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John Tomplin
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:25:00 -
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We have been teased by that door in our quarters long enough. The station decontamination process is lengthy, I'm sure, but it would be nice to put those nicely rendered player models to good use. Would you chat with the guy you just killed? a corp member? could your corp use a real lounge and a teamspeak channel? the sky is the limit. even beyond. |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
87
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:30:00 -
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You seem to be under the impression that they still actually care about WIS... |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
409
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:31:00 -
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I agree. By now they could let us at least to the next door in the corridor behind this one  .
Remove insurance. |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
87
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Posted - 2013.10.12 21:33:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:I agree. By now they could let us at least to the next door in the corridor behind this one .
An infinite repeating series like the opening scene from Get Smart.. Brilliant!
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Alexa Coates
Federation Navy Assembly Group LLC
673
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:00:00 -
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inb4 crybabby MUH SPACESHIPS
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers. |
John Tomplin
EVE University
Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2013.10.13 01:53:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:inb4 crybabby MUH SPACESHIPS
I'm guessing this means more spaceships. Spaceships are great, but I want a corporation lounge! something like that at any rate. The game is not just about shooting things. Role playing is half of it. While I don't talk in and out of character or describe how I walk around (it just feels strange to me), I appreciate the RP aspects of the game.
Role playing will inspire the "community" of players, right now we just have battlefield and stations where the action takes place, but is kind of dull. A corporate lounge or something similar will bring the characters to life.
I just think its about a role playing universe, not merely a shoot-em-up space game |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
434
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:01:00 -
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They could decontaminate the stations by deleting Incarna from the game. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
455
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:54:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:They could decontaminate the stations by deleting Incarna from the game.
And nothing worth while was lost.
You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
Insurance Fraud.
316
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Posted - 2013.10.13 02:59:00 -
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FRUCKIN LET US IN!
There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Morihei Akachi
State War Academy
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.10.13 04:42:00 -
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I would like a boardroom. With a few appropriate emotes, such as /glaresangrilyatlogisticsguy and /shufflesnervouslyinpapers. |
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1484
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:00:00 -
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Why don't they just add a video screen to the CQ where players can play Somer Blink all day? Might as well just integrate that 100% fully trusted third party right into the game.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Draydin Warsong
State Protectorate
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:12:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:
Why don't they just add a video screen to the CQ where players can play Somer Blink all day? Might as well just integrate that 100% fully trusted third party right into the game.
The butthurt just oozes from this one. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Volition.
301
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:19:00 -
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Umm...what is this captain's quarters you speak of?
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Laserak
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:19:00 -
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People still load the station environment? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1485
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:24:00 -
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Laserak wrote:People still load the station environment?
Yep. If you're not going to put some lady friends on my captain's bed, why give me a captain's quarters?
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
822
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Posted - 2013.10.13 07:26:00 -
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Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1253
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:11:00 -
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rawr! |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2122
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:17:00 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:They could decontaminate the stations by deleting Incarna from the game. And nothing worth while was lost.
Except CARBON, and therefore every bit of content released in every expansion after it. V3, TiDi, all the new UI since Incarna. FW, the new Crimwatch system and bounties. Everything gone. Because you deleted "Incarna".
I think perhaps you meant "Captains Quarters".
Laserak wrote:People still load the station environment?
According to the CSM meeting minutes more than 25% of clients have it active. So, if the average player has two accounts (probably more than that) and they only need CQ active on one screen then technically more than 50% of players have it active.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
No Means No
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:26:00 -
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Id be fine with a simple /dance
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I Was There
Scorpion Invest
89
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:57:00 -
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They should make it possible to open the door. When you open it, a cutscene will appear and you see yourself walk around a few seconds, before you're mugged by brutor slave children. |
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Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
212
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Posted - 2013.10.13 10:57:00 -
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I agree, but I have given up all hope of ever seeing good game-play out of it.
I'm still waiting for the announcement that only half of Rubicon was announced and there is actually more to this ****** little patch. No announcement, then no sub. I think I have had enough. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
443
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Posted - 2013.10.13 13:55:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
There would be no "next feature". Dust is avatar gameplay and look how wonderful that piece of crap is doing.
