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wowyouareacow Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 13	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:48:00 - [1] - Quote Hello. I am currently a subcap pilot, thinking of getting into capital ships. Capital pilots, how did you raise enough ISK to buy your capitals? Did you grind in anomalies with a couple of accounts at 100m ISK/hr? Or did you use a more crafty method of generating the income? If so, any tips?
Xercodo Xovoni Astronautical Manufacturing and Engineering 2576	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:50:00 - [2] - Quote Ironically, I made my money from building and selling capitals to said pilots. The Drake is a Lie
ChromeStriker The Riot Formation Public Disorder. 588	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:50:00 - [3] - Quote ... isk just seems to appear in my wallet tbh... and it isnt so much the cap that costs for your first cap... its all those nice little skill books, and getting cyno alts set up etc - Nulla Curas
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 9215	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:52:00 - [4] - Quote scamming Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4670	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:54:00 - [5] - Quote Do you use a ship like a tengu, a carrier is like... 4 of them for a fitted one? I could afford one long before being able to fly it to alliance standards. For a new player the skilling time can only be sped up so much ... There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District 534	Posted - 2013.10.03 07:57:00 - [6] - Quote DED Complexes and Anomalies/Missions when I felt like it. Lieutenant Turelus Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4670	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:00:00 - [7] - Quote Really, as a member of an elite pvp alliance in a coalition that exists to destroy gsf, you should really be asking How do I afford a supercapital (preferably a titan) to dedicate to progodlegend's noble aim of causing the goons' 0.0 dream to be over? and Will I be able to use it in the upcoming VFK by February campaign? (optionally) Can I join PL if this goes belly up? (don't ask:) the no less than twelve, twelve black legion spies ... any of which could have told you (stuff) that eventually leads to you becoming a killmail for 40+ black legion dreadnaughts somewhere There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over. "Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013
ArmyOfMe Teddybears. Nocturnal Legion 169	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:05:00 - [8] - Quote Dunno tbh, ive just allways had the isk i need Jaden Adoudel > If I knew where you'd live I'd *** blow your head off
wowyouareacow Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 13	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:19:00 - [9] - Quote Alavaria, why are you so serious about who is in which alliance? It's not like I'm a leader currently, so I don't take attacks on my corp/alliance ethos personally. How did you afford your capital?
Samillian Angry Mustellid 327	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:29:00 - [10] - Quote Time and effort. NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 9217	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:30:00 - [11] - Quote If you had the ISK to buy your current character, how is funding a capital a problem? Or is this a troll? Twitter: @EVEAndski TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á
Joan Greywind No Swag Initiative 142	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:35:00 - [12] - Quote I get my capitals for free because I mine the minerals myself.
Bagrat Skalski Poseidaon 355	Posted - 2013.10.03 08:57:00 - [13] - Quote Joan Greywind wrote: I get my capitals for free because I mine the minerals myself in my Venture. Fixed. Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats.
Signal11th DARKNESS. 1119	Posted - 2013.10.03 09:34:00 - [14] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: Hello. I am currently a subcap pilot, thinking of getting into capital ships. Capital pilots, how did you raise enough ISK to buy your capitals? Did you grind in anomalies with a couple of accounts at 100m ISK/hr? Or did you use a more crafty method of generating the income? If so, any tips? The thing is with EVE is that once you spend a couple of years playing it you are usually better off than you think, I constantly find all sorts of crap lying around . Market trading is an easyish way of making lots of money or as you said grinding anomns in 0.0 (although if you only making 100mil and hour with a couple of accounts you're doing it wrong) tbh with 2 accounts you should be looking around the 200mil an hour mark in 0.0. Caps are great for moving all the collective junk you collect in 0.0 around as well. They should be sponsered by American Express as you shouldn't leave home without one. Powered by-áreaTh-áFilter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of-áany-ácorp or alliance I am currently a member of. Like I'd give a-ásh*t anyway. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster.
March rabbit epTa Team Inc. 792	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:15:00 - [15] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: Capital pilots, how did you raise enough ISK to buy your capitals? my capitals: 1st - Rorqual - mined ABC in 2010, took about 1-2 month (4 chars with hulks), 3-4 hours a day 2nd - Thanatos - farmed Drone Hordes in 2012 (1 char), 1-2 hours a day 3rd - Nyx (+ holder) - farmed 10/10 Drone Hive Mother escalations (2-3 chars) for like 4-6 months 1-2 escalation a day. Never trust 0.0 people that high-sec gives more ISK. It's only true if you compare the best high-sec ISK source with the worst and stupidiest 0.0 farming
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 5828	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:19:00 - [16] - Quote Nobody says that highsec gives more ISK/hr. The contention is that it gives more ISK/effort. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013
Xearal Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few 680	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:20:00 - [17] - Quote Try Null sec PI, with 6 planets, making P2s, you can easily make 400-500M per month, and only have to drop by your planets once a week tops.
