10.02 17:37:00 - [6] - Quote people still think it'd cause massive lag? Tell me, does having to download a high-def character portrait for each player cause lag? it's the same damn thing. it'd take a second for the client to download the skin of each ship and bam that's it. It overlays it onto the skin already there and it's done. Forza has in-depth customization but it doesn't lag. Same with any game with custom characters or vehicles ever. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Baggo Hammers 124	Posted - 2013.10.02 18:06:00 - [7] - Quote I too would like this feature and now that OP has let it be known HE wants it, CCP must submit. If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Hungry Eyes Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 445	Posted - 2013.10.02 19:31:00 - [8] - Quote this has been in development for a long time now....id like to know what's happening with this....
Natasha Konovalova Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:23:00 - [9] - Quote I actually loved it when they introduced custom camo patterns, logos, and signs for different tanks in WoT. If you have fixed models to select from, I am sure it's not going to introduce any lag - any kind of graphics provided by CCP is simply going to be part of the client and already loaded on your side. Plus in a space game like this you won't even see any graphics until you actually take the time to zoom all the way in. In WoT you can use game money to purchase a temporary make over, and gold for permanent. I imagine CCP could charge AUR for permanent ship skin make over, but it better not be gone when you lose the ship :)
Arrins Uta Valkyrie Professional Resources I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 0	Posted - 2013.10.02 21:54:00 - [10] - Quote The issue is if every corp was able to show their logo or have a unique paint job it would take alot more resources to load up the extra data. Causing lag and slow load ins for ships coming into system. Maybe if corps could pay for a paint scheme for corp members only but still same problem remains. Its matter of the stress to our one server.

Alexa Coates Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC 657	Posted - 2013.10.02 22:28:00 - [11] - Quote Arrins Uta wrote: The issue is if every corp was able to show their logo or have a unique paint job it would take alot more resources to load up the extra data. Causing lag and slow load ins for ships coming into system. Maybe if corps could pay for a paint scheme for corp members only but still same problem remains. Its matter of the stress to our one server. do you understand how computers work? No, it'd wouldn't take "alot more resources". It'd load the picture ONCE, and put it on every spot on every ship designated for the "corp logo" That's it. In fact, your game already does that, with the faction logo on the ships. That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.
Yang Aurilen The Black Talon Training Corp Talons Of Blood 2	Posted - 2013.10.03 04:24:00 - [12] - Quote Alexa Coates wrote: Arrins Uta wrote: The issue is if every corp was able to show their logo or have a unique paint job it would take alot more resources to load up the extra data. Causing lag and slow load ins for ships coming into system. Maybe if corps could pay for a paint scheme for corp members only but still same problem remains. Its matter of the stress to our one server. do you understand how computers work? No, it'd wouldn't take "alot more resources". It'd load the picture ONCE, and put it on every spot on every ship designated for the "corp logo" That's it. In fact, your game already does that, with the faction logo on the ships. Now multiply that with the thousands of ship in Jita 4-4. Also add that on the second battle of Asakai for all the nullsec corps and innumerable highsec corps on top of TiDi and all the crap that CCP calculates. It's not about processing power it's about bandwidth.
Alaric Faelen Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 165	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:17:00 - [13] - Quote Instead of wasting time and effort on WIS and playing Space Barbie, CCP should have pursued custom ship skins. It's one place where Aurum and it's RMT would have fit in just fine. Vanity items actually for the spaceships in a game about spaceships. Large corps and alliances would easily have enough PLEX sales to afford real money for Aurum to buy a unique look to suit their uniquely powerful position in New Eden. Individuals are always going to be there to drop real money on useless in-game vanity items as well. Far, FAR more people would have had an interest in the Noble Ex if it had anything to do with space ships. Basic patterns like the camo faction ships get, and a spot for a custom logo of some finite file size. Make the custom spot small so like much of a ship's detail, isn't visible unless you're zoomed way in. Stuff like that is mostly for the owner to stare at. Other than a quick glance for specific fittings, few people you are fighting zoom in that close on your ship. I can't see that making much impact when we have spinning Gatling gun models.