EDIT:
Forgot to add, go back to WoW |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
201
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:02:00 -
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I just don't see how it's going to work. can you have 2000 avatars running about a station without problems?
i mean obviously if jita turned into babylon 5 that would be of interest but i'd much prefer they make the stuff CCP seagull was talking about on the rubicon livestream a priority.
freelance space bum |
Zsaryna Adrelana
Red Galaxy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.10.13 14:39:00 -
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They should mint some special 25 cent pieces for the ten year anniversary and give them out as gifts to the players. They're coins that are meant to be distributed by the captain of the ship to the crew.
The Captain's Quarters...
I'll get my coat.
This post does not constitute, unless clearly indicated otherwise, a statement of policy, opinion or approval by my corporation, alliance or coalition and should not be treated as such. |
HardRockLife
War Decs Inc
5
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Posted - 2013.10.13 18:42:00 -
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Zsaryna Adrelana wrote:They should mint some special 25 cent pieces for the ten year anniversary and give them out as gifts to the players. They're coins that are meant to be distributed by the captain of the ship to the crew.
The Captain's Quarters...
I'll get my coat.
No need we just fweemed and podded you.
I like that this is a true statement in this game.
I want my forum bounty button already!
Also the door should open and reveal...
a TOILET |
Ubat Batuk
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.10.13 19:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Falin Whalen wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:They could decontaminate the stations by deleting Incarna from the game. And nothing worth while was lost. Except CARBON, and therefore every bit of content released in every expansion after it. V3, TiDi, all the new UI since Incarna. FW, the new Crimwatch system and bounties. Everything gone. Because you deleted "Incarna". I think perhaps you meant "Captains Quarters". Laserak wrote:People still load the station environment? According to the CSM meeting minutes more than 25% of clients have it active. So, if the average player has two accounts (probably more than that) and they only need CQ active on one screen then technically more than 50% of players could have it active.
I would load the CQ if there was something behind the door... I suspect we'll see this only after WoD is launched, simply because a lot could be reused from it. Stations sre so huge that you could have a whole city into it... just speculating tho... |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1494
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Posted - 2013.10.13 19:24:00 -
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Zsaryna Adrelana wrote:They should mint some special 25 cent pieces for the ten year anniversary and give them out as gifts to the players. They're coins that are meant to be distributed by the captain of the ship to the crew.
The Captain's Quarters...
I'll get my coat.
Every player should be gifted captain's quarters with his or her likeness imprinted upon them. We could trade them with our friends and sell on market.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Nadia Barsrallah
Nerbles
1
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Posted - 2013.10.13 19:44:00 -
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EVE cannot claim its a hardcore pvp game when you are invulnerable in a 0.0 station. I'm a space barbie who wants to head shot and tea-bag corpses. |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
150
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:18:00 -
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EVE is forever a game of internet spaceships. And thanks to CCP those spaceships have gotten better and better, balanced, fixed. Time-dilation has in many ways fixed server stability from when Incarna first came out.
They've done an amazing job catering to starships. Nine years playing and forever a PvPer, I can vouch.
But what they haven't catered very hugely to has been the lore.
Nine years and there's still a wall between the players and the massive (dark) world that is EVE Online's lore.
In fact, there's been a slow decline of the lore since Empyrean Age: Incarna took away a lot of individuality within character options and key racial features. Key characters within the lore have slowly been killed off without any notable replacements. (Caldari Prime was a great touch, but doesn't fill the void very well between events and didn't strongly impact the players within the lore.)
We were finally able to venture outside the capsule but still never allowed to show face as to who we are in the world.
Other parts of the stations would be nice.
More character customization would be nice.
Lore representation of your assets would be nice. (IE, customizing crew for a ship, which would tweak an implant's worth of passives in that ship, with time and enough veterancy maybe a little more.)
Ability to interact with NPCs would be nice. (Such interviewing assets of missions, such as the militants you just scooped.)
Ability to assign passengers to your captains quarters would also be nice. (They would come with assorted props and would change various places around the captain's quarters with each visit.)
There's plenty of other options suggested out there.
Bottom line: Part of what makes EVE Online so deep, powerful, and profoundly ambient is the lore. The lore is defined by the characters involved. We in many ways are the characters.
