Once upon a time there were no mining barges. Back then people would mine in apocalypses.

You know how hard it is to gank an apoc?

This would give the the miners something new and it would make them stop bitching so much .

stuff

Post with your main.

Also, no.

Ganker Tears best Tears


and no

Faction mining barges would be only available in the ORE LP store and thus cost about 1bil+ ISK each. Only Chribba would fly one.

This would give the the miners something new and it would make them stop bitching so much .

Ganker Tears best Tears


and no

i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive

Ganking faction barges would be even more worthwhile. A few Tornadoes should do the trick

so you support ganking?

sorry but if you dont want to get ganked again take the mentioned advice and get your main and alts in mining apocs

Look at my killboard. I dare you to find a single miner kill. In fact, I dare you to find a single high-sec kill. I don't have any... know why? Because I PvP outside high-sec.

Also yes. Post with your main.

Lets start by saying that i personaly dont mine and i fully support ganking mininers, the fact that its allowed makes this game like no other. and i live in null sec so the less ppl mining the better for my corp mates who do mine.

but i was thinking that some times ganking is just too easy and should be made a littel more intresting.

so i would like to see Faction Mining Barges. can fit the same amount of strip mininers but with no mining bonus. instead have an additional 3 higslots for launchers or turrets and the bonuses can be for tank and DPS. like a Damage bonus to FoF missles or a turret bonus.

This way as soon as the would be victim gets agro he can shoot back and help concord kill the ganker faster but if the ganker is sucessful he has a nice faction ship on his killboard. Maybe make them cost the same as the T2 equivalent or higher.

With no mining bonuses to the ships this would not make the current exumers obsel33t.

what you guys think

Perhaps you haven't noticed, but mining barges are all ORE Faction ships.

Just say you want a tier 4 exhumer and run with that.

You seem awful keen to defend these new tanky mining barges for someone who isn't a miner.

Get ganked recently?

i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive

Considering Hulks are 200 mil, Faction barges should be 1 bil minimum.

But hey, it'll tank 40% more gankers!



You truly think miner ganking is actually ''productive'' ?

No, I'm just saying it could be made less appealing by fitting your barge properly.

no, paying attention for harder ganking

We already got faction barges.

Considering a Hulk costs 200 mil, it shouldn't be a piece of paper floating in space. It should actually require a serious investment on the part of the ganker to bring it down.

If you're living in fear of being ganked, mine in a Rokh...pulls in ore than a retriever and you get 200k+ ehp.

But even if that were the case, having moar tank would make botting easier for Nullminers, and it would still do nothing if the alpha strike was high.

Miners should be aligned to station always, and be at least 50% impulse; they'll be gone before they need a tank if they stay aware using D-scan, or even just by looking around.

Instead of having everyone cater to the miners, and make life easier for them, make ganking more rewarding (Higher probability of items being dropped from destroyed ships?) but more dangerous. If the miners suck ass, and just mine AFK, it's their own damn fault for being brain-dead.

And what happens when you get out of range of your mining lazers?

And BTW, unless you're in nullsec, D-scanner to protect miners from ganking is pretty much useless.

Except for the fact that no one caters to miners, and in fact pirates and griefers feel entitled to attack miners.

Just because you don't know how to D-scan effectively, doesn't mean others can't. It's quite easy to setup and monitor...though it does require you to not be afk.

Change alignment to another celestial to stay in range? Target another rock/ice chunk? Be at the keyboard for more than 30s out of every 10 minutes?


Just because you don't know how to D-scan effectively, doesn't mean others can't. It's quite easy to setup and monitor...though it does require you to not be afk.


And I'm grasping my pearls at the notion of people attacking other people in a PvP game when it would be economically advantageous for them to do so! My word, what will we see next, people organizing to blow up freighters carrying billions of isk in goods?

Change alignment to another celestial to stay in range? Target another rock/ice chunk? Be at the keyboard for more than 30s out of every 10 minutes?


Just because you don't know how to D-scan effectively, doesn't mean others can't. It's quite easy to setup and monitor...though it does require you to not be afk.


And I'm grasping my pearls at the notion of people attacking other people in a PvP game when it would be economically advantageous for them to do so! My word, what will we see next, people organizing to blow up freighters carrying billions of isk in goods?

Once upon a time there were no mining barges. Back then people would mine in apocalypses.

You know how hard it is to gank an apoc?

I want utter safety 100% of the time!!!

I, too, think that logging into a PvP game and going AFK in an expensive ship is a great idea.

If you want safety where you can pass out on the keyboard, go to WoW or Hello Kitty. There's a risk in Eve every time you undock. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the risk doesn't make it go away, and denying that the risk exists at all just makes you look and sound dumb.

Mitigate and minimize your risks, and you reduce the odds of taking a loss significantly. Or you can keep flying paper-thin ships that drop pricey modules (along with sweet tears) and likely get blown up much more frequently. It's your choice--and there is a choice there, whether you want to acknowlege it or not.

In the end everything is PvP game accordingly to your description even Tetris is an PvP game. Even solitair is PvP game. Generally you creating condition such as "i win environment" which creates such term as PvP.

But as far as shooting up people who got no clue, time or dont care about your "little imaginary i win condition" PvP game are actually not engaged in such. Their condition of "i win" differs greatly from yours.

As i say : You dont have to approve their understanding of an game as well as you dont have to approve their gameplay but that doesnt mean they are doing it wrong.

Anyway ballpark is yours as you creating it. People will adapt or move out. Simple.

edit...

bolded .. thats probably only problem . As i wrote in different thread once...

Mission runner in "expensive ship and fit" team up with ten friends and is on somewhat safer site.

Miner gank up with 5000 strong subcap fleet and still gonna get destroyed by 20 mil ship ..

Something seems to be off limit there. Not that i mine but still its interesting.

Just give Mining Barges a 3-4 Mid Slots then give Exhumers and Barges Grid to hold a real tank. Large Shield Extenders will make Gankers think, do I really want to spend the ISK to commit this gank.

I am so pissed off to find out the orca can not fit a mining lazor.

CCP is soo stupid to create a mining ship that cant mine.

I want strip miners on my orca FFS well keeping the 3 gang link slot open.
ORCA should be able to mine.

This is my alt.