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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:18:00 -
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its now up to CCP to provide a workable solution hardware upgrades should help a great deal with fleet battle lag - though i guess alliances will now push for 1000 ppl fleet engagnements at some point if this growth continues = time to bring forward the jove expansion
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GigaIndy
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:36:00 -
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Log traps used to be exploit, it is confirmed NOT exploit now.
Is that simply because GMs are lazy? I do indeed believe so.
But rest easy V, We killed a RAT Hac today, and he whined about us "ganking" him.
Rat will get whats coming to them, one day.
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:39:00 -
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hmmm well considering their ignorance of certain M things in empire this is totally expected
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli Edited by: Nebuli on 22/01/2006 02:23:09 Basicaly what he said was,
I've lost my 3rd Dread now, due to the log in tactics RAT use alot, this tactic is brought by fear.
I will send a petition of this because after RAT logged in and warped to my position my screen froze and I was unable to do anything.
Just a personal note, before anyone starts the "I bet they jumped in from another system blah, blah" which is what the last post got about this, we have many, MANY screens of a screen full of red faces logging off, and then logging back in at the exact same time, it happens everyday, RAT turn up with blob, we get counter blob, RAT log off, if their scout sees an oppertunity for an easy kill RAT log on.
Simple as that realy :)
Just a little edit, it is late but LD is German, his English is fine once you get used to it :)
SUPPOSDELY log-in traps are legit now, as long as u dont log off where the person is, like the gate, so they logged at a planet then warped to the gate its supposed to be legit, if it isn't got beef with some gms ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:53:00 -
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yes i think as long as a mass logoff isnt involved and u warp in to fight the defenders then yes its not an exploit but if u log on and off to create lag in a deliberate way then a case may be had
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2006.01.22 09:55:00 -
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This new patch should be called Red Lag Rising.
The servers cannot handle the current load of players currently logged in.
A 20 v 20 is a lagfest.
Used to be able to do 100 v 100 with some lag. Can't do that now without massive problems.
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Kanuo Ashkeron
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Posted - 2006.01.22 10:10:00 -
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When 10+ people login at the same time and the same place and kill another one shortly after, isnŠt that proof enough for login tactics? (All this infos should be in the server logs)
Kanuo
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Corp Scammer
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Posted - 2006.01.22 10:22:00 -
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red lag risen now its yardware rising
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jovialmadness on 22/01/2006 11:28:06 Edited by: Jovialmadness on 22/01/2006 11:26:20
Quote: To the op; Wie lang spielst' schon Freund? Klingts ganz blśd was die dir angetan hab'n.
Am besten Ist solche leute einfach zu ignorieren. Weiter fliegen, nichts mehr hier zu sehen.
How long have you played my friend? That should not have happened.
Its best just to ignore this. Nothing to see, keep flying.
EDIT: Your translation presented to us oh mysterious Deutsch one.
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Arctic Angel
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kanuo Ashkeron When 10+ people login at the same time and the same place and kill another one shortly after, isnŠt that proof enough for login tactics? (All this infos should be in the server logs)
Kanuo
Logon traps are lame, but not something you can really show from any logs. Eve at the moment is so unpredictably laggy that the screen can freeze anytime for minutes for a whole gang and only thing you can do i relog to be able to play. If the GM's would then mistake a lag related relog to a login trap and ban people for doing it, it'd be a disaster.
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Dan Grobag
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:32:00 -
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a long time ago, you were selling me cap recharger II for 100k isk per run, you must be very rich now with that bpo. you shouldn't have any problems buying another dread :)
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Light Darkness on 22/01/2006 11:35:16 Sry. But if you know login you will warp 100k km = best time to form a gang and warp to the target.
But the trap self isnt the point. The point is cause the lag after this login was really bad. = we got eve running and they have a "new" restarted eve = they nearly havnt the lags and our gang was nearly completly frozen...thats a "login Trap"..."or cheat"..."or the server"...????
I cant do anythink and got frozen screen.
Now its CCP turn to do anythink.
Regards /LD
BTW: I play a long time m8t.
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.22 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dan Grobag a long time ago, you were selling me cap recharger II for 100k isk per run, you must be very rich now with that bpo. you shouldn't have any problems buying another dread :)
Heheheh i remember.
Its right that Seraphin is able to build the next. But that isnt the point atm. This kills the fun more then CCP think. Not for me alone.
How i told before.
Thats a "Login Trap"..."cheat"..."server problem"...?
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:06:00 -
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LD, should i provide you with links to post, where your guys laught @ RED, who were unable to do anything due to lag. And told them, that V winning just by skill. How do you feel, when you got trapped in this situation, but on the other side of the fence ?
Some of our guys got screen freezes too. For me - lag was totally ok - about 1 - 2 sec to activate module. ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |
MissileRus
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: MissileRus on 22/01/2006 12:25:15 To cause server lag is a bannable offence, if players use this tactic when they know it causes lag for other players they "should" be banned for it. i seriously doubt CCP would allow a tactic that causes lag to other players and not do anything about it.
Its in their own TOS/EULA/whatever... should be a 60 sec countdown when logging out(your ship will remain in space for 60 seconds but you go to desktop like normal), and a 60 sec wait time before you can do anything when logging in(you wait like you do when you jump a gate but cant do anything for 60 sec) and if more then 10 ppl login at the same time in the same system there should be a queue or something to avoid server lag.
