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l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 18:54:00 -
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As a fan site owner I got goodies worth of about ~1B and felt honored. I sold the items and gave my corp mates some free ships, which leads to more PvP ingame.
It does not matter if it's a Video, a blogpost or a whole Tournament. Some people put so many hours into fan projects and they deserved at least something. It does not matter if it's ISK or just a thank you.
Bloggers already get their media account, how about something for those awesome video makers from /my eve/? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:09:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:also, generally, the people in the poker tournament put some extra effort in (you know, turning up to the poker tournament, and winning it) vs somer doing nothing that isn't day-to-day business for them.
You make it sound like as if creating and maintaining a well know eve online fansite + infrastructure and handling with employees is effortless. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:29:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote: I haven't heard of SOMER helping anyone in game. I don't gamble with them so maybe I'm in the dark here but the only service I see that they provide is taking peoples ISK through gambling and the only reason they got a reward from CCP is that they help sell plexes.
They give away ISK and goodies for community events or related stuff.
Like videos, podcast, tournament and so on.
I don't know any details though. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:36:00 -
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Livonia Velorea wrote:Out of game only or vanity trash like:
- A piece of Steve - Band of Brothers Director Access Key - Lost reminder to pay sov bill
What is the differents between those items and a IWS? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:41:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote: - It was given to a for-profit enterprise. SB is a for-profit website. They make plenty of ISK doing their normal operations.
The "Bring Solo Back" podcast got ISK and ships for doing PvP and talking about it. They made profit.
It's hard to draw a line with those community projects. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:45:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote: 4. A Dev endorsed a player run lottery and specified that it was totally legitimate. CCP endorsements of player run businesses must never be allowed to happen. Ever. By endorsing one group over another, he has potentially crippled all of the competitors. Who would risk their ISK with anyone else?
Do you also think that giving Red Vs. Blue advertisement was wrong?
Competitors like E-Uni will have harder time. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 19:51:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:l0rd carlos wrote:Chris Winter wrote: - It was given to a for-profit enterprise. SB is a for-profit website. They make plenty of ISK doing their normal operations.
The "Bring Solo Back" podcast got ISK and ships for doing PvP and talking about it. They made profit. It's hard to draw a line with those community projects. I'll draw some lines for you:Don't give out anything that can undock unless it's a part of a CCP organized event. Don't take actions that directly increase the profits of an existing enterprise (e.g. don't tie item giveaways to Blink usage). Giving out plexes to media people is ok. Not that hard really. I was talking about the line between for profit and non profit player events/communities/websites/whatever.
If you say items you can't undock, do you also mean not tradable? Or why does the undocking part matter? And 1B ISK ship has the same value as a 1B monocle, no? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:00:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote: Except that the podcast is presumably written for entertainment purposes, to the benefit of everyone who wants to read it. Anybody, even those who don't play EVE, can go listen to the podcast for free. In that way, they're providing a community service for free.
If they had received ISK and ships for just doing PVP without the podcast...that's more like what's happening there. SB is being rewarded for running a business in game.
How long until CCP rewards the ISK doublers? Because that's basically the same thing.
Gambling is also for entertainment :D If not that then for what? The podcast had advertisment (for SOMER Blink, hehe), that means the listeners were the product. If you want to take part in a Tournament you also need to have an active account.
Do ISK doublers (the scammers) give out billions of ISK for ingame events? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:04:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: If people want to put monocles on their furries, I don't give a crap. If people want special unique ships in a spaceships sandbox, I give a crap.
Hence the line in the sand; Don't give out anything that can undock unless it's a part of a CCP organized event. It's up to the community at large if they agree with this position.
That is what I seriously don't get.
The ship is not better in any other way, it's just like a golden monocle thats locked in a station somewhere. It does not give you any ingame benefit, even if they decide to undock it, no? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:42:00 -
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Gougeres wrote: Well, I would disagree with some of what you have said, since it's the players that donate ISK to Somer that result in the sponsoring of events you noted, but I appreciate your reply.
They did not donate the ISK to somer, they paid for a service. In this case: entertainment.
If a player got rich by traiding, you would not say that people donated money to him. They paid him for a service, buying and selling goods. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:57:00 -
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Gougeres wrote:Edit - Removed my post. Edit: he removed his post while I was answering. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:03:00 -
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Please never stop the Community Spotlights!
Many people are not that active in the forum and just read the dev blogs. With out those spotlights they would miss many community events and organisation that make eve a better place! German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:54:00 -
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Laughing Mime wrote:I've decided not to resubscribe my two accounts. When do they run out?
Laughing Mime wrote: CCP still don't see what is wrong with financially supporting a for-profit gambling site.A casino is not a community service.
But where do you draw the line? If someone makes ISK by being a 3rd party on Super Traiding and sponsors community events to get more known, is that also "bad"? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
l0rd carlos
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:05:00 -
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Laughing Mime wrote:a casino is not a community service. I see it more as a entertainment service, you pay money and get a adrenalin kick out of it.
But, yeah. I get what you mean. But they did not get the price for being a gambling site, they did because they give out money to Video Makers, Podcast, Tournaments and RL meetups.
If they did not get any advertisement in return, would that have been ok? German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
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