Who we are is shaped by features of Incarna, WIS, and that which isn't internet spaceships.
CCP has honored us by fixing and balancing one side of EVE now. Please help encourage them not to forget the other side.
After all, you want more people to kill, right? |
John Tomplin
EVE University
Ivy League
23
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:37:00 -
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Isis Dea wrote:
After all, you want more people to kill, right?
Bang on. This is about the Thrill. I don't think some gamers get that. Pixels get boring, the mind needs stimulus. Story and Lore give that.
The choice to include Lore, storyline, and other embellishments does not exclude PVP, it enhances the excitement of it. This isn't a case of either/or this is a case of and/or. People into computers should get the difference. |
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1495
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Posted - 2013.10.13 20:42:00 -
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To add to the lore, we could have someone go around and kill or kidnap all the mission agents. One by one, another mission agentgoes missing... could it be the same group that cloaked all the asteroids preventing miners from mining?
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Mandy Bonebright
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:09:00 -
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They could open the CQ door, but that would be a very bad idea as it is an airlock to space. WWWWHHHHOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH! Vacuum. |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
599
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:20:00 -
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OP is correct, +1. |
Louise Beethoven
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:22:00 -
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The thing that was meant to give us ambulatory freedom is basically a prison |
HardRockLife
War Decs Inc
7
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Posted - 2013.10.13 21:47:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:To add to the lore, we could have someone go around and kill or kidnap all the mission agents. One by one, another mission agentgoes missing... could it be the same group that cloaked all the asteroids preventing miners from mining?
Ha you cant stop me from mining, I use gravimetric eccm to see through your pathetic electromagnetic ruse.
Of course if you manage to come up with the negative mass necessary to counter that, we in the business would most intrigued and will contact you from Arkonis. |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
158
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:02:00 -
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Realized this isn't the best topic/forum category to throw a list down. Decided instead to make a better topic in the Ideas section of the forums for this stuff and opened it up to the public.
I have a feeling this thread was made for another purpose. 
The topic can be found here.
If we really want to see expansion beyond that door or character customization in general, one will need to generate the buzz for it. Currently there's still a lot of fear of CCP migrating from internet spaceships and only Roleplayers tend to push for these topics and/or do not bump them.
If you think the threat of migrating is over and you honestly have (constructive) ideas of what to feature. I'd head over there and make your voice known. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
447
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:41:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I really want to start a fight in a bar...
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Eko Fromtv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:50:00 -
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Support!
I have been saying this since day 1 of Incarna. It is the future. Too bad the vocal minority managed to shut down the development and somehow tied WiS and CQ with the lulzy aurum store.
For the ones that have missed it, read this:
http://www.ninveah.com/2013/10/incanra-second-chance.html
I will quote one very important sentence: "moving Eve beyond "just spaceships" into actual Sci Fi simulator."
Please CCP, continue the development of WiS. Some of us, MOST OF US want it. Don;t let a bunch of "muuuh spacehips!!!" 'tards spoil the whole experience for the rest of us. EVE is a game about space, science fiction immersion, spaceships, avatars, player interaction, walking in stations, etc.
(Ice) Miner for life. |
Cpt Tirel
60
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Posted - 2013.10.13 23:59:00 -
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do it |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
Self Sabatoge
1502
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:01:00 -
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They should test out the functionailty in Jita. What better place to open some bars and gambling establishments? We could even have some small businesses open stores offering one of a kind contract deals. I'd totally open up shop in an isk doubling store, I just ask that I too can serve liquor for my guests.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
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HardRockLife
War Decs Inc
8
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:10:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:They should test out the functionailty in Jita. What better place to open some bars and gambling establishments? We could even have some small businesses open stores offering one of a kind contract deals. I'd totally open up shop in an isk doubling store, I just ask that I too can serve liquor for my guests.
Drunk people can't provide consent and thus cannot legally transfer such large ISK sums as necessary for your game.
Further doing such things is frowned upon by the law and tends to get very interested people looking closely at everything.
