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GigaIndy	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:11:00 - [61] Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus Im gunna have to sign off on this. Either get rid of the sentry guns, or up their damage so that they insta kill anything that agro's them. The way they are now is just silly. Sentry gun damage is just fine, there range could use some tweaking. Ethier way If you cant live in .1-.4 dont go there. Pretty simple.
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:13:00 - [62] this is the worst thread i've ever read. if you don't want to risk getting shot, don't go places where people can shoot you. that's it. no secret. just don't go if you can't handle it. can i have your stuff once you leave? In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
Lythius Arcturnus	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:23:00 - [63] Originally by: GigaIndy Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus Im gunna have to sign off on this. Either get rid of the sentry guns, or up their damage so that they insta kill anything that agro's them. The way they are now is just silly. Sentry gun damage is just fine, there range could use some tweaking. Ethier way If you cant live in .1-.4 dont go there. Pretty simple. But the real fact of the matter is that the GREAT MAJORITY of all space in Eve is lowsec, and I would guess a LARGE PERCENTAGE of the playerbase doesn't like being in low sec. I fully understand that everyone who loves PvP and pirating wants everyone to go scrambling off to low sec to become potential targets, but its just not gunna happen. So seeing as how these people will either stay in high sec, or quit the game if you force them into low sec, then whats the point in not placating them a bit and giving them a bit more space to operate in, and allowing them safe passage to more of Eve? The answer is that there is no reason not give a bit more advantage to the carebears. I can only surmise that the point of sentry guns was to protect gates. I mean come on, who's gunna argue against that point? Its like looking at something round and calling it a cirlce, its just too obvious to deny. So if they don't have the capability to protect the gates, then either get rid of them, or make them so they can do what they were put there for in the first place. This is a 2+2=4 kinda problem here.
Lythius Arcturnus	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:27:00 - [64] I officically retract everything I said except for either making sentry's more powerful or removing them. After looking up the OP of this thread, I have learned that he has been in Eve since October of 2003, and in his bio claims to be an Anti-Pirate and has a sec rating of -0.3. This kind of post should not be coming from someone with those kind of stats. It would have been perfectly valid coming from someone 2 or 3 months old though.
Winded Destruction	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:31:00 - [65] Originally by: Neon Genesis You are inable think your way around issues. Please, if your going to comment about someones intelligence, make sure you dont sound like a 2nd grader while your doing it. And I think that he has a point, its annoying, but its part of the game. Kind've like expecting to play paintball and not get hurt..... I hope noone quits over this issue.
Trepkos	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:34:00 - [66] Originally by: adhoc Originally by: Raem Civrie I'd like to relay my feelings towards your predicament. And this is pretty much it. That link is sick. I'm new to this game but pictures of abused or injured children subtitled with "Owned" is over the line by a long way. How do you report posts round here? Abused children are meant to be subjects of uncontrollable laughter. With every 'I quit' post, a smile develops on my face, because I realize that the community's average IQ just increased by 10%. -------- Recruitment
Ardent Rellik	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus Originally by: GigaIndy Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus Im gunna have to sign off on this. Either get rid of the sentry guns, or up their damage so that they insta kill anything that agro's them. The way they are now is just silly. Sentry gun damage is just fine, there range could use some tweaking. Ethier way If you cant live in .1-.4 dont go there. Pretty simple. But the real fact of the matter is that the GREAT MAJORITY of all space in Eve is lowsec, and I would guess a LARGE PERCENTAGE of the playerbase doesn't like being in low sec. I fully understand that everyone who loves PvP and pirating wants everyone to go scrambling off to low sec to become potential targets, but its just not gunna happen. So seeing as how these people will either stay in high sec, or quit the game if you force them into low sec, then whats the point in not placating them a bit and giving them a bit more space to operate in, and allowing them safe passage to more of Eve? The answer is that there is no reason not give a bit more advantage to the carebears. I can only surmise that the point of sentry guns was to protect gates. I mean come on, who's gunna argue against that point? Its like looking at something round and calling it a cirlce, its just too obvious to deny. So if they don't have the capability to protect the gates, then either get rid of them, or make them so they can do what they were put there for in the first place. This is a 2+2=4 kinda problem here. You do realise that Sentries have ALREADY Been made uber right.... They have been biffed up specifically to counter the problems you are describing. It is due to fact that, admitedly, most people are LAZY to invest time in bookmarks, into proper ship setups and so fortht hat they die to snipers. OMFG I chose to fit 5 Local Haulls on to my indy and some bastard pirate killed me cause I was too slow coming to the gate - EXPLOIT, the Pirates are BAD..... /me cries. WTF, Learn game mechanics, get better skills, be fraggin smart about traveling in lower security areas. Know where you are going! It all stems from the fact that most people, again LAZY, and do not wish to actually play and adapt to the game. Many want a personal "pawnmobille" and be able to kill all - w/o actually spending effort and time on it. Another half are the ones who are jealous of those in low security and wish to partake in its advantage - YET they are not prpared to take any losess in the process - Whatever - the OP is a Looser, and you my dear lady have no clue as to what you are talking about when it comes to EVE mechanics and the sentry guns. All I have to finish with is this, I saw a bumper sticker once: "Stupidity Should Be Painful" what a perfect way to describe the OP and your post Lythius.
