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Shallazar
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Posted - 2006.01.25 20:42:00 -
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I just got my first lvl4 mission, and it was vengence, assasinate Draben Kuvakei the Sansha leader.
I was in a Raven and friend was in a Prophecy. Thought first lvl4 would be ok with 1 support ship, as done all the lvl3's solo.
Accel gate put me right on top of another gate with rocks around me. Could move. Theres a huge list of ships and quite a few battleships from what I could tell in the panic.
Anyway, shields were gone before I knew and friend was in deep trouble. He got out, I got scrambled (had 1 wcs fitted) and got delay by about a minute getting out and only had 44% structure left when i made it to safety.
Think I killed 1 ship and am seriously scared of going back!
Should this mission be do-able by 2 of us? Is there a specific strategy / ship fitting I should use?
If anyone could offer some help I would be grateful. Just seems like a real tough one to be given as first lvl4 assignment. 
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10of12
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Posted - 2006.01.25 20:50:00 -
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For this mission you will need a very good tank. I do missions for Gurista and have fitted as tank :
2 hardners, XL Shieldbooster II, 2 amps and in low 5 PDU II's. Start with killing the webbers scramblers and try to only agro 1 group at a time (i did notice last time on first warp-in all ships agro'd while when i got back only 2 ships agro'd at once)
In the third part is a 2.5 mil BS with a very good tank. You might have to refit your ship for him (also in this lvl are 4 turrets at 100+ km which do a lot of damage)
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Shallazar
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:01:00 -
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Thanks for posting.
Have you done this solo in BS then, or were you part of a group? (if so what constitution?. Looks like we were unlucky with the warp in point then or something, as just had ships all over me before I could even work out what opponents we had and what ships they were in.
I'm wondering whether we just need to get the strategy right, or if we infact do need a bigger fleet for this one. I will look at your tanking setup, thanks.
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10of12
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Posted - 2006.01.25 21:46:00 -
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I solo all lvl4 missions, but i do have 25mil skillpoints (most equipment i use is T2). So the mission is possible to solo, though it's not really a mission to learn lvl4 missions ;)
Main thing to do is to get a very good tank, maybe use a capbooster to hold your tank longer and kill any webbing/scrambling rats as soon as possible. And if possible take some-one with you who knows the mission.
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Buraken v2
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Posted - 2006.01.25 22:29:00 -
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Where do you do the mission? maybe i can comeby and make a quick help and show ya how its done.
 Originally by: Sergio Ling
have you read the news AT ALL? there's your offical response. people, is it a case of 'omg i r angry, to the forums i go?'
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Morro Terminus
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Posted - 2006.01.25 23:22:00 -
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I did the Guristas version this morning. I usually do most of my level 4's in my Cerberus. But had to go get the Raven and torps to kill the 2.5 mil Boss on the last level.
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DazWozUK
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Posted - 2006.01.27 11:14:00 -
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Did this mission last night. Got to the last stage no probs then got stuck in a stalemate with the boss, i could tank him and he could tank me. I swapped my bane torps for Juggernaught torps and took him out in a couple of mins. To break his tank you need to hit him with Kinetic damage.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2006.01.28 03:15:00 -
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I just did this mission in my Zealot, and as long as you aggro one group at a time its fine
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Clavius XIV
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Posted - 2006.01.28 09:06:00 -
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I've done this mission with the Arbitrator (with some warping out). It looks scary when you warp in but they don't all agro at once.
Hanns advice is very sound.
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2006.01.28 11:38:00 -
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1nd and 2nd stage should be soloable in BS without much problems.
For 3rd stage 2BS'es are advicable.
1st one who enter 3rd stage will have sentries lock and they can be tanket without probs. It is important for to not shoot back.
2nd BS than enter pocket and shoot to any of rats. He will have rats lock on him.
At this point 1st person can start poping sentries and after dusted all of them he can switch on rat targets. Depending of 2nd person tanking capabilities, remote large shield or armour helps much.
Most important thing in 3rd stage is not having sentries and rats hitting you at same time.
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El Berto
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Posted - 2006.01.28 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: DazWozUK
Did this mission last night. Got to the last stage no probs then got stuck in a stalemate with the boss, i could tank him and he could tank me. I swapped my bane torps for Juggernaught torps and took him out in a couple of mins. To break his tank you need to hit him with Kinetic damage.
Just a hint... you should ONLY use kinetic damage against gurista - explosive is for angels now post-RMR.