And Concord has a very good ability to see everything, FOREVER (Read that in Pinkie Pie's voice for appropriate effect) |
Iudicium Vastus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:12:00 -
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Even is WiS is abandoned and never to be done, I'm sure at least inviting another capsuleer into your CQs can be done, long as docked in same station. As for why would someone want to do that, maybe to pass some time playing a card mini-game while waiting for something else or holding out during some station games.
And a corp 'lounge' would be very nice. They don't necessarily have to be connected in any sensible manner to a CQ but just simply go to door, and select "go to Corp Office" and it'll load that environment without any connecting hallways or paths. |
visitante inferno
Knights of Shame
11
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Posted - 2013.10.14 00:24:00 -
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they should have a built in hotel where players can opt in to make new clones rofl |
Metal Icarus
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
645
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Posted - 2013.10.14 03:33:00 -
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I for one, need to use the bathroom which is beyond the door |
Anomaly One
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.10.14 04:52:00 -
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Mandy Bonebright wrote:They could open the CQ door, but that would be a very bad idea as it is an airlock to space. WWWWHHHHOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHH! Vacuum.
Get into CQ with another mate strap some explosives on him and open the door new flight bombers!
corpse pvp, a flying man attacking a stilleto can you alpha him in time? |
Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.10.14 09:11:00 -
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Ubat Batuk wrote:
I would load the CQ if there was something behind the door... I suspect we'll see this only after WoD is launched, simply because a lot could be reused from it. Stations sre so huge that you could have a whole city into it... just speculating tho...
Not related to anything but hot damn, your avatar that is. |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2143
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Posted - 2013.10.14 12:03:00 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
There would be no "next feature". Dust is avatar gameplay and look how wonderful that piece of crap is doing. EDIT: Forgot to add, go back to WoW
Nice comparison. Dust is a Playstation 3 FPS. Your an idiot.
Edit:
Forgot to add, go crawl back up your mother's vagina. No one wants you here.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Savnire Jacitu
FRONTLiNE GRP.
186
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Posted - 2013.10.14 14:51:00 -
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I'm waiting for a sexy dance animation.
<corrupt> |
LordSwift
Wrabble Wrousers
The Rejects.
13
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Posted - 2013.10.14 15:10:00 -
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If only X-rebirth was slightly coop or small scale multi player i wouldn't be on eve for a long time. :)
Mal: "If anyone gets nosy, just...you know... shoot 'em. "
Zoe: "Shoot 'em?"
Mal: "Politely." |
Isis Dea
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
176
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:17:00 -
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Savnire Jacitu wrote:I'm waiting for a sexy dance animation.
We've got a thread going in the Ideas section of the forums for this and much more. I'd love for you to describe more about said sexy dance there. :3
Topic link. |
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Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
209
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:40:00 -
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Eko Fromtv wrote:Support! I have been saying this since day 1 of Incarna. It is the future. Too bad the vocal minority managed to shut down the development and somehow tied WiS and CQ with the lulzy aurum store. For the ones that have missed it, read this: http://www.ninveah.com/2013/10/incanra-second-chance.htmlI will quote one very important sentence: "moving Eve beyond "just spaceships" into actual Sci Fi simulator."Please CCP, continue the development of WiS. Some of us, MOST OF US want it. Don;t let a bunch of "muuuh spacehips!!!" 'tards spoil the whole experience for the rest of us. EVE is a game about space, science fiction immersion, spaceships, avatars, player interaction, walking in stations, etc.
i think any skepticism toward that endeavour would be based on the obvious engineering challenges of retrofitting it into a ten year old game rather than being against these things in general.
maybe they could roll it out slowly though. it would be amazing if we could have WiS at the major trade hubs.
freelance space bum |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
904
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Posted - 2013.10.14 18:48:00 -
[52] - Quote
Don't worry, you'll get next WiS expansion in 3-10 years when CCP will reanimate World of Darkness development after ditching Dust and Valkyrie. |
Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
214
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:04:00 -
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After all this time, I don't think there is anything more we can do to show our enthusiasm for WiS content. Aside from unsub that is. |
I dont troll
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:09:00 -
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Can someone please point me to the old threadnaught whine about WIS being introduced....... |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
602
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:12:00 -
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I long to see the day where I can not only walk inside stations, but walk inside individual ships... like Mass Effect...
