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Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
36
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Posted - 2013.10.08 18:57:00 -
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Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens.
It has come to my attention in monitoring the communications here that it seems to be something of a fad for capsuleers to demean the God Appointed Empress Jamyl I. I cannot understand what would lead an Amarrian to such heresy as to question the legitimate Empress as confirmed by the Theology Council and Heirs. It represents a total failure of the test of faith and a betrayal of all that is holy and right in the universe.
In response, PIE Inc. will be compiling a list of all those who question the Empress. Those who are put on this list will be considered traitors to Amarr by PIE inc and will be treated as such. This list will also be sent to the MIO, so that proper legal proceedings can be brought against those who have damned themselves with their words against the Holy Empress.
I would ask that those who are still loyal to God and Amarr keep an eye out for those who would dare blaspheme Empress Jamyl and that they would contact me if they see any treacherous words.
By his light and his will we will do whatever it takes to excise this horrid cancer.
The angelic Apostles of Heaven sing praises for their children!
Our Lord smiles upon the world.
Where the Emperor rules in his name
Leading his people to glory untold.
Hearken the trumpets of Heaven
Hailing the people of Amarr!
Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3 |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:01:00 -
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I question the validity of the Empress.
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force
Cult of War
1413
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:02:00 -
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It's incredibly tempting to change my citizenship just so I can be put on this list.
Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
331
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:12:00 -
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Can we see this list ? |
Rosen Thornn
House of Nightshade
21
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:30:00 -
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You should look inward to see what threatens your Empress. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
24eme Legion Etrangere
139
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:37:00 -
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Gaven Lok'ri wrote:In response, PIE Inc. will be compiling a list of all those who question the Empress. Those who are put on this list will be considered traitors to Amarr by PIE inc and will be treated as such. This list will also be sent to the MIO, so that proper legal proceedings can be brought against those who have damned themselves with their words against the Holy Empress. How very exciting! PIE Inc. acting as clerks of the Ministry of Internal Order! And if I understand you right, the Ministry is supposed to do the work, while you sit back and sign lists? How very PIE!
Gaven Lok'ri wrote:I would ask that those who are still loyal to God and Amarr keep an eye out for those who would dare blaspheme Empress Jamyl and that they would contact me if they see any treacherous words. Yah, I am sure your inbox will be flooded soon... I on the other hand would expect that those who are still loyal to God and Amarr would stop just keeping eyes and start to act...
Odelya d'Hanguest
Book of Prayers GÇö Download GÇö Viva la Legion! |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1855
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:41:00 -
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Pyre Falcon thanks the good Admiral for keeping us informed as to these matters but has no public opinion on what is, after all, purely an internal matter for our allies. |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
38
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:52:00 -
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Quote:PIE Inc. acting as clerks of the Ministry of Internal Order! And if I understand you right, the Ministry is supposed to do the work, while you sit back and sign lists? How very PIE!
While I would love to execute you personally for your words, heretic, and will do so happily if you ever leave the service of the militia, it is not PIE's place to revoke titles. That is the Ministry of Internal Order's bailiwick, and it would be absurd for a Military organization in service to the Office of Emperor to try and claim that role.
But then, someone who dares question the Theology Council and the Empress wouldn't understand following proper procedure.
Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3 |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
38
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:58:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Pyre Falcon thanks the good Admiral for keeping us informed as to these matters but has no public opinion on what is, after all, purely an internal matter for our allies.
PIE inc thanks Pyre for acting as an ally should in such internal matters.
Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3 |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1065
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:02:00 -
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Would PIE care to comment on "heretic" Odeyla and the reasons for labeling her as such?
I would then of course ask the obvious follow-up as to why such a person would be a member of the 24th Imperial Crusade?
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Amann Karris
Yulai Enclave
31
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:07:00 -
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May I ask if my recent comments will merit my inclusion on this list? |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
38
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:10:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Would PIE care to comment on "heretic" Odeyla and the reasons for labeling her as such?
Have you been reading her posts from the last week? I would think it should be pretty self evident.
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I would then of course ask the obvious follow-up as to why such a person would be a member of the 24th Imperial Crusade?
Because her brand of heresy still involves a loyalty to a concept of Amarr, even if it is a false one. That much I can respect. In the grand scheme of things that makes her heresy significantly less damning than yours.