Deacan Wildfire	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:36:00 - [68] Edited by: Deacan Wildfire on 27/01/2006 04:36:46 Originally by: EternalDragon I go to 0.0 space and try to npc and I get kiled by pirates, 3 times in a row 3 seperate days. I give up on 0.0 space and try my agent mission. I try to get to alachene where my agent is and its 28+ jumps through "safe" space" This new highway system ccp devs make is a bunch of garbage. If I want to go under 15 jumps to get to the agent I must go through over 4 unsafe systems of .3 - .4 Sentries are noe able to be tanked by almost any bs with ease while pirate snipe us. I with my last bit of isk got a caracal and tried to get to my agent. The first .4 system I was sniped and killed. My pod was insta popped also. It seems every single 0.0 - .4 system has pirates in in at the moment, More thna there ever was. this is getting out of hand for people that need to travel but cant afford to pvp. If they dont increase sentry gun tougness or make it easier to travel without having to go through shtholes of pirates you will be having much les paying customers. Please read this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=257412 - DW plaguing MMORPGs since 1997
F'nog	Posted - 2006.01.27 04:56:00 - [69] I think the original ED sold his account and this is some noob who has no idea what he's doing. It seems pretty obvious he's in over his head, so we should probably help him if he asks for it. Though many have already offered good advice, so I suggest that the OP follows it. He should also learn a little about how Eve works before coming here and whining. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Desiderious	Posted - 2006.01.27 06:38:00 - [70] Here is what you have to do. If you see an agent you like thats great. However if he is in a dangerous area, ask yourself if its worth it. Ask yourself if you can wait a few more missions until the next agent opens up who may be in a high security area. That is what you have to do, train some social skills, etc. But CCP does this so the poeple who want to take that chance in getting to the agent are able to and possibly get the agent sooner then if you stayed in high sec space. All about risk vs reward. And you gotta know when to cut your losses, and try to very your rout to the guy. If you go to the same system and you keep getting blown up....well your just asking for more pirates to be attracted. If you want to force your way through try getting your warp stabilization and speed up fairly high and you can probably get through most gate campers.
Frezik	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:08:00 - [71] Originally by: EternalDragon The point is its not fair to the people that dont want to pvp and need isk to have to go around the whole freakon map to get somewhere out of almost a definate possibility of getting sniped by a sentry tanking pirate. PvP is intrinsic to Eve. If you don't like that, then Eve is not the game for you. ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth
GrumpyCoyote	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:43:00 - [72] Now that's funny. He flys into PVP space, and then claims to not want to PVP. Stay in empire. Done. No more getting blown up. How is this a problem?
Tony Fats	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:46:00 - [73] Um. Your character is 2 years old. You used to be a pirate. You're complaining about being ganked. What's wrong with this picture? I've been in the game for about 8 months, spent 3 of those months flying around lowsec in a hauler NPC trading, I have lost 1 ship and no pods in 8 months. And weren't you here last month saying that you were quitting the game? Just un-install, this game is not for you.
Tony Fats	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:50:00 - [74] PS - I agree that carebears are whiney morons. For all intents and purposes, pvp is optional. Don't want to fight? Warp away. If you get caught one in a million times so what? Its the price of doing business.
Berrik Radhok	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:55:00 - [75] Waaah waaah waaah. Equip stabs, buy instas. Problem solved.
Erilias Ilthis	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:56:00 - [76] I've had it with these kinda types... I'm freaking on my chair right now reading the OP. Look, Dragon, it's really easy. CCP made a game with room for all. There's highsec for the ****ypants AND (respectfully meant) the more laid back or occasional players and lowsec for the hardcore players and pvp types. This distinction is to be made as from an IQ of about 6. core question: Why do you keep venturing in lowsec, you know the risk.. It's like building a house on the landing track of an airport and afterwards complaining that there's noise from airplanes.
