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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Khouri on 26/08/2003 14:32:25
How long does a abandoned ship remain on the server? Will it be deleted during downtime or will it stay where it was left until hell freezes over?
Background:
I'm farming NPCs quite deep in the outback, a lot of jumps away from the next station. I made myself a bookmark 10 au from all gates, planets/moons or belts in on system, which should be pretty save, since the max scanning range is a little over 2 au.
At this safe spot I have a giant container with ammo and plenty of space for loot. More or less the only thing I have to do is to get it once per week with a indy, otherwise I don't have to move one jump.
But just sitting there isn't AS much fun, so I travel back to civilized space now and then. Which takes ages, since my BS is *slow*.
The in theory most effective way would be to leave my BS - which I use *only* for npc farming - at my safe spot and use a shuttle (and even suicidejumping) to get to empirespace and back.
It would look a little stupid, though, if I come back and my dominix got deleted while I was away 
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DeltaFlux
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:33:00 -
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I've seen newbie ships sit outside stations for days at a time. I'd guess they time out eventually.
Be warned though, if someone is doing a system-wide scan and they detect your ship there's nothing to stop them warping to it and destroying it. They won't take a security hit if you're not in it (not when I tried it anyway ).
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:42:00 -
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Boarding ti would be a better option I think. Nothing over a free BS.
Question is - is a systemwide scan possible? The only way of scanning I know is the 2by range" option at the scanner - but you cannot scan for more than 2.something AUs that way. So if something is more than 3 AU away from all warpable objects it whould be impossible to find it that way.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:49:00 -
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Be warned though, if someone is doing a system-wide scan and they detect your ship there's nothing to stop them warping to it and destroying it. They won't take a security hit if you're not in it (not when I tried it anyway ).
There is no such a thing as a systemwide scan. The biggest scanning range on a standard ship is about 13-14au and very few people have modules installed that boosts the scanner.
There is no such thing as warping to a ship found on your scanner. If you are pretty close to it, you can "approach" it. But never warp to it.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.26 14:56:00 -
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i know of a moon with several imicus, navitas, some reapers, and other low end frigates all drifting next to it. all abandoned, they have been there for ages now.
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whoda1
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:04:00 -
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The idea you have is basically how I mine in Fountain.
Park an indy and an incursus at a bookmarked spot, mine a bunch, then pick it up with the indy.
I leave them there during the downtime, although I'm usually inside one of them, and I have no problems, so far.
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Threadcrapper
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:08:00 -
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Not entirely accurate -- from myt experience anyhow
You can scan an entire system - if you do it right -- however you just cant warp to any item you find on the results -- but with a bit of skill and practice you can find ANYTHING in a system. Takes a bit to perfect and still is hard to do but a little practice and you can learn to do it with ease.
I have found lots things not showing an icon to warp to, as those things are only listed in the concord database.
what system was that again?
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:23:00 -
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I have often pondered this too.
But before I try it I really would like a confirmation that it would never time out. I remember this being discussed during alpha/beta and I thought the outcome was that they would have to time out or the world would soon be cluttered with this stuff.
Anyone CCP or Polaris confirm this?
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Fenklar
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:25:00 -
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I have pondered this very question myself. So I did a little experament with a shuttle and a Bestower a little while ago. I was able to maintain my derilict ships (they did not get stolen or destroyed) for over a month. I have since moved them to a new location. It would be great if Polaris a GM or CCP can give us more information on this. If this is possible for extended periods of time without ship loss then it will revolutionize how individuals and corps can function in 0.0 space...
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Seer
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:25:00 -
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OOOh and if someone can board ya ship thats a pain of course - wouldnt it be useful though that if it aint a member of ya corp that the new hacking skill rumoured to be coming soon(tm) was required to board the ship?
From a RP point of view I cannot imagine a Battleship without at least a basic car imobiliser :lol:
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Georg
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Posted - 2003.08.26 15:58:00 -
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There's been a couple of Reaper's (IIRC: newb frigates anyway) parked outside Stetille V station for about a week (since just past the last patch). Obviousy their previous owner hadn'theard of Trash It. They are both still there, although one has obviously been boarded as its owner changed a few days back. Problem is they are worthless so no one is boarding them.
Where would this moon with Imicus etc be?
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Ballard
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:02:00 -
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Can you give me more info on that "system wide scan"? The best I can do is warp to every celestial body in the system list and then do a scan by distance, which almost always takes forever to load and only seldomly goes more than 10M km's. Is there anything I'm missing?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:04:00 -
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There's been an unoccupied Vexor outside the University at Duripant for days now.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:07:00 -
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Can you give me more info on that "system wide scan"? The best I can do is warp to every celestial body in the system list and then do a scan by distance, which almost always takes forever to load and only seldomly goes more than 10M km's. Is there anything I'm missing?
Probably not. Max scanning range is about 14 AU, no way to increase it (it's probably due to programming, not some kind of sensor roleplay).
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Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2003.08.26 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 26/08/2003 18:49:29
Server down time came a bit quicker than I expected today, so I didn't have time to fly both the indy and the miner to the station. I powered down the indy and logged out sitting in the miner. When the server whent live again the indy was gone...
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.27 07:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Khouri on 27/08/2003 07:13:05
Little update:
Left my dominix at my safe spot in my pod yesterday and came back several hours later with a shuttle.
Dominix was thankfully still there. I stopped the shuttle and switched back to the dominix. (Which had some minor armor damage when I left him and none when I boarded him again, there seem still to be some bugs regarding this).
I'm not sure if the shuttle was still there when I logged on today and went for a short hunting trip, but when I came back to my safe spot the shuttle was definatly not there. Good it happend with a 10k shuttle and not a multimillion dominix. 
It seems that sometimes driverless ships stay where they are left for ages, sometimes they vanish in hours. Some dev explanation how that system with abandoned ships works would be quite usefull.
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2003.08.27 07:26:00 -
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A few months back I was using badger II left at bookmarks in deepspace, I left ships out for a week ot two at a time.
Ships are supposed to stay where you leave them, but you do have to remember to stop them, totaly, before ejecting. I had one ship wander off, but a petition got it back.
The old hidden badger gambit
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.27 08:44:00 -
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I know, I made sure the shuttle was stopped totally before I switched ships - and the shuttle was at the same spot the whole previous evening.
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Georg
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Posted - 2003.08.27 08:50:00 -
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Don't forget that anyone can fly and hence board a shuttle: you need specific skills trained before you can fly a battleship of any particular kind. As result a battleship is probably less likely to be stolen despite being a much bigger salvage prize.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.08.27 10:18:00 -
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Yes, that's right.
But in order to do this someone would have needed to
a) scan a dead end system over 20 jumps from the next station from several points with special scanning equipment to find my safe spot 7 au from the next warpable object and
b) would have travelled this ~1000 MILLION km with conventional drives (you cannot warp to objects you find per scan, only approach them) - which would take around 8 years with a 600 m/s shuttle.
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