crononyx Running with Knives Nexus Fleet 0	Posted - 2013.10.03 06:54:00 - [14] - Quote It's not only about your PC's resources, it's about cluster's resources. It will have to transmit those few extra bytes of data plus the actual textures for every single ship in the universe to every player. The fact that many of them, like corp-wide skins, can be reused doesn't make it much easier. That will eat up a LOT of server's bandwidth and apart from few minutes of self-admiring you will only experience more lag. And all the current textures are already on your computer and they don't need to be downloaded.
Ginger Barbarella Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1508	Posted - 2013.10.03 21:59:00 - [15] - Quote Vittorio en Divalone wrote: How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks... The day I see Hello Kitty paint jobs on ships is the day I trash everything, biomass all characters, and cancel all (currently 6) accounts. Period. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Natasha Konovalova Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.10.03 22:07:00 - [16] - Quote crononyx wrote: [blah blah] And all the current textures are already on your computer and they don't need to be downloaded. Well, there you go - you can start by allowing people to use CCP pre-created textures and logos that will become part of client. Problem solved. The only thing server will need to upload is the ID of the custom texture used and ID of the custom logo used. Bandwidth my ass. Ginger Barbarella wrote: The day I see Hello Kitty paint jobs on ships is the day I trash everything, biomass all characters, and cancel all (currently 6) accounts. Period. Point taken, but if we are to buy custom textures and logos for our ships, textures and logos CCP creates in the spirit of the game, there's no chance CCP will make Hello Kitty logo available.
Hell Bitch Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:31:00 - [17] - Quote Confirming that I am a jaded old **** who thinks that eve must stay locked in a vacuum bubble of its 2006 build state, and that any deviation from this state equals a watering down of MY eve experience...... All I want is a black CNR, like in the old dx8 days :(
Hungry Eyes Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 445	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:46:00 - [18] - Quote in any case i think this thread needs a blue tag to clarify intent with custom skins.
Hell Bitch Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2013.10.04 15:51:00 - [19] - Quote crononyx wrote: It's not only about your PC's resources, it's about cluster's resources. It will have to transmit those few extra bytes of data plus the actual textures for every single ship in the universe to every player. The fact that many of them, like corp-wide skins, can be reused doesn't make it much easier. That will eat up a LOT of server's bandwidth and apart from few minutes of self-admiring you will only experience more lag. And all the current textures are already on your computer and they don't need to be downloaded. Many games that support custom user content in this manner have a little check box in the settings, it'll probably say something like 'Download and use custom ship textures?' Switch it off if it bothers you, just like you can with the CQ, 3D station environment, shadows etc...... That's the beauty of PC gaming, end user customisation. If it was implemented i'm sure the devs are clever enough to make it so that in the middle of a massive fleet flight custom texture download will be a low priority.
DeAira Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 0	Posted - 2013.10.04 20:26:00 - [20] - Quote WoT will also let you install custom skins. They are only visible on your computer, so no resources are needed from anyone else; no one else can see them. #nojustice4VileRat

Daracon Rage Neon Skies Hail the Hoff 6	Posted - 2013.10.05 13:06:00 - [21] - Quote This would be a kick-ass feature. I'm down for it.
Judge Deaf 2	Posted - 2013.10.07 06:35:00 - [22] - Quote Well, it has been asked since..what...2003?? In the simplest form that has been suggested, is that all the skins would have Hue/Saturation/Luminosity data. 3 data sets, with which you could get crapload of variables, with very little stress on the bandwidth. It could be pushed further if the skins would be split in, say 3 different areas that you could control separately. Say : armour, midship, structure. With those 3 different variables you could pick your poison and the data would be about few bytes. Not server breaking, I would presume? Now the corp logo, external graphs, that would be much more challenging. Not in the more desolate systems but in the crowded spots. One can start to calculate the amount of data that would have to be seeded if there would be 4000 players in a system, and one 100kb logo would have to be sent to one player. Let alone 4000...