Sleazy Cabby	Posted - 2006.01.27 07:58:00 - [77] Originally by: adhoc Originally by: Katura Edited by: Katura on 27/01/2006 00:46:08 Originally by: adhoc Originally by: Raem Civrie I'd like to relay my feelings towards your predicament. And this is pretty much it. That link is sick. I'm new to this game but pictures of abused or injured children subtitled with "Owned" is over the line by a long way. How do you report posts round here? Not over my line, I'm sure he had it coming. go away. What? Who are you? Some sort of Eve god everyone looks up to? Why should I go away? That kid looks beaten up to me and has some kind of head operation. I'm quite used to forums, this one is quite tame in general, that one picture is over the line. buhu stfu the doors that way --------->
Sleazy Cabby	Posted - 2006.01.27 08:06:00 - [78] Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus But the real fact of the matter is that the GREAT MAJORITY of all space in Eve is lowsec, and I would guess a LARGE PERCENTAGE of the playerbase doesn't like being in low sec. Then the large percentage of the playerbase should go play a non-pvp game. Even in high sec your corp can be wardecced, whats the difference between that and flying through lowsec? EVE IS A PVP GAME
Random Thug	Posted - 2006.01.27 08:09:00 - [79] Originally by: F'nog I think the original ED sold his account and this is some noob who has no idea what he's doing. It seems pretty obvious he's in over his head, so we should probably help him if he asks for it. Though many have already offered good advice, so I suggest that the OP follows it. He should also learn a little about how Eve works before coming here and whining. No I get the feeling it is the same moron who quit the game. I saw him on "Help" channel earlier begging for money from 3 week newbs. I pointed out he was a 2.5 year vet, and he started abusing people in chat.
Ultim8Evil	Posted - 2006.01.27 08:36:00 - [80] NEWS JUST IN....NEWS JUST IN....NEWS JUST IN...NEWS JUST IN... The sky is falling! Can I have your stuff? Kthxbye
LoveSlave Dave	Posted - 2006.01.27 08:47:00 - [81] Originally by: adhoc Originally by: Katura Edited by: Katura on 27/01/2006 00:46:08 Originally by: adhoc Originally by: Raem Civrie I'd like to relay my feelings towards your predicament. And this is pretty much it. That link is sick. I'm new to this game but pictures of abused or injured children subtitled with "Owned" is over the line by a long way. How do you report posts round here? Not over my line, I'm sure he had it coming. go away. What? Who are you? Some sort of Eve god everyone looks up to? Why should I go away? That kid looks beaten up to me and has some kind of head operation. I'm quite used to forums, this one is quite tame in general, that one picture is over the line. He deserved it look at the miserable little **** he probably started ***ing "I want sweets, I want food, I havent had a drink for 3 days, I need my insulin.... blah blah blah" a right hook to the mooey never hurt anyone. ------------------ Daddy does it to me cos he loves me
Oro Masut	Posted - 2006.01.27 09:20:00 - [82] First of all, i am pretty new to Eve playing it for about 2 weeks. I am coming from a long-time EQ1 (about 5 years) and bumps into DAoC, WoW( still made 60 there, nothing to brag about),Guild Wars and so on. Basically i have tried every semi-major MMORPG out there. Reading the post of the OP, i was reminded of my feelings,when i was podded (first and only time so far). I was flying with my pimped Tristan into low-sec on auto, and partially afk. Not a smart move. My first feeling about this was like : "WTF,i am a n00b, why can this happen to me. Why am i not protected against this ** by the game-system" I read alot in the forums and in some of the guides here, before i started to play. Obviously this wasn't enough. If you play Eve and want to keep playing it with some progression, you have to understand the mechanics and the universe. After my aforementioned incident and while jumping 20 systems to buy my next ship,i took a nice long dump and a bath. Thus thinking about why this game appeals to me. And it was exactly what happened to me, which made me love this game : Risk vs. reward ! Most games try to make their players believe, that their system works likes that. Well, in some small scale that may be true. Eve on the other hand takes this ideal to the point where it is actually named aptly. You call this game unfair ? Show me another game, where you can improve you char, just by logging in to start a new skill and basically be on par with someone who paly 24/7....you are still thinking ? Give it up, there is none. Eve is very fair, even if you are broke due to being podded, you can make decent isk in a short amount of time and still have fun. Eve in itself is the world, alot of MMORPG want to have, but never get there. Death here has consequences, better you learn that now, while your bought account is new and before you join a corp, than later on. Don't get me wrong, i don't hold any grudge against ebayers, as long as they f** know the game and the class/skills they playing. Understand that this game is deep and dynamic, deeper than any other game out there. A 0.4 system that was safe for 2 