Its in CCPs own contract that you cant cause server lag. ppl doing it should face the consequence. and ofc its the lamest thing i heard a corp use for a tactic.
CCP allowing it is bull****, if they are they need to change their contract because i still see that it says it isnt allowed to cause server lag on purpouse.
edit: if its a big problem(it seems to be) they should make a sticky and try to prevent corps using the "lagoutenemy" tactic while they can fix the game stabilety or untill they upgraded the servers. or changed their TOS allowing players to lag out the game on purpouse as a legal "tactic"...
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Aeon Yakati
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:29:00 -
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Login traps are for the weak.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:50:00 -
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If this is true then it's incredibly lame. I suggest you send it to CCP, because on the forums without any proof it's just trash talk.
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Tharbad
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Posted - 2006.01.22 12:59:00 -
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All the people whining about LD's englished managed to spectactularly miss the fact that he wrote half his first post in a Haiku poem (5-7-5 syllables), which is pretty clever in a language that's not even your first.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:06:00 -
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so many fanboys ^^ Why you stfu, when the same happened to RED ? ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |
Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:19:00 -
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no respect to logon trap kills, simple.
its technically an exploit, as ur epxliting the 1m warp away thingie, which shoudl give players the itme to warp off - but capital ships dont have it. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:28:00 -
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Oh, well. We dont need respect. Do we ? ----------------------------------------------- Ash to Ash Dust to Dust |
Darkdashing
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Posted - 2006.01.22 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Light Darkness Hello CCP and RAT.
Now the 3rd DN goes down cause loggin trap from RAT fear step dear RAT.
And also i will make a Peti cause after loggin/jumpin from RAT i got frozen screen.....
Regards /LD
stop posting--take a course in grammar and modern communication for bipeds.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2006.01.22 15:00:00 -
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so the moral of the story is, a guy keeps loosing dreads because he is an idiot
idiot? might be harsh, but look at it. if you had a dread would you move it anywhere without security ?
umm ya youd have some friends there. as for the log in tactic, well sucks ya, but not an exploit, they will show up on main as soon as they log in and if you watching youll see them , just like if they zone into the system.
and as for your screen freezing, welcome to the problem everyones facing, not just your whinyness, random lag.
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Mj Pronin
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Posted - 2006.01.22 15:00:00 -
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Just tell me why if RED losing 2 Dreds in single fight is considered fair and no red pilot even thinking of writing petition? And why for god's sake as soon as rich stupid -V-****got got pwned, he ALWAY start to cry and harrasing CCp with stupid petitions?
May be you, -V- and their fans, need to finally learn 2 simple things in EVE. 1. If you planning to fly big fat expensive ships in PvP-you should learn how to fight using them and how to protect them. 2 you should get used to the fact that nobody cares if you lose your 3 dread, while you have 10 more in your hangar. If you go on crying about "omg i got pwned by red cheaters"-you will be losing all the rest of you dreads, no matter how many you have stored. so stop childish cries, learn how to fight and respest your enemy if you get defeated. "You always learn from your defeats" - some wise man used to say.
Аnd props to the R.A.T. fighters. You guys doing awesome job! without you EVE would be dull place.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.22 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Darkdashing
Originally by: Light Darkness Hello CCP and RAT.
Now the 3rd DN goes down cause loggin trap from RAT fear step dear RAT.
And also i will make a Peti cause after loggin/jumpin from RAT i got frozen screen.....
Regards /LD
stop posting--take a course in grammar and modern communication for bipeds.
Dann fang mal an Deutsch zu lernen....
I my eyes ia a Login Trap a exploit and dont have anythink to do with a server lag in a large fight....
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Dave Tehsulei
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Posted - 2006.01.22 15:05:00 -
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good kill RAT.
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Light Darkness
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Posted - 2006.01.22 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dave Tehsulei good kill RAT.
You cant cause..
...they use other accouts and have 1 scout or trap running... ...Then they login to the same time and gank a smaller gang overpowered... ...if they see more enemys comming "mostly" they fly to a save and loggoff again... ...then they use his other acc and have again a scout/trap running...
THX for the gamefun.
Regards /LD
*-V-President* *-V-Fleet Command*
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Agent LeFemme
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Posted - 2006.01.22 18:32:00 -
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haha, owned, RAT 4tw!
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what you gonna do, when I come for you?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.01.22 18:48:00 -
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"so the moral of the story is, a guy keeps loosing dreads because he is an idiot
idiot? might be harsh, but look at it. if you had a dread would you move it anywhere without security ?"
"I have probs if we engage a dread+ small support that in 30sec 1 dread and around 12 BS + support loggin in to the same time..."
doesn't sound he was 'moving it anywhere' ... but rather engaged what was considered reasonable target (dread vs dread), and then got swarmed by extra forces that logged in.
And since you have no way to tell if there's 15+ people logged off in a system and waiting to gank you (as opposed to hiding in nearby systems or whatever) ... by this logic anyone who chooses to fight is "an idiot".
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Tjakka
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Posted - 2006.01.22 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Agent LeFemme haha, owned, RAT 4tw!
you are pathetic.
sry to hear it LD but thats how it goes sometimes you lose something in a maybe not fully legal way but thats **** happens.
get over it you got the isk to replace and CCP doesnt do **** about it even if you post the fraps for it they wont do ****
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