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 366	Posted - 2013.10.07 12:09:00 - [23] - Quote Corp logos are composed, not baked, there would be not 100 kb logo, not the image itself, but few bytes for displaying it in the location on the ship and colors, graphic element like shown in your character info, same with colors, and other graphic items that every client would have inside the files, not bake on server and send image but compose, store vectors on server and send few bytes onto the client, draw on the client side. If any, i suppose devs response would be something like: yadda yadda no time, yadda yadda not in development now, yadda yadda can't decide how it could look, yadda yadda no penises in space allowed for sure. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats.
Zander Kumamato Madz Legion Madz Republic 7	Posted - 2013.10.19 15:10:00 - [24] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: Vittorio en Divalone wrote: How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks... The day I see Hello Kitty paint jobs on ships is the day I trash everything, biomass all characters, and cancel all (currently 6) accounts. Period. Hello Kitty Kestrel http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/full/312008/322c9d29-db56-4f12-8e81-30505459d9c4.jpg and ... http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee63/alpreb/HelloKittyApoc.jpg Also, I support some form of ship color thing. Maybe something from like homeworld.. pick specific color sets for specific locations on the ships..
Rath Kelbore The Six-Pack Syndicate Hashashin Cartel 401	Posted - 2013.10.19 15:59:00 - [25] - Quote At least let us put corp logos ! If priced right, that would be an intelligent use of the horribly implemented cash shop. I would pay a dollar to put a corp logo on my ship. Not every ship mind you, but some. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good.
bubble trout Sky Fighters 69	Posted - 2013.10.19 16:02:00 - [26] - Quote Flesh colored stabbers and thoraxes.......................................... everywhere
Brylan Grey The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.10.20 00:45:00 - [27] - Quote I support this fully. To reduce lag and texture downloading etc, it would be a simple tiny over the current texture. This would be optimal. I love it. Ig all things, I wish that the little corp signal would change on the shop depending on what corp you were in... That alone would put awesome sauce all over my hull.
Dvesk Papuga Viziam Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.10.20 10:19:00 - [28] - Quote love this idea. ccp make it happen,please
Maliandra School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 65	Posted - 2013.10.21 02:32:00 - [29] - Quote Vittorio en Divalone wrote: How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks... You lost me at "gay colours". Learn to exist in 2013 then come back and post your idea :P.
Dragon Utrigas Filthy Privateers 1	Posted - 2013.10.21 10:01:00 - [30] - Quote Maliandra wrote: Vittorio en Divalone wrote: How comes that in such a deep and detailled universe there is not a ship customization tool. Not even that you can add your corporation emblema somewere displaying in your ship. Im not asking for gay colours or useless crap, but a little option to make some metalic contrasts or darkening, making it rust or cracks... You lost me at "gay colours". Learn to exist in 2013 then come back and post your idea :P. Yeah man, who uses the word "colours" in this day and age?

Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 446	Posted - 2013.10.29 19:09:00 - [31] - Quote I see them as CMYK. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats.
