Kuromaku?

Yeah, something went wrong and the character selection is failing. Shutting down the server.

We are just glad there is a great test server team(s) so this kind of stuff doesn't accidently go live.

Team Pony Express and Team Prototype Rocks got together for some private time - the result was Kuromaku.

Presuming the title bar isn't someone's customized desktop thing going on:

From the one screenshot I've seen it title bar looks a little cheesy. Something I'd expect from the nineties or early two thousands. For UI 3d is pretty much out and it doesn't fit with the rest of EVE's aesthetic. I'm hoping it's just someone's desktop customization and not actually something from the EVE client.

Presuming the title bar isn't someone's customized desktop thing going on:

From the one screenshot I've seen it title bar looks a little cheesy. Something I'd expect from the nineties or early two thousands. For UI 3d is pretty much out and it doesn't fit with the rest of EVE's aesthetic. I'm hoping it's just someone's desktop customization and not actually something from the EVE client.

Yeah, something went wrong and the character selection is failing. Shutting down the server.

Team Pony Express and Team Prototype Rocks got together for some private time - the result was Kuromaku.

Literally, "Kuromaku"means "black curtain." The bureaucratic meaning refers to a person who directs the actions of others from behind.

Team Pony Express and Team Prototype Rocks got together for some private time - the result was Kuromaku.

Literally, "Kuromaku"means "black curtain." The bureaucratic meaning refers to a person who directs the actions of others from behind.

Very nice so far indeed :)
Could use so 3D to let us see the whole character (to make Walking In... Capitain's Quarter useful ! :D)
Also, the background could also be in 3D just like the old login page (maybe that's planned !)
And of course, a new login music to accompany this would be awesome !

I guess I can still be dreaming but.. yeah that's cool anyway :)

i support that!

Pls make a full body model of the character... maybe like, first you see all three chars standing , then if you klick on one it zooms in into portrait mode with all the stats... or vice versa.

i support that!

Pls make a full body model of the character... maybe like, first you see all three chars standing , then if you klick on one it zooms in into portrait mode with all the stats... or vice versa.

Please dont force showy animated stuff on us, it will be another painful blow to multiboxing.

Presuming the title bar isn't someone's customized desktop thing going onGǪ

First - add some mouse-over info on the various portions of the displayed details. ("undocked", isk symbol, etc.)
Second - add a customization section to the initial options (esc menu); IMO - general tab or a new one. or a right-click menu.

having Aura say your name, Uhm.. that will take a while to get working.
;) would require a different system, so the voice would actually change, and that would probably require five full time jobs in just replying to all the complaints from that :D

having Aura say your name, Uhm.. that will take a while to get working.
;) would require a different system, so the voice would actually change, and that would probably require five full time jobs in just replying to all the complaints from that :D

What happened to the original person who did the "Aura" voice? Can we get her back for a few days?

Any system employed to pronounce more or less strange names will fail.

Regardless of actually using a computer.

Airport announcers

Just imagine what stuff Eve players would come up with ....

That was an idea, and we have been iterating on it a lot - but the actress who performed it, doesn't work as a voice actress anymore (so I'm told), she moved to the US and some other things.
So it would have to be for a few days for sure, but to make it all fit together, it would most likely require that all the voices were re-done and not just anything new.

But yea, that could work - it's not up to me, but we will most likely discuss it again.

Any system employed to pronounce more or less strange names will fail.

Regardless of actually using a computer.

Airport announcers

Just imagine what stuff Eve players would come up with ....

Hello Devs,

Is there any way you can place a countdown timer that shows how long you have until dual character training expires? Right now there is no way to check besides writing down the date you activated dual character training on a post-it note. It's a super anoying problem that you can solve on the cool new character screen, we have been talking about this issue in the feature/ideas section here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258088&find=unread

Thank you for your time.

Hello Devs,

Is there any way you can place a countdown timer that shows how long you have until dual character training expires? Right now there is no way to check besides writing down the date you activated dual character training on a post-it note. It's a super anoying problem that you can solve on the cool new character screen, we have been talking about this issue in the feature/ideas section here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=258088&find=unread

Thank you for your time.

