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Posted - 2013.10.08 11:59:00 -
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No it's fine.
The new interceptors get rid of those f***ing 50+ large bubbels on a gate trying to stop anything from getting into the system.
Now you have to actually protect your ratting carrier/system. Not just be there and farm ISK afk. FFS this is 0.0 not high sec.
Get some back up into the anomalie or on the gate and protect your ass. Place smartbombs BS on a few gates etc. not just whine about them being op... use your brain and protect your stuff. |
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Posted - 2013.10.08 12:23:00 -
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Giullare wrote:Lol idiot, that's not the problem.
We are talking about dropping carriers on 3 rupture camping a gate because new overpowered force projection.
Also u have no clue of what happen in 0.0 from what u have written.
thx for calling me an idiot... well if you wanna go down that road...
the **** you've written already happens...
U have no clue of what happen in EVE from what u have written, idiot.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 12:30:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Giullare wrote:We are talking about dropping carriers on 3 rupture camping a gate because new overpowered force projection. I assume you exaggerate to emphasise a scale of a problem because if that's real life example I think nullified ceptors are not an issue here.
QFT
Doesn't matter if you get dropped by 3 carriers, or 50 legions or even 6 supers... Cepters, indeed, are not the problem or cause of force projection.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:06:00 -
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again... the new interceptors are NOT op, here's why:
Force Projection:
Cyno alts are already all over EVE, ready to go if **** goes down somewhere... If some tries to shoot an I-Hub these days, someone knows already, someone has a cyno already in system. So no, the new inties are not the problem with force projection.
It only maybe helps smaller groups to burn a cyno somewhere if they don't have 1000 cyno alts.
Carebearing:
Keep your 50 bubbels on a gate, nothing other then a ceptor or t3 can ignore them. If you're scared of 1 ceptor something is wrong. If said ceptor has a cyno then use the cyno jammer on your grid.
If you mine in a group 20-40 drones will **** a ceptor... or keep someone there to guard you. they have 6-8k ehp tops.
If you still get tackled & die you deserved it. ANYONE actually playing the game and pays attention won't die to the new ceptors.
also scouts/intelchannels FTW. |
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:46:00 -
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The Cyno Jammer will have a range of 70-100km. Even if it only has 50km range, NO ceptor is able to point @ 50km, hell even target that far... even if he is, he deservs to point you, becasue that dude just spend alot of ISK on a 20m ship.
You DON'T need a gazzillion scouts. Only 1, next door or 2 out what ever. If a ceptor enters that system you just warp out early enough.
Let's say you're stupid and still get tackled from 50km then the ceptor can't move and a cyno goes up... let a arty nado sit next too you, which insta locks & insta pops it. even if the cyno went up there is some delay on the other side which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to jump a lachesis trough which can lock you in 1 second & cyno up again. And nothing can warp within jam range.
You're just probably scared that you can't just sit anymore alone all day long by yourself and just warp as soon as someone enters local. Intercepters now can catch stuff if you're slow, playing an MMO alone or not paying too much attention to the game you're playing.
TEAM up and no harm will come to you from the new ceptors.
also, fyi, there is a pos mod that can jamm the entire system... just so you know.
Even if it's a ceptor with a gang behind it, bubbels still slow THEM down, giving you the time to fight of the ceptor. If you can't you die, that's how eve works.
Even if they bring a ceptor and nully t3, they again deserve it, cause they spend alot of isk on their fleet. Proper working Intels & again scout, aka actually PLAYING THE **** TOGETHER keeps you save. |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 14:50:00 -
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Giullare wrote:Thread derailed, all was about force projection.
Travel time across systems, immunity to any attempt to lock if properly fitted and capacity of fitting a cyno.
Nullified ceptor is immune to anything because with 3 inertia it warps faster then overview delay + locking time assuming u are even faster than a rabbit to ctrl + click it.
It has nothing to do with 50 bubbles on gate.
If u want to hunt in these systems there's allready a solution t3 + covert cyno, no bubbles and no jammer can stop u.
I brought attention to the fact a ceptor can now travel 3 systems/ min and instant warp if properly fitted.
Need @ least to nerf cargohold to like 50 m3 to not allow to ligth cyno with only 1 exapanded cargohold.
It should need a full rack of expanded cargohold or some powergrid modules.
AGAIN... the problem with force projection is not the new ceptor, it's what sits on the other side of the cyno. Bridging 300ppl in generall.
There is no difference between a covert being already in system & just waiting still **** hits the fan, or a ceptor burnig there. Either way, you'll see it coming, so prepare for it. the new cyno jammer makes projection already different... we still have to see it's range and all.
But a fleet jumping in @ around 70km isn't a big problem if you're not bubbeld to **** already. then it doesn't matter what lights the cyno... |
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Posted - 2013.10.10 16:05:00 -
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Giullare wrote:WTS 150 mil sp char, wtb 500k sp char with 100 ceptors in bundle.
Guys seriously if u can't see an imbalance between a nullified ceptor that cost 20 mil and a t3...
i thought it was about force projection... >.>
What can a 20mil nully frig do:
- finaly catch stuff
- barely fit a cyno
- maybe can solo a cruiser
What cna a 500m+ nully cruiser do:
- everything!!!
so no, i don't see an imbalance between a 20m ship and a 500m ship |
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