To see the hundreds of thousands of people working, buzzing around, etc. inside an Avatar, or to see the small, inexperienced crew of a Reaper trying to work their way up and earn a living...
This introduces TREMENDOUS potential for exploring the lore and adding a vibrant single player (or co-op) story experience to the game. It would increase immersion, and make EVE the only sci-fi game anyone will ever need... |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
1522
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Posted - 2013.10.14 21:45:00 -
[56] - Quote
Nyancat Audeles wrote:I long to see the day where I can not only walk inside stations, but walk inside individual ships... like Mass Effect...
To see the hundreds of thousands of people working, buzzing around, etc. inside an Avatar, or to see the small, inexperienced crew of a Reaper trying to work their way up and earn a living...
This introduces TREMENDOUS potential for exploring the lore and adding a vibrant single player (or co-op) story experience to the game. It would increase immersion, and make EVE the only sci-fi game anyone will ever need...
Personally, I think the owners of Stargate, Star Trek, and Star Wars should license the content to CCP so that those series can have an MMO that actually stands the test of time. Each series could have its own universe yet be connected.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
455
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Posted - 2013.10.14 22:57:00 -
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visitante inferno wrote:they should have a built in hotel where players can opt in to make new clones rofl
...in Rancer |
wowyouareacow
Ordo Drakonis
Nulli Secunda
22
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Posted - 2013.10.15 01:53:00 -
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Tbh if you want this kind of thing I suggest you do this in another game... I don't think it's good for CCP to invest time in WIS atm for this spaceship game. |
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2013.10.15 05:39:00 -
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CCP can add content to stations, can do this pretty well and pretty soon. Their problem is not limited resources, but divided focus. DUST, World of Darkness and now Valkyrie??
I doubt it would take less than a year to add only toilets. Sadly one game which made CCP what it is today is now only one of the four in the priority list. As a result, all we have a are a few fixes and balances and some cosmetic changes under the title of "major expansions".
Sadly... |
Alex Grison
Grison Industrial Group
578
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Posted - 2013.10.15 05:44:00 -
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I can go out.
Or rather they "strongly advise me to remain inside"
http://www.twitter.com/Alex__Grison |
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Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
605
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:25:00 -
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wowyouareacow wrote:Tbh if you want this kind of thing I suggest you do this in another game... I don't think it's good for CCP to invest time in WIS atm for this spaceship game.
And here is the minority speaking again.
The positive feedback from this change would be MASSIVE. EVE would be all over every gaming news venue, and it would be the go-to sci-fi game. If you've seen some of the Incarna previews, WiS was well underway, at least half-way done - Station interiors, bars, minigames, you name it - the models were done, the engine was done, and then people with toasters for computers started crying and we never got what was promised.
I doubt CCP deleted all of their precious work with WiS. It has so much potential - it's time to release something with it! |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2884
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:42:00 -
[62] - Quote
Still want a planning room and interactive map to plan fleet movements, analyze combat statistics, etc. Like in that one teaser where the guy was looking at the map and the capsuleer sov was moving closer to high. Like that but more functional, and shared in-game with as many people that are in the board room.
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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2884
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Posted - 2013.10.15 19:47:00 -
[63] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I really want to start a fight in a bar...
ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE.
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Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:47:00 -
[64] - Quote
Nyancat Audeles wrote:And here is the minority speaking again. We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.
And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
... but you're not.
It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about, but yet,
because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself
and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.
Thanks for paying, btw ! |
Solstice Project's Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:49:00 -
[65] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes. CCP should open the door, give us some avatar gameplay, and then move onto the next feature.
I really want to start a fight in a bar... ALSO THIS. Oh, you're docked? That's cool. WE'LL GANK YOU INSIDE. CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.
Imagine this happening ... the carebears and low self esteem escapists would ragequit en masse. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1624
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:51:00 -
[66] - Quote
it's impossible to make them understand that, they've spent so much energy deluding themselves into thinking the opposite and that wis is eve's only future |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1624
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Posted - 2013.10.15 20:51:00 -
[67] - Quote
btw solstice project is sooo much cooler than his alt, just saying, his alt makes him look bad by association |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2167
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:30:00 -
[68] - Quote
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:Nyancat Audeles wrote:And here is the minority speaking again. We know that you're part of the minority, you don't need to point it out.
Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this and counting the fors and against.
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:CCP never intended WiS to contain any actual combat.
Read the Avatar exploration prototype thread. CCP really did intend there to be PvP.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 21:50:00 -
[69] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:Sorry Solstice. Take a look around, Pro WiS are not the minority. Try going through threads like this
nice data sourcing. you've discovered that wis threads have a certain proportion of people interested in wis. this does not indicate what eve players are interested in, though. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
834
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:07:00 -
[70] - Quote
Threads about wanting avatar gameplay have been a constant feature on these forums.
People want avatar gameplay.
Deal with it. Preferably without bursting into tears.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:18:00 -
[71] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:People want avatar gameplay.
all ten of them, lawl |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
607
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:31:00 -
[72] - Quote
The funny thing is... neither Solstice nor her alts posting in this thread described what the f*ck was the problem they have with WiS. They say "developer resources" but it's already been pointed out that the vast majority of work for WiS has been already finished; so they have no option but to troll.
Also, it was the vocal minority who stopped development with WiS. It still is the vocal minority that is against it - nearly everyone I have talked to, and I'd argue that the vast majority of people playing EVE would absolutely love a rich, out-of-spaceship experience in stations. It would add a whole new dimension of gameplay. I don't see what is so hard for them to understand about this. |
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
239
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:32:00 -
[73] - Quote
visitante inferno wrote:they should have a built in hotel where players can opt in to make new clones rofl
Well, it would take 9 months for the new clone to be ready, and 18 to be ready to be a capsuleer, but sure. I support this feature and/or service. :D |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
607
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:41:00 -
[74] - Quote
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.
Oh really? What makes you say this?
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
Really, great argument you have there!
"You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!"
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about
I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself.
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
because you and the likes of you are so full of yourself
and because you are so desperate in need for of escapism, you simply don't get it.
Bravo! Again, nice argument you have there!
"You want walking in stations, so that makes you [insert undesirable qualities here] !" |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
221
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:49:00 -
[75] - Quote
Nyancat, I don't think a teaser really counts as evidence that WiS was significantly advanced. it could be mocked up, companies do this all the time.
freelance space bum |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
1629
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Posted - 2013.10.15 22:55:00 -
[76] - Quote
Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
We know that you're part of the minority,
you don't need to point it out.
Oh really? What makes you say this? Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
And i understand that you've meant it the other way round,
but trying to explain it to you is of no use anyway.
Really, great argument you have there! "You're wrong, and I don't know why, so that makes me right!"
you, uh, don't see any similarities between solstice's 'argument' and your own?
Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
It's so extremely obvious, simply based on what's going on
and who CCP cares about
I'm sure you're enjoying that CCP roadmap you have with yourself.
he's talking about every expansion and csm meeting from crucible to rubicon and also the fact that noone is working on wis |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
986
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Posted - 2013.10.15 23:19:00 -
[77] - Quote
Priceless.
The Tears Must Flow |
Barkaial Starfinder
Eixo do Mal
68
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:32:00 -
[78] - Quote
Some people seem to not know why Incarna was shunned.
It was not because a part of the player base didn't care about WiS. Everything you develop in a game will bother some people, no matter what, and this has happened in every EVE expansion.
There are several reasons why Incarna was so different, including the fact that many aspects of FiS were broken and left to rot.
When people saw that all we got was a single player room, almost everyone that liked or disliked WiS got upset.
It they did Incarna as it should be back then, even Wis haters would settle down. |
Anomaly One
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.10.16 02:42:00 -
[79] - Quote
Quote: Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...
That looks awesome to have.. **** they should implement it right now even if no one else could enter just add the features later. |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
422
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Posted - 2013.10.16 04:24:00 -
[80] - Quote
Nyancat Audeles wrote:Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
That said, if you people really were the majority,
then you you easily could make CCP put work into WiS ...
Because CCP never put work into WiS, amirite? Oh wait...
That's just a small teaser.
I seriously doubt, that CCP has a 40 km long station ready for launch. Let alone dozens of different ones for all races and variants.
On the other side, I'm all for putting agents into a room behind the next corridor and allow Dust mercs to shoot capsuleers while they hand in their missions  .