That too, anything out of the ordinary would sound terrible - and EVE players tend to have out of the ordinary names as well as combinations that would be impossible to mix without it sounding like two separate recordings. It could (COULD!) be done with synthesis, but again, anything out of the ordinary would sound terrible and if it didn't sound terrible, that synthesis algorithm for voicing would be worth quite a lot of money.

I want Aura to say my name reaaaaaaaally slowly.

Its ok. I was hoping for something a bit more showy and animated.

something like this
My mockup

The elements (which would all be animated) would be for your default (favorite? last used) character. And would be the following.
Current system background
Nearest celestial (planet)
Current location (station or ship)
Your avatar

Then you could have your other elements over the top (current ISK, Skills, other characters).

Kuromaku
No longer need to pause skill training for installing/removing implants
New Character Selection Screen (WIP still)

Regarding implants, how about removing implants on the fly? Without docking. It's illogical, you don't need surgery to remove them?

In response to this thread, we are looking into displaying the Dual Character Training as well.
I cannot say that it'll be there on release day for sure (I wish I could) but it's on our list of features to include.

Looks nice. But could you please display the pilots' SP as well?

The wormholers would come for you. A lot of stuff is allowed outside of stations because w-space folks don't have them. Once we actually get POSes you can dock at that will likely solve the issue.

EDIT: Bring back Aura so say something like "Entering environment Capsuleer" or even better "Welcome back Maximus". That wouldn't be too hard would it and would get us right in the mood.

I'm getting a blank screen every time I launch my test client

Edit: switching to dx9 solved the blank screen problem, but now I get the old character selection screen

Singularity is now back online with the new mirror and the new build, which includes multiple characters in training.

IMPORTANT: The EVE launcher will try to start the client with DX11, which will result in a completely black client. Go to the settings in the launcher (small cog-wheel in the top right corner), switch to the tab "DirectX" and select dx9.

Looks really nice, though I still miss the nice animations we had in the background for each expansion with a unique soundtrack :)

9/10 for the new login screen.
(10/10 if paired with a graphical background loop animation :D)

Still very refreshing, thank you for your work!

as i said - very much Work In Progress...

Seriously now.

I don't get why the new selector is such a big thing according to CCP, probably more of that awesome awesomeness you've got coming we're still waiting for.

Major problem I have is the new selector not displaying most recent news, like the old one does on the right side of the screen. If this is moving into the new launcher (I'm assuming there is a new launcher coming) then forget what I said.

Anyway, a new selector isn't a gameplay-changing event that will make people who (God forbid) want to leave stay and play another couple of years. Or make any player log off and back in 50x in a row because it's awesome. You point and click, done. It is a purely graphical change that won't be any better or worse than the current system, just different.

I wish CCP stopped wasting time with useless features and worked more on things that actually change and improve gameplay or make the universe of New Eden a more complex and/or exciting place. It sometimes feels you guys are releasing expansions because you've got to release expansions and not because you came up with something new.

You do realise that EvE Online is happening beyond the launcher and beyond the character selection screen, in the actual game itself? OK, just wanted to make sure.

Sorry if I upset you guys but you asked for our opinion and I'm giving it.

PS: Anyone playing Skyrim or GTA5 because they have an awesome title screen?

No you didn't. I've checked 3x to make sure and not finding it.

Howdy.
Our stuff is starting to get enabled on Singularity now.

Please give us feedback on the (still WIP) character selection screen.

Thanks.

I dont see anything new about the selection screen. Was it removed from the latest build?

In DX11 mode I get just a black screen. No character selection is visible on SiSi. Mouse changes cursors, but it isn't clear whether or not I'm able to actually click on anything.

In DX9 mode I get the old selection screen.

Is this expected? I filed a bug, but wasn't really sure what was or wasn't working.

(Using a GTX 560 w/ the nVidia WHQL driver released last week)

IMO there is too much red in this picture. I don't mind the background, but having the character selection itself following the same pattern makes it look TOO MUCH monochrom.

Also, is there any plan to have a 3D background or will you just put a wallpaper behind and pretend you've done an amazing work ?

We agree that the colour is currently too strong in the current version so this will be toned down before release.
Also, the UI colouring will change per expansion so it won't always be red.

As for the background, it will remain a static image to save on load times but a bunch of polish, including animations has still to be introduced.

