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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 12:43:00 -
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Is it only me that thinks that atm it's retarded that you cannot defend yourself from someone that has killrights on you if that person decides to attack?
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Felxia on 21/01/2006 12:49:51
Originally by: Stephen HB Um, I thought you could? As far as I'm aware once someone has attacked you, returning fire is entirely OK. Otherwise the 'bait and gank' can flagging wouldn't work.
If concord is destroying people for fighting back, bug report it, as I'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen.
"Response ([GM]Rendo) - 01/05/2006 05:34 PM Hi Robert,
What you experienced is not a bug. If you attack and kill another player then he receives kill rights on you. He can then attack you anywhere in empire space without Concord intervention. If you retaliate then Concord will intervene if you are in a empire system. According to the devs then this is how it was designed and it's not a bug. If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help.
Best regards, The EVE Online Customer Support Team"
From a dev response, this proves that if you get attacked in empire you do not have the right to return fire.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ardent Rellik Crap.... does that mean dozen or so peeps can attack me in empire and I cant fire back.... oh...man.
yeah, and thats what I find rediculous, not only do only they have the right to decide when to attack but they can do so without getting shot back at. However I thin kthis only affects ppl the DID NOT fire back, miners for example.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:12:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing felxia- why are you posting? is gingermagician banned?
Casue I've some people have killrights on me and I think it's unfair that I can't defend myself
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Clytamnestra
Originally by: Wanoah
Originally by: Felxia Is it only me that thinks that atm it's retarded that you cannot defend yourself from someone that has killrights on you if that person decides to attack?
I have heard this before. Have you tested it?
As a rule of thumb, you can always defend yourself if someone attacks you.
Well, if the GM's aknowledge that it's not the case for killrights, then I guess that takes precedence.
On the other hand, it's bothersome that there are situations where you cannot fire back without getting concordokken'd - it sounds just weird. And it's open for abuse.
Myself, I have noticed that the only kill rights I have are from fights where I've not fired back. So it might be one of those mechanism.
you can in other words just sit in 0.0 in a shuttle and get pwned. For example a fleet. You'll get kill rights on all those peeps cause you could not fight back and then in empire pwn them all without anything happaning. However if the fleet decides to leave you alone your gonna give enemies their position away number count ship types etc. Even setups if you can scan em.
It's just... wrong.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gummi
Originally by: Clytamnestra The "patch notes" for the Eye for an Eye feature of Red Moon Rising has this to say on the matter:
Quote: If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight.
The only people I have kill rights on are people who killed me without me shooting back at all. And if it's true that you can't fire back without getting concordokkened, well then I have before me a way of making a lot of money.
Drive up to a gate-camp in a shuttle. I've gotten kill-rights on the entire gang that sniped me at one gate-camp. Then find them and destroy them. If they shoot back, they get concordokkened.
That hardly sounds fair. Everyone should have the right to fire back once fired upon - otherwize there's an opportunity for abuse.
Exactly. The shuttle is the key, use it to gain kill rights, and to difuse kill rights in empire.
yep
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing are killrights private, or corp?
private i think
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: robacz Edited by: robacz on 21/01/2006 13:47:41
Originally by: Clytamnestra The "patch notes" for the Eye for an Eye feature of Red Moon Rising has this to say on the matter:
Quote: If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight.
The only people I have kill rights on are people who killed me without me shooting back at all. And if it's true that you can't fire back without getting concordokkened, well then I have before me a way of making a lot of money.
Drive up to a gate-camp in a shuttle. I've gotten kill-rights on the entire gang that sniped me at one gate-camp. Then find them and destroy them. If they shoot back, they get concordokkened.
That hardly sounds fair. Everyone should have the right to fire back once fired upon - otherwize there's an opportunity for abuse.
Fair? Heh and how fair is killing unarmed shuttle? Imho its perfect, it makes ppl think twice before they kill players who have no chance to fight back.
you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Felxia
Originally by: j0sephine "you didn't read my post above. spies? spieing for enemy fleets, numbers etc. Haulers? miners? 0.0 is a wasteland these killrights imo should only affect 0.1 to 0.4"
"If you lose your ship within Empire space because of unsanctioned combat, you earn the right to revenge your loss for a limited time, and can kill the assailant on sight."
doesn't sound like 0.0 is included there.
why do these guys have killrights then? I killed them in 0.0
true ofc.
empire 0.0 or true 0.0?
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.21 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Felxia on 21/01/2006 15:14:19
Originally by: Ozzie Asrail
Originally by: Sister 9 this thread is hilarious, all the carebear pirates out in full handbag swinging force.
the simple matter is, don't kill people in Empire if you can't handle the consequences.
Yup it is hilarious, and the threads from carebears who get griefed becuse of this feature will be 100x as good as this thread.
btw, read your own sig yea?
if you had a brain you'd maybe understand that 0.0 space is not empire.
And also, i dont have a sig...
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.01.22 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
When did you start playing again Felixa?
been palying the whole time
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