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Jannos Creed
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Posted - 2006.01.28 15:27:00 -
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have done the Gurista version several times, I had to warp out the first time at the last stage when i tried to save the Sentry IIIs for last. Each subsequent time since then, I've taken the sentries out first, and it was smooth sailing after that. I do this in a Cerberus, and Rachen Mysuna is indeed tough, but still doable solo.
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Hephaesteus
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Posted - 2006.01.28 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Hephaesteus on 28/01/2006 16:13:40
Did the Serpentis version last night in my Raven but should be similiar but sansha do em & therm
used this set up
6x arby siege
2x heavy nos
1x XL shield booster
2x kinetic hardener
2x thermic hardener
1x shield amp
5x pdu
All of my stuff is T2 or faction but if you have a bud to help it shouldn't make a diff. The Raven tanks and deals with the big stuff (that means you go first  ) the other ship takes out the tacklers.
The main thing about lvl4 missions is not to panic when you get in there and if you're not sure what you are facing take a shuttle and have a look.
Oh yeah try not to aggro more than one group at a time wait to see whats happening or ask someone that knows.
Happy hunting 
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Hanns
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Posted - 2006.01.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Clavius XIV
I've done this mission with the Arbitrator (with some warping out). It looks scary when you warp in but they don't all agro at once.
Hanns advice is very sound.
You did this lvl 4 agent mission in a teir 1 tech 1 cruiser?
/emote *Hanns bows before Clavius XIV
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Thales Archon
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Posted - 2006.02.03 03:07:00 -
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I lost my Raven last night to this one. :( I was not setup properly for it, truth be told... I was lulled into complacency by the relative ease of the first two stages.
As posted before, the third stage has a bunch of tacklers and the big 2.5mil BS. What I was not expecting (and I'm only speaking of the Serpentis version here, others may be different) is that the BS has a MWD (!) so he closes with you almost immediately. Not a big deal in of itself, but the tacklers are able to warp scramble you. It's the first time I've been scrambled in a mission, as far as I know, and by the time I realized it, there were too many tacklers to defeat at once (I think there's four). When the cruisers and the second BS arrived to help out big daddy, it was over pretty quick. I was nicely aligned, watching the glowing blue Autopilot button sitting there. :
Word to the wise is to take out those tacklers first. Then trade shots with the big BS. He's an armor tanker, btw.
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Lefia
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Posted - 2006.02.03 06:24:00 -
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Hanns,
Mind sharing your Zealot setup? I've been pondering taking mine into level 4 missions, and wouldn't mind seeing how your setup compares to mine. Would greatly appreciate it if you would let me know.
Originally by: hired goon
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Gairon Fay
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Posted - 2006.02.03 11:30:00 -
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I solo this mission with my Cerberus. It¦s tough but doable but it takes a long time to break the final shieldtank on the 2,5 million BS, but perseverance wins out in the end. But it¦s one of the tougher lvl 4 for sure.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.02.03 12:43:00 -
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Sanshas vengence should be reletivly easy if you have the right setup.
I have heard of a prophecy tanking it with 2 med reps, and soloing the whole map upto the boss but if you fit for getting your EM and Thermal resistance to 80%, you should be able to tank virtually all spawns on a single t2 large armour rep.
The first gate is perhaps the hardest, since the whole group aggros you if you shoot the wrong ship. My suggestion is to tank the damage and move out of the cloud field. Now you can start firing back. Be careful, since sometimes you can aggro the whole map.
For the second gate, you get aggroed by a BS and a few cruisers. No big deal. The spawns here should also be rather easy since they are all far away from each other.
Thrid gate, the sentries have a range of 50km. So pop them at 51km or ignore them. These are sentry III's and they will crush people who are not prepared. What I do is rather lazy. I just aggro everyone, wait till draben is at a 90 degree angle to me, and then AB to him fireing all guns and drones. If you are new to lvl4's, then you wont have a chance to break his tank, so bring a friend as well. The reason for the 90 degree angle is so that I dont chase him into the sentries.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2006.02.04 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Lefia
Hanns,
Mind sharing your Zealot setup? I've been pondering taking mine into level 4 missions, and wouldn't mind seeing how your setup compares to mine. Would greatly appreciate it if you would let me know.
sure Linkage
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.02.04 09:44:00 -
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The gurista one is fairly easy in a Raven with almost all t1 gear.
6x siege launchers some small guns for anti frig work...
4 hardeners Large booster 2 shield amp
pds 2s/bcus.
Warp in aggro one and only one group at a time (note some of the npcs aggro based on distance so don't move too much).
Level 1 is harder simply due to more cruisers than bses which take longer to kill with bs sized guns.
Level 3 is the nasty part. You warp in (for the guristas one) with 4 sentry gun 3s hitting you. If you return fire everything aggros you. And to make it funny the guns are at 110km.