LtauSTinpoWErs Mafia Redux Phobia. 12	Posted - 2013.10.30 21:34:00 - [32] - Quote Fia Magrath wrote: i want to scribble a giant red dong on my ship This is exactly why it hasn't been introduced YET. CCP soundwave mentioned that he wanted players to have more customization at their disposal. However, his concern was TTP (Time To Pen15) or the time until a user creates a phallus based image. "Now, whenever we talk about customization, we inevitably end up with the issue of TTP (time to pen15; the measurement of how long it takes your users to place the first pen15 on something). WeGÇÖd need to find some way of moderating the creations before they hit the general public, while at the same time keeping a relatively easy to use and fluid creation/distribution process. But yeah, having the stuff be made and traded by players would be amazing." -CCP Soundwave
Orakkus Wraithguard. Dirt Nap Squad. 226	Posted - 2013.10.30 22:02:00 - [33] - Quote I still don't know why they just don't have a set of pre-customized skins for each ship, with a changable pre-set color palette (maybe a million colors or whatever), and so long as CCP is approving and validating Corporate and Alliance logo, there should be just zero TTP and plenty of options. It shouldn't be a real problem to control that at all. Honestly, I think the biggest problem is just the visual effects of the game don't really lend themselves to skin changes, color palettes, and logos. I mean, unless you "Look at" a ship, or are right next to it you aren't going really "see" anything at all outside the sillouette of the ship. That I think is the real problem. He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander
Moonlit Raid State War Academy Caldari State 103	Posted - 2013.10.30 22:05:00 - [34] - Quote I'm against the idea of having customisation for all to see, but being able to replace my own texture files would be nice. Glamouflage all the way.
Mer88 Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 40	Posted - 2013.10.30 23:40:00 - [35] - Quote problem with custom paint is some people might make their ship look werid and ruins the immersion for others. i think this is the main reason
Gitanmaxx Viziam Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2013.11.12 03:57:00 - [36] - Quote Alexa Coates wrote: Arrins Uta wrote: The issue is if every corp was able to show their logo or have a unique paint job it would take alot more resources to load up the extra data. Causing lag and slow load ins for ships coming into system. Maybe if corps could pay for a paint scheme for corp members only but still same problem remains. Its matter of the stress to our one server. do you understand how computers work? No, it'd wouldn't take "alot more resources". It'd load the picture ONCE, and put it on every spot on every ship designated for the "corp logo" That's it. In fact, your game already does that, with the faction logo on the ships. Well honestly it does take more resources. That's why several online games offer the ability to turn on or off custom skins for other players and show only the defaults. Because the ship defaults are local on your system, every single players custom skin is not. And it would have to be pretty high detail skin or it would look awful. so it's disingenuous to say that's not how computers work, or it would have no effect. Now you're probably onto something that it wouldn't be an issue for lots of systems these days, i'd imagine they could handle it. But from what I hear CCP has really specific net code for what resources and calculations are local in order to handle everything as smooth as possible, if it was no biggie they wouldn't need to do that. That said, I would love this feature.
Hatsumi Kobayashi Origin. Black Legion. 309	Posted - 2013.11.12 04:09:00 - [37] - Quote ccp i want a blow job send mintchip pls No sig.
Thane Shimaya Shimaya and Sons Extraction Co. 0	Posted - 2013.11.12 18:22:00 - [38] - Quote I remember asking about this in-game soon after I started playing and thinking it would be a great idea. Thanks for reminding me! Well. This changes things...
Phoenix Jones Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking 253	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:01:00 - [39] - Quote Skins, no. Alliance logos sure. There loaded into the client periodically. Easy enough to add the skins to the ship. Stabbers are totally broken http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
Shrike Arghast Aliastra Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2013.11.13 21:01:00 - [40] - Quote I am opposed to player-generated content. As people said, it would quickly degrade into lewdness and obscenity. If CCP wanted to add alternate skins for stuff, fine, though I would honestly prefer those development hours to be spent elsewhere.

Bobinu Devils Diciples League of Infamy 17	Posted - 2013.11.14 14:09:00 - [41] - Quote Be cool if ships had a marker to show what area of space they were made in, by faction or race.
Thaddeus Eggeras TwoTenX LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 72	Posted - 2013.11.15 00:01:00 - [42] - Quote It be nice to be able to paint your ships, maybe make it something with LPs. Every race, and priate race have a hand full of different paint jobs you can get with LP and isk from their store. You could either use them or sell them on the market. I'd also very much like to see instead of the people who made the ship or nation, our corp and aliiance on our ships.


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