weeks might today be camped by someone who blows you up, just for the fun of it. Why ? Because he can.... No, ia m not a pirate, nor do i plan to become one. On the other hand i am not limiting myself by saying i will never pirate. Every "mechanic" in Eve has its countermechanism. You want the short route ? Fine, equip 4 stabs set your bookmarks and off you go. You want it safe...plan your route manually, hell there even is an option on the map that lets the autogenerator avoid lowsec system. How much more comfort do you need ? Furthermore make your homework, read alot in the forums and about how this game and their people "tic" This game isn't for smacktalking little s who insult everyone, because here sooner or later you will face the consequences and you cannot switch the server. You live with your reputation. So, why am i posting all this ? To show you, that i understand how you feel and how frustrating this game can be and to tell you to either learn to love this game or go f**** back to WoW no fancy sig
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.01.27 09:42:00 - [83] Originally by: Astasia Orian Lol another eternaldragon thread. That kinda sums it up lol ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.01.27 09:54:00 - [84] Originally by: Wrayeth If you want 0.0 access, wouldn't it just be better to apply to join an existing 0.0 corp? That's one of the inherent problems with Eve, at the moment. The Eve Guild Wars Project!
Biggess Boobess	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:19:00 - [85] Pretty sure Eternal Dragon mainly flies a freighter
Sendraks	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:22:00 - [86] Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus It would have been perfectly valid coming from someone 2 or 3 months old though. No it wouldn't. You see, this is what sets Eve apart from other MMORPGS. There isn't any great effort made to shelter new players and protect them from the big nasty world out there. Sure there is empire space and all its lovely safeness, but its the work of a few moments to sail off the beaten track into low sec. But the game warns you when this happens. Either you're prepared to deal with the danger or you're an idiot who ignores the blatant warnings given. I'd only been playing a month before my first missions took me into low sec. I knew it was potentially dangerous, knew I could lose my ship and/or get podded, so I took every precaution I could. I flew a cheaper faster ship, fitted stabs, made instas, watched local and generally treated every second in low sec as if I was waiting to die. Thats from me, a relatively new player, one month into the game. The first experience of low sec was a hell of a lot of fun for me. Partly because of the tension and partly because I knew that if I wanted to get out of there alive I had to plan and at the same time place minimal ISK at risk. I've little sympathy, in fact I have none at all, for a player 2 to 3 months into playing Eve who bumbles into low sec and gets killed. The game provides all the information and options the player needs to avoid that kind of incident and if someone is just too stupid to take precautions on their own head be it.
TauTut	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:30:00 - [87] ED does make a good point here (regardless of the irrelevant points abuot him coming and going etc) ... there is a hell of a lot of sniper packs gate ganking in 0.1 - 0.4 these days. It's either up to the players to deal with it - or for CCP to nerf the crap out of the game I guess. The only idea I have for this is that 0.1 - 0.4 systems have roaming Concord patrols that move between systems - so at least these happy campers get harrassed from time to time. At the moment it's all too easy for them. -TT
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:35:00 - [88] Originally by: TauTut ED does make a good point here (regardless of the irrelevant points abuot him coming and going etc) ... there is a hell of a lot of sniper packs gate ganking in 0.1 - 0.4 these days. It's either up to the players to deal with it - or for CCP to nerf the crap out of the game I guess. The only idea I have for this is that 0.1 - 0.4 systems have roaming Concord patrols that move between systems - so at least these happy campers get harrassed from time to time. At the moment it's all too easy for them. How about players harras them themselfs? ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Sendraks	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:42:00 - [89] Originally by: TauTut At the moment it's all too easy for them. It doesn't take much effort at all to do you research and learn which systems are likely to have gate camps, at what times the gate camps commonly occur and at which gates. Once you have that information you fly accordingly. The level of information available to the player, plus items, makes it quite hard for pirates imo.
Sable Schroedinger	Posted - 2006.01.27 10:52:00 - [90] I got killed. CCP gave me a way to avoid it, I didn't use it, so its CCP's fault!!! (think there may be some need to look into sentry guns though, if they reall are that easy to tank...)

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