IF you have long range targeting 4 just close to 90km fire 3 volleys of torps, switch targets and you should be able to kill 3 or all of the turrets before your shield collapses. Warp out in armor/hull/whatever and head back in.
Now the damage is cut down to negligable and you can finish it off easilly.
I don't bother using named gear on my ships and only use T2 stuff when it's close by and cheap. On missions it doesn't really matter much.
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Akip
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Posted - 2006.02.04 16:01:00 -
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I did that mission almost solo (I had friend in ferox in last gate) in Muninn.
the first 2 gates were easy - one group aggro at the time, with last one so many frigs can web you and you loose your speed, what is needed for evaide fire form BSs
ship setup and tactics is most important in lvl4s
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FZappa
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Posted - 2006.02.04 17:49:00 -
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thats one nice setup hanns , how the hell did u get
to 12k armor hp with just one tungsten plates
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: FZappa
thats one nice setup hanns , how the hell did u get
to 12k armor hp with just one tungsten plates
He has a full set of slave implants and another for an extra 8% armour.
@ the OP. The vengeange is a bit fudged, sometimes the whole lot aggro you on warp in. It's happened to me a few times.
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Spartan III
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hanns
Originally by: Lefia
Hanns,
Mind sharing your Zealot setup? I've been pondering taking mine into level 4 missions, and wouldn't mind seeing how your setup compares to mine. Would greatly appreciate it if you would let me know.
sure Linkage
Just remember to look at the armor he has on it. He gets that from awsome implants.
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Shamrock McShake
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Posted - 2006.02.05 21:43:00 -
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This one is giving me a hard time too.... The first 2 stages I can handle alright(this is the guristas version, and I'm in a raven), but in the third stage, those sentry 3's destroy me. I can tank them long enough to take out the frigs, but they have incredible range(upwards of 120km), so I'm pretty beat by the time I'm close enough to do much damage to them, and taking one of the three BSs present is out of the question... Any advice on those sentry 3's? I'm not really sure what the limits of their range are, or how to tank them... I suppose I really should get some help on this one, but I'm pretty sure most of my friends would just die immediately... I also have just under 2M sp, so that there just may be my problem... Anyways, any advice would be appreciated, 'cause I'm too damn dumb to give up.
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Cavy Dan
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Posted - 2006.02.05 22:28:00 -
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Advice on the third stage is as follows (and the posts above)
Take out the sentries, while you first approach and then alignt to some spot in space. If you're able, take out every sentry or just 3 or 2 or even 1. Every destroyed sentry is good. They do EM/Thermal if you wish to tank them.
With the sentries gone, you should survive longer. Save The 2.5 mil BS for last. Kill every other ship first. Then concentrate on the BS. I find it good to get closer, to increase your DPS, so I kitted an AB to get closer together with a lot of BCS. He went down eventually.
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Admiral Pieg
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Posted - 2006.02.06 05:19:00 -
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personally, i took out everything beside the boss and the sentry first. My tank was a large accom and a medium t2 repper that i could run forever. I basically aligned for warp and started sniping the frigs, only one of them made it to my ship which my drones took care of.
After the frigs i killed the cruisers and the 600k battleship. I then made a u-turn and turned towards the sentrys to get in range. Once they were dead i could concentrate on the last boss.
Now up to this point i didnt have to warp out a single time, this is where the problems started. The boss is a freakin pain in the arse. His tank is nigh unbreakable and youll need at least a couple of damage mods to get through it. The main problem for me was getting into optimal for my t2 425's with antimatter to hit him at their best ability since my mega and his raven had the exact same speeds (145m/s) and he turns away at 50-51km. It took me a total of 3-4 hours of testing various setups on him to FINALLY break his freakin tank. His damage is quite pathetic though since he only deals out kinetic. A single medium t2 repper took care of his damage for me.
Anyway, if you have problems with the previous parts, chances are you will have enormous difficulties getting through his tank.
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2006.02.06 07:56:00 -
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Serp vengenace.
Use the first gate from about 2 km under it.
should only agrro 1 group.
TAnked it in apoc + pulsies.
2nd stage, ditto
3rd stage clear first group, come back in long range setup.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.02.06 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: FZappa
thats one nice setup hanns , how the hell did u get
to 12k armor hp with just one tungsten plates
He has a full set of slave implants and another for an extra 8% armour.
@ the OP. The vengeange is a bit fudged, sometimes the whole lot aggro you on warp in. It's happened to me a few times.
Check the link on my sig if you want to get the extra +8% Armour implant. I know hanns did :)
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