Remove insurance. |
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
523
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Posted - 2013.10.16 05:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:
Why don't they just add a video screen to the CQ where players can play Somer Blink all day? Might as well just integrate that 100% fully trusted third party right into the game.
Seriously, WIS player owned casino's would be cool |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2169
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:04:00 -
[82] - Quote
ThreadS. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you.
All three of you stupid cunts.
That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Anomaly One
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.10.16 07:36:00 -
[83] - Quote
Kinda funny that goons are in the majority of posters in that thread, inb4 "well they are a big alliance you don't expect them to post stfu" **** |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
529
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Posted - 2013.10.16 09:43:00 -
[84] - Quote
I Was There wrote:They should make it possible to open the door. When you open it, a cutscene will appear and you see yourself walk around a few seconds, before you're mugged by brutor slave children.
Amarr education Video on why Minmatars need to be enslaved to ensure the safety of the devout and law abiding citizen?
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
986
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Posted - 2013.10.16 10:29:00 -
[85] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:Thread S. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you. All three of you stupid cunts. That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read.
You seem mad, you can always go to second life and make your avatar bang is head into a wall.
The Tears Must Flow |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4040
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:20:00 -
[86] - Quote
Hilarious.
Posting from my phone, so quoting is a pain and i'll just respond this way.
"her alts" = "his alt". One. The obvious one. I'm sure you can guess which one.
Made during the ToS ****, not even playing with it.
Benny got it right. Reality is that CCP doesn't work on anything WiS related,
except probably the exploration part, which is not "in Station", btw.
CCCP said that they didn't plan combat elements for WiS,
which i have pointed out. Obviously the exploratio part,
which is IN SPACE will have combat elements.
And again... it wasn't a vocal minority! CCP lost tons of money by losing a few thousand accounts,
which they lost because of the sum of **** they have managed to pile up in such a short amount of time,
that it collapsed right onto them! Get your historic facts straight!
The issue wasn't just the failure Incarna was, but the sum of everything that happened! Now the avatar crowd
comes in short, because people were demanding that CCP concentrates on FiS! On fixing the bugs!
On creating stuff for FiS! People feared CCP will keep concentrating on WiS and completely neglect those people
who are playing spaceships! This too was a part of the reasons why the tower of **** collapsed!
Realitycheck: CCP is working on FiS. Do you see a ragethread filled with hundreds of people quitting
because CCP neglects WiS? No! Did we see a ragethread with hundreds quitting because they neglected FiS?
Yes!
Also. No matter how many people you talk to, there is this little thing called bias. You might actually just seek those
who are pro WiS, which means that you, of course, will find lots of people supporting it! Doesn't matter anyway, though!
You can say whatever you want, but reality is not going to change, unless you make it change!
Unless you collectively vote with your wallets, like people did back then, you have no ground whatsoever!
CCP cares about it's customers and obviously the customers want FiS! That's current reality! No matter how many
words and assumptions you put into it, they don't change reality! Proof: No ragequitting thread about lack of WiS.
Try RealitChecks more often. They help people to stop mixing wishfull thinking with what's going on. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4040
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Posted - 2013.10.16 11:25:00 -
[87] - Quote
But wait, there's even more reality that people are willfully ignoring!
For example the fact that CCP does not prioritize the potential millions (lol)
of potential customers the could eventually gather by makjng more WiS content!
You think they don't know the POSSIBILITY of gaining more customers?
RealityCheck! If they cared, they'd create more WiS content!
Do they do that? No! |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1701
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:02:00 -
[88] - Quote
TBH, I'm not anti-WiS .. I'd be pleasantly surprised with "oh, and guys, so we know we haven't done a lot with WiS that you've known about ... but uh, we were kinda working on it the whole time since Incarna, and we're unlocking the door now ... and we also put cookies in the office" getting added to an expansion -- that is, not the main focus, but just "something else" that they throw in.
No hype, no warning... just maybe it being on SISI, and then patch notes saying it's on TQ.
Anything more (i.e. hype or making WiS the focus of an expansion) will probably do more harm than good at least in the near future.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
222
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:09:00 -
[89] - Quote
yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.
