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Olivia Miralles
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:02:00 -
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Hey guys,
Looking for a 45b loan for current investments that I am going to be expanding upon.
Full Collateral Available.
Please contact me in game to register your interest.
Loan term is 3 months. Looking to start immediately.
Cheers,
/O |

Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:25:00 -
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If the collateral is reasonable, I will fill this. |

RAW23
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:27:00 -
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What's the collateral?
And btw, you'll get this filled at considerably under 4.5%. I would suggest 2.5-3 for a quick fill but 2% will do it if you're willing to wait a little bit (although even at that rate I wouldn't think you will have to wait long).
Edit - One of the people I guessed would fill at 2% posted while I was typing unfortunately. There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |

Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.08 19:52:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Please contact me in game to register your interest. Please do not force me to log in. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1497
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:19:00 -
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And so the vultures arrived .... 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Emily Khan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.08 21:37:00 -
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mail sent |

Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.09 04:15:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Collat is
Archon T2 CCC's x2 T1 CCC x1
x20 That is not 40B of collateral.
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Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.09 07:04:00 -
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I will offer 20B at 3% against that collateral. If you need a third party then I will accept Chribba or Grendel at your expense. |

Olivia Miralles
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 08:03:00 -
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Blueprint Seller wrote:I will offer 20B at 3% against that collateral. If you need a third party then I will accept Chribba or Grendel at your expense. I do not spend 100% collateral for 50% of loan amount. |

Blueprint Seller
The Blueprint Shop
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Posted - 2013.10.09 08:18:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Blueprint Seller wrote:I will offer 20B at 3% against that collateral. If you need a third party then I will accept Chribba or Grendel at your expense. I do not spend 100% collateral for 50% of loan amount. I do not offer 100% of loan amount for 50% collateral. |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.09 08:32:00 -
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It would have been a perfectly good scam if it wasn't for the incompetent attempting it. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2013.10.09 13:05:00 -
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To be fair, she probably spent 40b+ on those leading up to Odyssey, it's just not worth that now even if you count the rigs as capitals at 100% of their market value.
Bad Bobby wrote:It would have been a perfectly good scam if it wasn't for the incompetent attempting it.
Have you seen Alice Saki's 3rd party thread? It isn't any better and there's several people complaining about being scammed for their Supercarriers in it. .
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Setsune Rin
Bite Me inc Bitten.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:03:00 -
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to be fair, thats worth like 36b 1b per archon 800m for 2x t2 rigs
due to the current build cost of archons i'd take a little bit more then 10% extra collateral
so 32b or therabouts?
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.09 14:21:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:to be fair, thats worth like 36b 1b per archon 800m for 2x t2 rigs How many people do you know that want to buy an archon?
How many people do you know that want to buy a CCC rigged archon?
How many people do you know that want to pay 1.8B for a T2 CCC rigged archon?
How many people are currently trying to offload T2 large-rigged archons? |

Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.10.09 15:03:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Setsune Rin wrote:to be fair, thats worth like 36b 1b per archon 800m for 2x t2 rigs How many people do you know that want to buy an archon? How many people do you know that want to buy a CCC rigged archon? How many people do you know that want to pay 1.8B for a T2 CCC rigged archon? How many people are currently trying to offload T2 large-rigged archons?
BB, stop trying to make SENSE of things, it makes the less intelligent cry.
It occurs to me that this would be a very good "sell 20 rigged Archons quickly" scheme. |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.09 15:29:00 -
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Tigerras wrote:It occurs to me that this would be a very good "sell 20 rigged Archons quickly" scheme. Only if it succeeded.
For all we know the deal could have been done by now, but I am doubtful given the mistakes made.
I cannot truely say that the OP intended this as a stock dump. It could have been a loan attempt or it could have been some other type of scam. Your guess is as good as mine.
Still, I think it was a mistake to unreasonably inflate the value of the collateral, I think it was a foolish to ask for in-game contact in the way it was asked for, I think it was wrong to post the collateral in the thread given the other mistakes made and it was pretty questionable to fit CCC rigs to the archons in the first place.
Of course, the OP could know better than me and could be laughing all the way to the bank right now. But even still I'd say that he was flying pretty close to the sun on this one. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 15:40:00 -
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Tigerras wrote:Bad Bobby wrote:Setsune Rin wrote:to be fair, thats worth like 36b 1b per archon 800m for 2x t2 rigs How many people do you know that want to buy an archon? How many people do you know that want to buy a CCC rigged archon? How many people do you know that want to pay 1.8B for a T2 CCC rigged archon? How many people are currently trying to offload T2 large-rigged archons? BB, stop trying to make SENSE of things, it makes the less intelligent cry.It occurs to me that this would be a very good "sell 20 rigged Archons quickly" scheme.
I must confess ... i'm litterally drowning in my own tears ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
735
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Posted - 2013.10.09 15:52:00 -
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Op came to me asking for a loan, I offered a significantly lower isk amount than he wanted, he rejected the offer. I suggest he posted the collateral here, to avoid any confusion or time wasting for him and everyone else.
Oh and hello MD.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:00:00 -
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Grendell wrote:Op came to me asking for a loan, I offered a significantly lower isk amount than he wanted, he rejected the offer. I suggest he posted the collateral here, to avoid any confusion or time wasting for him and everyone else. Oh and hello MD. 
Good morning grendell how are you on this lovely day?
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.09 16:15:00 -
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Grendell wrote:Op came to me asking for a loan In that case, I'm putting my chips on "honest fool". I find it far more plausible that someone would approach you about this honestly than dishonestly, because the level of stupidity required for the latter is so much higher than for the former.
Grendell wrote:Oh and hello MD.  Good evening, Mr. G.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1499
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:18:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Grendell wrote:Op came to me asking for a loan In that case, I'm putting my chips on "honest fool". I find it far more plausible that someone would approach you about this honestly than dishonestly, because the level of stupidity required for the latter is so much higher than for the former. Grendell wrote:Oh and hello MD.  Good evening, Mr. G.
Hi , your new to eve aren't you? 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.09 17:25:00 -
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flakeys wrote:Hi , your new to eve aren't you?  Stupidity may be infinite, just like space, but the amount of space between someone's ears is finite, just like their stupidity. |

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
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Posted - 2013.10.09 21:03:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:flakeys wrote:Hi , your new to eve aren't you?  Stupidity may be infinite, just like space, but the amount of space between someone's ears is finite, just like their stupidity.
There might be a limit, but we definitely haven't reached it yet. .
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Olivia Miralles
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2013.10.10 09:40:00 -
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Hello fellow spacepilots,
It has taken me some time to reply as my friend to translate this properly hasn't been online. The loan is still available if someone were to want to take it up.
I have posted this loan so that I can expand current investments into the future. I personally feel that the collateral is sufficient and have lowered the total bond from the original amount to accommodate. I require that people looking to invest contact me ingame due to how hard it can be sometimes to translate large amounts. It is far easier for me to be able to try to put my point across in a conversation for example.
If you require further information please feel free to contact me ingame this includes via mail due to its less formal format or by conversation and I will do my best to get back to you.
Thanks |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
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Posted - 2013.10.10 10:25:00 -
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Some people you just can't reach. |

flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:52:00 -
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Bad Bobby wrote:Some people you just can't reach.
High five guns and roses fans all over the world 
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
1502
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Posted - 2013.10.10 11:54:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Hello fellow spacepilots,
I personally feel that the collateral is sufficient
It is not about what YOU feel is sufficient though .....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Speculation Dave
Tiericide Kings
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Posted - 2013.10.10 12:53:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Archon T2 CCC's x2 T1 CCC x1 Um why are CCCs where the trimarks normally go?
Are you planning to send these back in time or something?
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited Superior Eve Engineering
735
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Posted - 2013.10.10 13:46:00 -
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Olivia Miralles wrote:Hello fellow spacepilots,
It has taken me some time to reply as my friend to translate this properly hasn't been online. The loan is still available if someone were to want to take it up.
I have posted this loan so that I can expand current investments into the future. I personally feel that the collateral is sufficient and have lowered the total bond from the original amount to accommodate. I require that people looking to invest contact me ingame due to how hard it can be sometimes to translate large amounts. It is far easier for me to be able to try to put my point across in a conversation for example.
If you require further information please feel free to contact me ingame this includes via mail due to its less formal format or by conversation and I will do my best to get back to you.
Thanks Hello Olivia,
My offer for 20b @ 4% is still available. Because of the abundance of this type of product available on the market and the fact the collateral is spread out I am not willing to offer more isk or a lower interest rate. let me know if you change your mind, I'll be around!
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.10.10 15:24:00 -
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Speculation Dave wrote:Olivia Miralles wrote:Archon T2 CCC's x2 T1 CCC x1 Um why are CCCs where the trimarks normally go? Are you planning to send these back in time or something?
Building a flux capacitor out of Archons.....
I think we could do it. |
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