As standard PIE policy, while heretics serve in the crusade we will not retaliate militarily against them. The war against Shakor takes priority over treacherous words and beliefs. But that does not make those treacherous words or beliefs acceptable.
Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3 |
Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
38
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:12:00 -
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Amann Karris wrote:May I ask if my recent comments will merit my inclusion on this list?
Yes. Though in a less severe category than some.
Lord Admiral of PIE Inc."Face the enemy as a solid wall /-áFor faith is your armor /-áAnd through it, the enemy will find no breach /-áWrap your arms around the enemy /-áFor faith is your fire-áAnd with it, burn away his evil"- The Scriptures, Amarr Askura 10:3 |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1065
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:32:00 -
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Gaven Lok'ri wrote:The war against Shakor takes priority over treacherous words and beliefs.
This does not sound like you.
There's an old saying you might remember, to the effect of "suffer not a single heretic, though a whole world may burn as a result."
There was a time not so many years ago, when True Amarr brother and sister capsuleers would settle this sort of thing immediately, political consequences be damned.
You remember.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Amann Karris
Yulai Enclave
31
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:33:00 -
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All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all;
When thine heart shines with the Light, thou shalt know no hardship;
When thine actions are in Light's name, thou art immortal.
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:1 |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2178
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:34:00 -
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Ishuk-Raata considers the announcement by Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris duly noted, and will pass this information along to our personnel operating in Imperial space or territories.
As always, Ishuk-Raata baseline personnel within Imperial borders are well informed they fall under Imperial jurisdiction and are responsible for learning and upholding Imperial laws, including those relevant to this discussion. For this purpose, we would prefer to be informed if any of our people somehow find their way on this list.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:36:00 -
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Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?
I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....
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Amann Karris
Yulai Enclave
31
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:42:00 -
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Anslo wrote:I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....
I believe you are misreading the statement. Specifically:
Quote:Those who are put on this list will be considered traitors to Amarr by PIE inc and will be treated as such.
Which means they are taking it upon themselves to act as judge, jury, and if need be executioner, while also letting the Empire know what's going on.
Alerting the MIO is secondary. They are treating individuals as traitors without even allowing those of Holder status their right to honorable duel.
As a Capsuleer organization that is within their right; they also know the MIO has no authority over Capsuleers. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2179
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:43:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?
I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....
I find it odd that you would rather, or are at least suggesting, an Imperial entity focus more on killing your allies than focus on Imperial internal issues.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera
JIHADASQUAD
1065
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:45:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Alright. Inappropriate facetiousness aside, I need to actually ask something here. Your worlds and systems rest in the hands of the Minmatar, your sworn enemy you vowed to bring back under the banner of Amarr, and you're making a list? Why don't you leave that to the MIO, you know...as it's their job? Why do you think they are incapable of handling this?
I don't understand why you're wasting time declaring a new 'list' to be made and handed over to MIO essentially saying I'M TELLING I'M TELLING instead of taking back your worlds. For the love of Gods, I thought this was a joke at first. But no, you're actually doing this. Unbelievable....
That you'd ask such a question means you don't understand the point, Mr. Anslo. And this might not be the thread for outsiders to be participating in. Some irony for my involvement notwithstanding this is what you might refer to as an 'internal' Amarr conversation.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2842
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Posted - 2013.10.08 20:47:00 -
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Hey, I asked a question. Whatever. Jump on me more.
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Andrea Okazon
Alexylva Paradox
166
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:30:00 -
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On the off chance that this is more than just the usual empty posturing we capsuleers are so well-known for, I'd like to take this opportunity to remind those targeted for their religious beliefs that we don't do things like that over here in the Fed. As long as you're willing to live with those who don't believe as you do, and refrain from violence against them, you can believe anything you darn well please.
We would be delighted to have you visit until the heat clears up. It usually does, inquisitors always get distracted by some new horror. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
24eme Legion Etrangere
139
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:39:00 -
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Amann Karris wrote:Which means they are taking it upon themselves to act as judge, jury, and if need be executioner, while also letting the Empire know what's going on. No, by all means, good Lord Karris, just judge and juryGǪ
Amann Karris wrote:Alerting the MIO is secondary. They are treating individuals as traitors without even allowing those of Holder status their right to honorable duel. What more needs to be said!
