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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
605
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:25:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote:Tbh if you want this kind of thing I suggest you do this in another game... I don't think it's good for CCP to invest time in WIS atm for this spaceship game. And here is the minority speaking again.
The positive feedback from this change would be MASSIVE. EVE would be all over every gaming news venue, and it would be the go-to sci-fi game. If you've seen some of the Incarna previews, WiS was well underway, at least half-way done - Station interiors, bars, minigames, you name it - the models were done, the engine was done, and then people with toasters for computers started crying and we never got what was promised.
I doubt CCP deleted all of their precious work with WiS. It has so much potential - it's time to release something with it! |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2884
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:42:00 -
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Still want a planning room and interactive map to plan fleet movements, analyze combat statistics, etc. Like in that one teaser where the guy was looking at the map and the capsuleer sov was moving closer to high. Like that but more functional, and shared in-game with as many people that are in the board room.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
2884
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:47:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I really want to start a fight in a bar... ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE.
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Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:47:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:And here is the minority speaking again. We know that you're part of the minority, you don't need to point it out.
And i understand that you've meant it the other way round, but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
That said, if you people really were the majority, then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
... but you're not.
It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on and who CCP cares about, but yet, because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.
Thanks for paying, btw ! |

Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:49:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I really want to start a fight in a bar... ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE. CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.
Imagine this happening ... the carebears and low self esteem escapists would ragequit en masse. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1624
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:51:00 -
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it's impossible to make them understand that, they've spent so much energy deluding themselves into thinking the opposite and that wis is eve's only future |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1624
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:51:00 -
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btw solstice project is sooo much cooler than his alt, just saying, his alt makes him look bad by association |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2167
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:30:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Nyancat Audeles wrote:And here is the minority speaking again. We know that you're part of the minority, you don't need to point it out.
Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this and counting the fors and against.
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.
Read the Avatar exploration prototype thread. CCP really did intend there to be PvP. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:50:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this nice data sourcing. you've discovered that wis threads have a certain proportion of people interested in wis. this does not indicate what eve players are interested in, though. |

Flamespar
Woof Club
834
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:07:00 -
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Threads about wanting avatar gameplay have been a constant feature on these forums.
People want avatar gameplay.
Deal with it. Preferably without bursting into tears. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:18:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:People want avatar gameplay. all ten of them, lawl |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
607
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:31:00 -
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The funny thing is... neither Solstice nor her alts posting in this thread described what the f*ck was the problem they have with WiS. They say "developer resources" but it's already been pointed out that the vast majority of work for WiS has been already finished; so they have no option but to troll.
Also, it was the vocal minority who stopped development with WiS. It still is the vocal minority that is against it - nearly everyone I have talked to, and I'd argue that the vast majority of people playing EVE would absolutely love a rich, out-of-spaceship experience in stations. It would add a whole new dimension of gameplay. I don't see what is so hard for them to understand about this. |

Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
239
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:32:00 -
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visitante inferno wrote:they should have a built in hotel where players can opt in to make new clones rofl
Well, it would take 9 months for the new clone to be ready, and 18 to be ready to be a capsuleer, but sure. I support this feature and/or service. :D |

Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
607
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:41:00 -
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Solstice Project's Alt wrote: We know that you're part of the minority, you don't need to point it out.
Oh really? What makes you say this?
Solstice Project's Alt wrote: And i understand that you've meant it the other way round, but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
Really, great argument you have there! "You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!"
Solstice Project's Alt wrote: That said, if you people really were the majority, then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...
Solstice Project's Alt wrote: It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on and who CCP cares about
I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself.
Solstice Project's Alt wrote: because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.
Bravo! Again, nice argument you have there! "You want walking in stations, so that makes you [insert undesirable qualities here] !" |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
221
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:49:00 -
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Nyancat, I don't think a teaser really counts as evidence that WiS was significantly advanced. it could be mocked up, companies do this all the time. freelance space bum |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:55:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote: We know that you're part of the minority, you don't need to point it out.
Oh really? What makes you say this? Solstice Project's Alt wrote: And i understand that you've meant it the other way round, but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
Really, great argument you have there! "You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!" you, uh, don't see any similarities between solstice's 'argument' and your own?
Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote: It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on and who CCP cares about
I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself. he's talking about every expansion and csm meeting from crucible to rubicon and also the fact that noone is working on wis |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
986
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Posted - 2013.10.15 23:19:00 -
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Priceless. The Tears Must Flow |

Barkaial Starfinder
Eixo do Mal
68
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:32:00 -
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Some people seem to not know why Incarna was shunned.
It was not because a part of the player base didn't care about WiS. Everything you develop in a game will bother some people, no matter what, and this has happened in every EVE expansion.
There are several reasons why Incarna was so different, including the fact that many aspects of FiS were broken and left to rot. When people saw that all we got was a single player room, almost everyone that liked or disliked WiS got upset.
It they did Incarna as it should be back then, even Wis haters would settle down. |