Velicitia Emergent Avionics 1624	Posted - 2013.10.03 10:36:00 - [18] - Quote Bagrat Skalski wrote: Joan Greywind wrote: I get my capitals for free because I mine the minerals myself in my ~~Venture.~~ Kestrel Fixed. Fixed. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
wowyouareacow Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 14	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:39:00 - [19] - Quote Andski wrote: If you had the ISK to buy your current character, how is funding a capital a problem? Or is this a troll? AndskiGÇö this character was inactive for a long period and doesn't have that many SP. Capitals get destroyed, if you upgrade your clone (with the exception of flying T3s) skill points do not.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Pirate Nation. 112	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:48:00 - [20] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Nobody says that highsec gives more ISK/hr. The contention is that it gives more ISK/effort. The question is will Jenn aSide spend hours telling you otherwise... If you do not want LOCAL go to WH space, its as simple as that!-á-á-á-á-á-á-á There are people who think that WH space is like 0.0 but without local, well they should light a cyno and try jumping to it.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon 854	Posted - 2013.10.03 12:52:00 - [21] - Quote Plex. no time for pve. "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 423	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:31:00 - [22] - Quote - Level 5 missions - Lowsec PI - Lowsec Sites - Killing you and taking your stuff.
Victor Dathar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 123	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:38:00 - [23] - Quote Scamming. NBD. ^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7
Setsune Rin Bite Me inc Bitten. 95	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:43:00 - [24] - Quote ~wormholes~
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 1287	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:55:00 - [25] - Quote wowyouareacow wrote: Hello. I am currently a subcap pilot, thinking of getting into capital ships. Capital pilots, how did you raise enough ISK to buy your capitals? Did you grind in anomalies with a couple of accounts at 100m ISK/hr? Or did you use a more crafty method of generating the income? If so, any tips? You must be joking. If you are not, then nulli can never ever hope to beat goons. goons hand out cap ships like candy to players. If you look at PL's public budget, they have a supercap subsidy budget. It used to be that most null sec denizens made billions upon billions every week doing PvE in secure null sec enclaves. They top out at maybe 150 M / hour running anom's, but when you factor in all the escalations and the pirate BPC drops from those, plus the A-Type loot, it is an insane amount per hour. When I lived in Pure Blind, which is terrible truesec, I made somewhat less than 100M / hour running anoms, and that was in a solo Ishtar, armour tanked. Guys with fighters assigned from a carrier did better. But I got wealthy out of the escalations and 10/10 loot drops. Now, things have changed down there, since I lived in null. Anyone with a CFC logo or CFC renter logo on the side of their ship not only rats in virtual complete safety, they have immense alliance level and corporate level income flowing in, supposedly that "trickles down" to the line members. I can't speak to the East side of null sec PvE income, where there are a ton of caged rats all living in a ever shrinking cage. But bottom line, a supercarrier, fully fitted, is in the 25 B to 35 B range. Even at 150 M / hour, that is about 250 hours, at the extreme top end, or ratting. For the likes of goons, it is way way less. 250 hours is a couple months of work for the typical null sec player. A Titan, well, now you are in the 75B to 100B range. That is some serious coin, but easily accomplished if you live in a rich alliance. A poor one, it is brutal. I have asked CCP before how many supercaps are in the game and even how many are now sitting on idled accounts. But the cartels don't want that number made public, because it punches such a huge hole in the lie about how tough it is to live in null, and how high sec should be nerfed to level the playing field. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook.
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1482	Posted - 2013.10.03 14:59:00 - [26] - Quote March rabbit wrote: wowyouareacow wrote: Capital pilots, how did you raise enough ISK to buy your capitals? my capitals: 1st - Rorqual - mined ABC in 2010, took about 1-2 month (4 chars with hulks), 3-4 hours a day 2nd - Thanatos - farmed Drone Hordes in 2012 (1 char), 1-2 hours a day 3rd - Nyx (+ holder) - farmed 10/10 Drone Hive Mother escalations (2-3 chars) for like 4-6 months 1-2 escalation a day. Never trust 0.0 people that high-sec gives more ISK. It's only true if you compare the best high-sec ISK source with the worst and stupidiest 0.0 farming Ouch , that sounds like WAY too much work. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 5831	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:30:00 - [27] - Quote Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Anyone with a CFC logo or CFC renter logo on the side of their ship not only rats in virtual complete safety, You ever look at a CFC alliance's killboard? I mean, come on now... Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: they have immense alliance level and corporate level income flowing in, supposedly that "trickles down" to the line members. "Supposedly" we have a really awesome reimbursement program and so do the other CFC alliances. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 5831	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:33:00 - [28] - Quote Also your figures for ratting income are pretty inflated. Chaining FHubs in a HAM Tengu with 1100 DPS still only nets me about 90-100M / hour. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1482	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:34:00 - [29] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: they have immense alliance level and corporate level income flowing in, supposedly that "trickles down" to the line members. "Supposedly" we have a really awesome reimbursement program and so do the other CFC alliances. Are you saying goonswarm isnt handing out freeby carriers/dreads and moms for that matter to all of it's members ? Jeez , happy i joined FCON then ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 5831	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:35:00 - [30] - Quote flakeys wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: they have immense alliance level and corporate level income flowing in, supposedly that "trickles down" to the line members. "Supposedly" we have a really awesome reimbursement program and so do the other CFC alliances. Are you saying goonswarm isnt handing out freeby carriers/dreads and moms for that matter to all of it's members ? Jeez , happy i joined FCON then ... They do. Every new member gets a titan, whether they can fly it or not. My YouTube Videos Latest video: August 25, 2013

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