We agree that the colour is currently too strong in the current version so this will be toned down before release.
Also, the UI colouring will change per expansion so it won't always be red.

As for the background, it will remain a static image to save on load times but a bunch of polish, including animations has still to be introduced.

bring back the click on portrait to log in like it is now.

any news regarding this:

"there is an issue ith it if you use 2 monitors, the ttons are centered, meaning the separation of the two screens land right in the middle of it.

the green line is where the switch is between my two screens: http://s21.postimg.org/sn4urdcp3/split.jpg


it would be nice if it was aligned to the UI wich you can offset already

please make this affected by this setting: http://s2.postimg.org/6l244xgt5/camera_offset.png "

because it is odd that there is so much unused space on one screen just to see a toon cut right in the middle ^^

thanks

And please remove the login button. Dubble-click does not cut it. Totaly agree here.

One click to make it active and one click to log in already are two clicks...

The new character selection screen doesn't display the length of your skill queue, quite important information, more so than the skill in training (which is nice nonetheless). To avoid redesigning, maybe put the training skill in the same box on mouseover or the skill queue length on mouseover?

having Aura say your name, Uhm.. that will take a while to get working.
;) would require a different system, so the voice would actually change, and that would probably require five full time jobs in just replying to all the complaints from that :D

That too, anything out of the ordinary would sound terrible - and EVE players tend to have out of the ordinary names as well as combinations that would be impossible to mix without it sounding like two separate recordings. It could (COULD!) be done with synthesis, but again, anything out of the ordinary would sound terrible and if it didn't sound terrible, that synthesis algorithm for voicing would be worth quite a lot of money.

We've now implemented the single click log in as well.
It'll hit Sisi soon.

Just to be clear, that's 1 click to select the character, and 1 more click on them to enter.
(Double click still functions as well)

We won't be removing the 'Enter EVE' (or as it should be: 'Enter New Eden') button though.

We're in talks about this now regarding how to display it correctly.

Would it be possible to always have your chars in the same order? As it is now, every time I try to log in, I have to look at all three characters to see which one is the one I want to use. Even though this takes just a second, it would be easier if the characters were always in the same order and I could click the right one just by memory.

Is there a particular design decision behind shuffling the characters around every time I log in? I could sort of understand the last character used being selected (as in TQ now), but I logged into Sisi now and the last character I played was at the end of the list.

Yup, we're looking into fixing that as well.

We'll be implementing the most recently used characters to the left hand side soon.

having Aura say your name, Uhm.. that will take a while to get working.
;) would require a different system, so the voice would actually change, and that would probably require five full time jobs in just replying to all the complaints from that :D

Shouldn't the placement of the characters remain consistent, regardless of who was used last? I think the character shuffle makes sense currently, because the placement is one large "on top" and two smaller bottom portraits, giving emphasis to which one was used last. However, given the "three across, all the same size" model, it would make more sense to keep the portrait where it is statically, or at a minimum give people the option to have (or not to have) the portraits shuffle around.

Hi all

If you now log onto Sisi, you might notice quite a bit of changes.
The "Enter EVE button is gone, and also is the notion of "selected character". Now you just mouse over your character, it lights up and you click it to enter the game.

The 2nd/3rd character in training, as well as the PLEX/ETC counters should now be displayed as a logo and text telling you how long there is left.
Clicking on those elements will open up the account management page.

We have shifted the screen when you have camera offset + ui offset (for dual displays).

The current background is a placeholder, and I'm looking forward to getting the real one :)

We are in polishing mode now, and will be tweaking colors, fixing overlapping issue as well as other issues, moving lines one pixel here and there.

Hi all

If you now log onto Sisi, you might notice quite a bit of changes.
The "Enter EVE button is gone, and also is the notion of "selected character". Now you just mouse over your character, it lights up and you click it to enter the game.

The 2nd/3rd character in training, as well as the PLEX/ETC counters should now be displayed as a logo and text telling you how long there is left.
Clicking on those elements will open up the account management page.

We have shifted the screen when you have camera offset + ui offset (for dual displays).

The current background is a placeholder, and I'm looking forward to getting the real one :)

We are in polishing mode now, and will be tweaking colors, fixing overlapping issue as well as other issues, moving lines one pixel here and there.