Anomaly One
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:42:00 -
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Quote: Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...
That looks awesome to have.. **** they should implement it right now even if no one else could enter just add the features later. |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
422
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Posted - 2013.10.16 04:24:00 -
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Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote: That said, if you people really were the majority, then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait... That's just a small teaser.
I seriously doubt, that CCP has a 40 km long station ready for launch. Let alone dozens of different ones for all races and variants.
On the other side, I'm all for putting agents into a room behind the next corridor and allow Dust mercs to shoot capsuleers while they hand in their missions .
Remove insurance. |
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
523
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:14:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote: Why don't they just add a video screen to the CQ where players can play Somer Blink all day? Might as well just integrate that 100% fully trusted third party right into the game.
Seriously, WIS player owned casino's would be cool |

Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2169
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:04:00 -
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ThreadS. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you.
All three of you stupid cunts.
That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |

Anomaly One
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:36:00 -
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Kinda funny that goons are in the majority of posters in that thread, inb4 "well they are a big alliance you don't expect them to post stfu" **** |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
529
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Posted - 2013.10.16 09:43:00 -
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I Was There wrote:They should make it possible to open the door. When you open it, a cutscene will appear and you see yourself walk around a few seconds, before you're mugged by brutor slave children.
Amarr education Video on why Minmatars need to be enslaved to ensure the safety of the devout and law abiding citizen? Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
986
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:29:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Thread S. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you. All three of you stupid cunts. That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.
You seem mad, you can always go to second life and make your avatar bang is head into a wall. The Tears Must Flow |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4040
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:20:00 -
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Hilarious.
Posting from my phone, so quoting is a pain and i'll just respond this way.
"her alts" = "his alt". One. The obvious one. I'm sure you can guess which one. Made during the ToS ****, not even playing with it.
Benny got it right. Reality is that CCP doesn't work on anything WiS related, except probably the exploration part, which is not "in Station", btw. CCCP said that they didn't plan combat elements for WiS, which i have pointed out. Obviously the exploratio part, which is IN SPACE will have combat elements.
And again... it wasn't a vocal minority! CCP lost tons of money by losing a few thousand accounts, which they lost because of the sum of **** they have managed to pile up in such a short amount of time, that it collapsed right onto them! Get your historic facts straight!
The issue wasn't just the failure Incarna was, but the sum of everything that happened! Now the avatar crowd comes in short, because people were demanding that CCP concentrates on FiS! On fixing the bugs! On creating stuff for FiS! People feared CCP will keep concentrating on WiS and completely neglect those people who are playing spaceships! This too was a part of the reasons why the tower of **** collapsed!
Realitycheck: CCP is working on FiS. Do you see a ragethread filled with hundreds of people quitting because CCP neglects WiS? No! Did we see a ragethread with hundreds quitting because they neglected FiS? Yes!
Also. No matter how many people you talk to, there is this little thing called bias. You might actually just seek those who are pro WiS, which means that you, of course, will find lots of people supporting it! Doesn't matter anyway, though!
You can say whatever you want, but reality is not going to change, unless you make it change! Unless you collectively vote with your wallets, like people did back then, you have no ground whatsoever!
CCP cares about it's customers and obviously the customers want FiS! That's current reality! No matter how many words and assumptions you put into it, they don't change reality! Proof: No ragequitting thread about lack of WiS.
Try RealitChecks more often. They help people to stop mixing wishfull thinking with what's going on. |

Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4040
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:25:00 -
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But wait, there's even more reality that people are willfully ignoring!
For example the fact that CCP does not prioritize the potential millions (lol) of potential customers the could eventually gather by makjng more WiS content!
You think they don't know the POSSIBILITY of gaining more customers? RealityCheck! If they cared, they'd create more WiS content! Do they do that? No! |

Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1701
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:02:00 -
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TBH, I'm not anti-WiS .. I'd be pleasantly surprised with "oh, and guys, so we know we haven't done a lot with WiS that you've known about ... but uh, we were kinda working on it the whole time since Incarna, and we're unlocking the door now ... and we also put cookies in the office" getting added to an expansion -- that is, not the main focus, but just "something else" that they throw in.
No hype, no warning... just maybe it being on SISI, and then patch notes saying it's on TQ.
Anything more (i.e. hype or making WiS the focus of an expansion) will probably do more harm than good at least in the near future. One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
222
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:09:00 -
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yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.
'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda. freelance space bum |

Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:51:00 -
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Skeln Thargensen wrote:yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.
'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda.
Goddamn ... this is the most I've referred back to the same post/links ever... The WiS Hype vs. The WiS Reality
THIS is why people got upset about WiS specifically (Incarna was bad all around for many other reasons). One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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