'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda.
freelance space bum |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1703
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Posted - 2013.10.16 12:51:00 -
[90] - Quote
Skeln Thargensen wrote:yes that's exactly the way to do it. drop it on us out of the blue and then popcorn.
'cos we're already suffering from hype fatigue on things we can all agree we want like jove space, new frontier, player owned stargates yadda yadda.
Goddamn ... this is the most I've referred back to the same post/links ever...
The WiS Hype vs. The WiS Reality
THIS is why people got upset about WiS specifically (Incarna was bad all around for many other reasons).
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
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Winters Chill
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
117
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Posted - 2013.10.16 13:40:00 -
[91] - Quote
Iteration on Incarna is a massive can of technical and design worms.
Which stations do you allow pilots to walk about?
Is every station unique (procedural generation) or is it set out pre-baked areas depending on race?
How many players can one area support, do you limit the amount of players in an area (and what about jita).
How do you do the above while maintaining verisimilitude?
What kind of gameplay will it involve? Its has to have something because pure social spaces is a complete waste of (dev) time and money.
What do the players get from the experience? Some people want it but how do you avoid making it entirely igonored?
Do you let players own shops and bars? Then you have to answer the above questions for those.
What about combat?
What about health/life or damage. If you die are you perma dead?
As you can see its a heck of alot of work, do you really want CCP diverting the resources from the core game so you can own a sock shop or a tittie bar? |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2171
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Posted - 2013.10.16 14:53:00 -
[92] - Quote
Vaju Enki wrote:Arduemont wrote:Thread S. You facetious fuckt*rd. So your complete lack of data is better than my lack of data, right? You do realise from a logical stand point you support the hypothesis with the greater amount of data. You may laugh at the small numbers, but they are greater than yours. We should be laughing at you. All three of you stupid cunts. That link doesn't include any people posting with less than 8 posts and they are the vast majority of the posters in the thread. Plus, your "10" is "50". When you can't distinguish between 10 and 50, your a ******* ******. Maybe you should take your stupid **** ass back to school instead of talking in dumb ass on the forums. When you add your smug "lawl" to the end of your sentence you don't look victorious. You look like you can't string a coherent argument together because your too stupid and can't read. You seem mad, you can always go to second life and make your avatar bang is head into a wall.
You seem to have confused being as ass hole with being mad. Although I am an ass hole, I also happen to be right. Which is more than I can say for you.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Nadia Barsrallah
Nerbles
28
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:11:00 -
[93] - Quote
i want combat.
eve claims to be a hardcore pvp game,
yet people will play station games for hours, trash talking and all.
When the reality is, no matter how bad you want to kill someone, no matter how much isk your fleet is worth. you simple can't unlock a door and point a gun at someone's head.
for a game claiming to be hardcore pvp, the death penalty is well.... weak? anyone who PvP's will replace any losses almost instantly. The worse case scenario of dying in eve is a KB record.
its disheartening, that at its core, no matter how well you planned / camped / meta'd your fleet composition. your enemies/victims can simply dock and be perma safe.
Incarna and WiS has the foundational elements to eliminate station games from PvP in EVE, but the bi-lateral split of rpers/second lifers and FiS advocates is drowning.
imagine instead of hours of sov grinding, you just dock in the station and kill all the staff, npc and player alike. Intense in station gun-fight would be alot more gameplay than F1 and walk away for hours.
kill rights could take on a whole new dimension, when the high-sec griefer/pirate doesnt feel so safe docked up.
Walking in stations is a silly
fighting in stations is awesome
station games, trash talking meta, docks and log offs, sov grinding etc.
so many seemingly unrelated pvp gripes and development challenges could be fixed or alleviated by fighting in station.
more ways to kill people is allways going to bring in more customers.
problem is, there is power-players and alliance leaders, who would feel a litte "too vulnerable" if the fighting in station concept went green. Billions and trillions of assets and 1000s of grunts/pilots means nothing if one person can get past all of it to kill you.
then there is the problem of.... what to do about an army camping a medical / cloning lab.
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destiny2
Perkone
Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2013.10.17 17:15:00 -
[94] - Quote
id like a nuclear bomb to put in jita main station to get a bunch of killmails at once.  |
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