Katrina Oniseki wrote:As always, Ishuk-Raata baseline personnel within Imperial borders are well informed they fall under Imperial jurisdiction and are responsible for learning and upholding Imperial laws, including those relevant to this discussion. Admiral Oniseki,
you might also inform your personnel traveling through or operating in Royal space or territories that we donGÇÖt give a frog. Fortunately, the Kingdom and the Empire remain two separate realms, whatever preposterous poppycock all those little bags of vipers might otherwise claimGǪ
Best,
Odelya dGÇÖHanguest
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Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
266
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:47:00 -
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I pray that Blessed Amarr can be purged of these heretical beliefs. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2181
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:52:00 -
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Odelya d'Hanguest wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:As always, Ishuk-Raata baseline personnel within Imperial borders are well informed they fall under Imperial jurisdiction and are responsible for learning and upholding Imperial laws, including those relevant to this discussion. Admiral Oniseki, you might also inform your personnel traveling through or operating in Royal space or territories that we donGÇÖt give a frog. Fortunately, the Kingdom and the Empire remain two separate realms, whatever preposterous poppycock all those little bags of vipers might otherwise claimGǪ Best, Odelya dGÇÖHanguest
I am not entirely sure what "giving a frog" means, I'll assume it is either a euphemism or translation error for something vulgar. That said, our personnel are also duly informed the very same regarding Kingdom law when they operate there. It's the same situation for any of our workers who operate outside the State.
I did not think I was making any offensive remark about the Kingdom or yourself, despite the Lord Admiral's mention of your name. I merely meant to state that Ishuk-Raata will observe and attempt to respect PIE's announcement, as we would hope they would respect our own announcements regarding our efforts to uphold State laws.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
331
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:56:00 -
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I am reminded of that old joke.
Two True Amarr enter a room. They both immediately denounce the other as a heretic. |
Desiderya
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
455
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Posted - 2013.10.08 22:15:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Hey, I asked a question. Whatever. Jump on me more.
Did you have a tough day?
Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
24eme Legion Etrangere
140
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Posted - 2013.10.08 22:15:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I am not entirely sure what "giving a frog" means, I'll assume it is either a euphemism or translation error for something vulgar. That said, our personnel are also duly informed the very same regarding Kingdom law when they operate there. It's the same situation for any of our workers who operate outside the State.
I did not think I was making any offensive remark about the Kingdom or yourself, despite the Lord Admiral's mention of your name. I merely meant to state that Ishuk-Raata will observe and attempt to respect PIE's announcement, as we would hope they would respect our own announcements regarding our efforts to uphold State laws.
Admiral Oniseki,
no doubt, you didnGÇÖt make a single offensive remark towards the Kingdom or myself. Ishuk-RaataGÇÖs stance on this matter and the clear division between Kingdom and Empire law is exemplary.
I deemed it necessary, however, to inform Admiral Nomarya of the Royal Khanid Navy about Lok'riGÇÖs shockingly outrageous impertinence towards a holder of the Kingdom, which not only insults the Kingdom, but crosses every commonsensical line of jurisdictionGÇöwhich he doesnGÇÖt even possess in this case.
Odelya dGÇÖHanguest
Samira Kernher wrote:I pray that Blessed Amarr can be purged of these heretical beliefs. Pray, little dove, and also you might be freed.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
410
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Posted - 2013.10.08 22:29:00 -
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Glad to see we are taking a stand on this, Admiral. Even if those like Ms. d'Hanguest are not direct subjects of the Empress they should at very least show some respect. I expect the MIO to be no more than mildly bemused by their opinons, but I am always for telling people to mind their manners. |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
24eme Legion Etrangere
140
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Posted - 2013.10.08 22:39:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Glad to see we are taking a stand on this, Admiral. Even if those like Ms. d'Hanguest are not direct subjects of the Empress they should at very least show some respect. I expect the MIO to be no more than mildly bemused by their opinons, but I am always for telling people to mind their manners. So now it is the place of failed court poets to judge the nobles? Yah, a party of foolish jesters you truly are. And you dare to talk about GÇ£understanding following proper procedure.GÇ¥ Preposterous. Preposterous. Preposterous!
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