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Megalift
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Posted - 2006.01.24 19:23:00 -
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Okay devs, here is an idea that poped in my head in the event you feel that a 2nd server is called for.
NEW EVE!
Let a worm hole devolop like the Eve gate did to here. have NPC corps build an GAINT gate thur it to an new galaxy. This gate players will dock at not jump both sides will act as one station (as far as market and what not). This will cause it to be a hub of major propotions.
Now lets not make it easy for ppl to go thur the gate (altought they can buy goods from the other side). Make it so they have to get a permit (maybe a corp or an allince has to get the premit to allow its members to go thur). Make it cost alot of isk or something has to be unlocked. Or make it a elite only place to go. Up to the devs and what they may think is best (assume this idea flys). And to go to this world it may take time, like maybe next down time (Im thinking you make this a total different server using a different cluster and possibliy a differnt internet connection, this idea is to be an alt server to speard the load). Maybe make it so ships cant go thur and only a clone can (but you might have to limit the market that is shared between the two sides then.
Now about the new world.
Let it start out with a few system that have a few NPC stations and stargates. Give these few system everything the players will need to expand. Good speard of roids, station with slots, or whatever may be needed.
Now let the players control how it expands out there. Let them build addition stargates and stations. Like the NPC corps hire the players to build SG and stations that they may need. Of course Let the players build thier own if they can build the resources.
Now you will need to provide a way to build stargates. A new ship class (that you can limit it to here) for a ship that can jump without a stargate and a shere will be useful. Make it so a stargate is built and this ship jumps and triggers a location for ths SG to jump to. So now you have a one way gate, then ships can jump thur and start building the SG on that side that will connect to the other gate (weather auto or by triggering the spot back, but if you trigger it back then player can play tricks).
Might be a great idea to speard load out to another server but yet still keep that one server feel. Maybe you can make it a pay for expanition to justify the extra work.
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Devestor
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Posted - 2006.01.24 21:09:00 -
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I though about this once, but then again, im proud, and i brag to my friends and co workers who play other MMO's that eve is one massive server. Also, i hate anything the excludes you, like ELITE places, i like it when you have a chance at everything, like eve. Also, i think either we should do something to push all the people out of empire, and into the outer areas of the universe, or add a few new regions. Like unlocking the Jove Space (drools)
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Megalift
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Posted - 2006.01.24 22:47:00 -
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Just think it will be petty cool to have a place you can go and it is totally player ran. Over time as stations go up most will likiy be player corp/alliance owned. Concord wouldnt be around but there should be limited concord like protection in the core systems. Just an idea that I thought was good enougth to share.
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croxis
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Posted - 2006.01.25 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: croxis on 25/01/2006 00:51:56
Not all of eve is populated yet (so i have heard), how can you say that we need another galaxy? Also massive war will be breaking out soon! I dont wanna leave I wanna play!
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Tsual
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Posted - 2006.01.25 19:36:00 -
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Sometimes I wonder how eve would be now if it had been released in the current form.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.01.25 22:04:00 -
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A great idea as long as:
You remove the "elite" bit since everyone should be allowed to migrate there if they want. This means the gate to it is in sec 0.5 or higher since a lot of people don't go lower so it would exclude them. Also a very high concord prescence surrounds it to prevent monopolising of the access route by big corps, gate campers and pirates. This includes any routes into and out of the system where this gate is on both sides.
I agree that if the new area was on a different cluster, it would certainly take the load off the existing one, even if the cluster that is being replaced is used to create the new system. That would put the servers that are being de-commissioned to some use, instead of using them for Eve, they are used to create "New Eve".
Nobody has to leave, everything is just as it has always been so the massive war that some are looking forward to can go ahead but those of us who don't want to participate in it can go elsewhere.
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croxis
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Posted - 2006.01.25 22:40:00 -
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In most cases those who migrate are not the wealthy but the poor (Europe to North America for example). Those who would leave would be people like me who are new but under pressure or those who lost a great deal. Rich people would not want to leave as there would be no infrastructure, unless they were willing to mine the resources and lug them on back to Old Eve. A game mechanic to prevent this would be to keep the more enriched sectors away from the wormhole.
Major pirating would also not want to move as the richer people would stay in old eve as stated above.
No it would be the poor and new with no reason to stay in old eve to start building the new universe. While I would love to participate in something like that (one of these days I want to join an exploration corp), I still think it would not be best for the current game.
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Commander Kahn'Alzaor
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Posted - 2006.01.26 02:47:00 -
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NO NO NO and NO
EVE Must stay on one server thats the critical idea that keeps me playing.
Plus in a few weeks we will have a new tranquility. :)
Who says we need another server.
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Medici
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Posted - 2006.01.26 12:05:00 -
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We are getting a new server I believe its called serenity?
Just have to polish up on my Mandarin and some Kanji and away I go..hehe.
Seriously EVE is great on 1 server,and looking at the map and thinking in 3d I see no reason why new areas cannot be added to the galaxy heck one could simply just keep adding to the outer rim areas on the galactic plane and there would be plenty of room.
Add to all this the intent of making planets accessable and there becomes a whole new gamespace opened up here also.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.26 13:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Commander Kahn'Alzaor
NO NO NO and NO
EVE Must stay on one server thats the critical idea that keeps me playing.
China's getting a second cluster, Serenity, so can I have your stuff?
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Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
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Grey Area
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Posted - 2006.01.26 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
China's getting a second cluster, Serenity, so can I have your stuff?
LOL. It's all a ploy. Once all the Chinese Macro miners have logged on to it, Tranquility will drop back to a sustainable 10,000 users or so, and the lag will disappear.
If only it were true...
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Megalift
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Posted - 2006.01.26 17:29:00 -
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Nothing I worte above is set in stone, it is just an idea. And it was not meant to be started right away. Personally with the new yarraware coming out, the devs have there hands full. But in the futurn thought this would be an opition for them to do when the server gets overcrowned again.
'elite' can be removed. That was just a random thought that went thur my mind at the time.
I agree that there will need to be some sort of protection at this gate (and the system) on both sides, but thing it should not be concord. The NPC corps that get control of it should handle the protection, large number of sentry guns at key points in the gate systems should do. I don't think concord should be in New Eve, but the players will have to handle thier protection. Give the tools to do so, like able to build sentry gun by gates and station--howbeit they will have to maintain it.
The core system should have a good speard of all the needed mins. If you want to keep ppl from pulling in these mins and resources to Eve, then limit the transport between these worlds...maybe a LARGE tax, or fee to transport. As I stated before ships should not be taken thur. This could be explained.
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Papandreou
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:30:00 -
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It's nice that EVE is one server but, if the player base continues to increase lag will become unbearable. It is hoped the new cluster will reduce lag in peak hrs to a reasonable level. If that doesn't do it then I think they need to think of multiple servers set up by geographical player base location such as one each for Europe and North/South America and one for Asia. This would cut me off from my friends in England though.
Such an idea would isolate the Chinese miners systematically stripping systems. Let them have their own server and electronically tag the currency to a server thus killing off the buying of game currency. online.
Just my humble opinion as an honest miner who doesn't need to be afk or use macros to make millions. 
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:38:00 -
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It's fun to see that people who have no idea about basic clustering concepts are out again sharing their views on how sharding is the solution to lag 
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