One of the main goals of this screen was that it had to load fast, and as cool as it would have been to have 3D characters in it, that would never have met that goal without some serious work being put into optimizing the character loading, which at this point we were not ready to do.

I agree that the skillqueue still needs changing.

The corp and alliance name shows on mouse-over (arguably with too much delay).

I find the faction to be a useless info in the scope of what the login screen does... and how irrelevant it is for game-(non-role-) play in EVE, then again if you roleplay, you know your stuff by heart.
Sec status is only in the category of nice to know. But since it is no pertinent information on deciding which character to login with, I would actually argue that it should not be there (also it does not change while you are offline).
News fall into the same category and should be reserved for the launcher. I actually like news to be out-of-client content, while world news should be presented entirely different out of the scope of CCP karkur's team for now.


A request for CCP karkur:

Can you please release a screenshot with every single item of the login screen shown, some are case sensitive so I cannot see all of them. Would be nice to get a good overview of how stuff is implemented.
Or better yet emulate it on SiSi as if every item was relevant to us (e.g. give us a Tritanium to redeem and so on).

There is a problem with corp logo if it has transparent "colour" in it. While greyed out it isn't showing. I'll try to explain it a little better

First layer (top layer) is a transparent symbol.
Second layer is a white disc.

While greyed out, the first layer symbol disappears.

I can't make a screenshot, because it takes one of my desktop and not from the game

You mean your corp logo?

Is the background art temporary? I find it rather bland.

The current background is a placeholder, and I'm looking forward to getting the real one :)

Come on! At least read the dev posts before posting. Just a few posts back no less...

One of the main goals of this screen was that it had to load fast, and as cool as it would have been to have 3D characters in it, that would never have met that goal without some serious work being put into optimizing the character loading, which at this point we were not ready to do.

No it's not my corp. The cross in my logo is blue. I changed it to transparent on SiSi but it takes time to refresh in the Character Selection.

EDIT:
It refreshed. Here is a screenshot.

Is this on Sisi now?
We just created a new effect for those pictures in the character selection screen, so maybe it need to be tweaked a little bit (the new effect is new on Sisi as of last update).

and it will have sound too :D

all brand new, but one thing is old and I'm sure you all missed her voice while logging in. (for those who play with sound of course, the rest of you can just pffft off - or at least turn it on once and just .. ah . . bah! who am I fooling. )

I just saw that my main character was moved to the middle of the slots... did you change it so it stays there or do the characters shuffle?

The change position. Last used is first/let. Second last middle.

Just adding my voice to the "Characters should be in a fixed location" argument. This would make it much easier to login quickly with muscle memory instead of them constantly changing.

Agree. For sorting I would suggest the birth date.
So left side the oldest, right side the youngest character.

Redeem Items:
Please display the location of the item - if they are locked to it.
Like a Plex which have been reverse redeemed.

How about a better representation of shipsize? I made a litte mockup to show one way to improve it. Sorry for bad paint skills EDIT: Here is another one.

This bug is still there

Background needs to be animated, srly

We're adding in new animations to the general UI so that should bring in a bit more movement overall.
However, when it comes to making the actual background animated, this is something we are looking into for a point release.

Getting a bad flicker type look when a character is selected today might need to be rethought. This is with all high settings.

Yup, it just needs a tad more polish!

We're working on this now.
Thanks for the heads up. (now and earlier in the thread)

It's fixed \o/ Thank you

Thank you for pointing it out

I'm guessing the login screen is finalized now? It looks, sounds, and animates fantastically.

IMHO there are still a few minor issues with the Character Selection Screen : It has way too many red/orange colors, the ship's displays are confusing about the size of said ships, and some color transitionning are too pronounced, e.g : from white to dark orange.

But I must admit that the selection screen is now both fast and pretty, you've made me forget my regrets about not seizing the opportunity to make a full 3D avatar render. (This choice was made for the sake of optimization so that's okay :) )

Edit : Also, opening the redeem menu makes the background move, not sure if intended, and quite unusual.

We have a system in place so that the UI will adapt to the colour scheme of the current release, this one being red and orange.
The size issue with the ships is something we are aware of and may be tweaked soon as are the other issues.
It's by design that the background moves when you open the Redeem window.

As mentioned though, work will continue here and there on it as CCP Karkur is very attached to her work and only wants the best for you.