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Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:03:00 -
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Lets start by saying that i personaly dont mine and i fully support ganking mininers, the fact that its allowed makes this game like no other. and i live in null sec so the less ppl mining the better for my corp mates who do mine. 
but i was thinking that some times ganking is just too easy and should be made a littel more intresting.
so i would like to see Faction Mining Barges. can fit the same amount of strip mininers but with no mining bonus. instead have an additional 3 higslots for launchers or turrets and the bonuses can be for tank and DPS. like a Damage bonus to FoF missles or a turret bonus.
This way as soon as the would be victim gets agro he can shoot back and help concord kill the ganker faster but if the ganker is sucessful he has a nice faction ship on his killboard. Maybe make them cost the same as the T2 equivalent or higher.
With no mining bonuses to the ships this would not make the current exumers obsel33t.
what you guys think |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
61
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:05:00 -
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Once upon a time there were no mining barges. Back then people would mine in apocalypses.
You know how hard it is to gank an apoc? |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:07:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Once upon a time there were no mining barges. Back then people would mine in apocalypses.
You know how hard it is to gank an apoc?
This would give the the miners something new and it would make them stop bitching so much . |

Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
277
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:08:00 -
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Just give Mining Barges a 3-4 Shield Tank then give Exhumers and Barges Grid to hold a real tank. Large Shield Extenders will make Gankers think, do I really want to spend the ISK to commit this gank.
Anyone stupid enough to have empty slots then deserves the loss.
Lando Storm wrote: This would give the the miners something new and it would make them stop bitching so much .
Yes they get to remove half a Brutix's Shield before exploding. |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
61
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:11:00 -
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Post with your main.
Also, no. |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:14:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Post with your main. Also, no.
Ganker Tears best Tears
and no |

Sh0plifter
Black Market Operations
5
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:20:00 -
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'Cause someone planning a gank wont figure out how to do kill an expensive mining barge with the required amount. =/ People already use 5-6 Apocs to nuke a faction BS that is deadspace/officer fit already. |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
61
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:28:00 -
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I personally couldn't give a flying crap about miners bitching. There are things they can do to negate the risk of being ganked at the cost of mining efficiency. It's a fair tadeoff.
Although faction mining barges would make for awesome killmails. |

Abrazzar
268
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:31:00 -
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Faction mining barges would be only available in the ORE LP store and thus cost about 1bil+ ISK each. Only Chribba would fly one. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

flank steak
Ancient Malevolence Rage Alliance
48
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:32:00 -
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Lando Storm wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:Post with your main. Also, no. Ganker Tears best Tears and no
so you support ganking?
sorry but if you dont want to get ganked again take the mentioned advice and get your main and alts in mining apocs
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Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:34:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Faction mining barges would be only available in the ORE LP store and thus cost about 1bil+ ISK each. Only Chribba would fly one.
They dont have to be ORE |

Minta Contha
Emergent Entity KONZERN
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:38:00 -
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Lando Storm wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Once upon a time there were no mining barges. Back then people would mine in apocalypses.
You know how hard it is to gank an apoc? This would give the the miners something new and it would make them stop bitching so much .
How dare you imply that it would stop us bitching! I, sir, have Bitching trained to level V and I din't make mining my profession in order to be happy and content about things! I need to complain and if CCP try to give me nice things, well, it's petition time.
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
62
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:39:00 -
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Lando Storm wrote:
Ganker Tears best Tears
and no
Look at my killboard. I dare you to find a single miner kill. In fact, I dare you to find a single high-sec kill. I don't have any... know why? Because I PvP outside high-sec.
Also yes. Post with your main.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1379
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:39:00 -
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i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive |

Alina Wize
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
44
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:47:00 -
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Ganking faction barges would be even more worthwhile. A few Tornadoes should do the trick    |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:49:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive
+1 |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:49:00 -
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yes make it more interesting |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:50:00 -
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flank steak wrote:Lando Storm wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:Post with your main. Also, no. Ganker Tears best Tears and no so you support ganking? sorry but if you dont want to get ganked again take the mentioned advice and get your main and alts in mining apocs 
I did say at the begining of my post that i do support ganking and that i dont mine. |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:51:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Lando Storm wrote:
Ganker Tears best Tears
and no
Look at my killboard. I dare you to find a single miner kill. In fact, I dare you to find a single high-sec kill. I don't have any... know why? Because I PvP outside high-sec. Also yes. Post with your main.
Stop Crying |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
937
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:53:00 -
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Lando Storm wrote:Lets start by saying that i personaly dont mine and i fully support ganking mininers, the fact that its allowed makes this game like no other. and i live in null sec so the less ppl mining the better for my corp mates who do mine.  but i was thinking that some times ganking is just too easy and should be made a littel more intresting. so i would like to see Faction Mining Barges. can fit the same amount of strip mininers but with no mining bonus. instead have an additional 3 higslots for launchers or turrets and the bonuses can be for tank and DPS. like a Damage bonus to FoF missles or a turret bonus. This way as soon as the would be victim gets agro he can shoot back and help concord kill the ganker faster but if the ganker is sucessful he has a nice faction ship on his killboard. Maybe make them cost the same as the T2 equivalent or higher. With no mining bonuses to the ships this would not make the current exumers obsel33t. what you guys think
Perhaps you haven't noticed, but mining barges are all ORE Faction ships. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:54:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Lando Storm wrote:Lets start by saying that i personaly dont mine and i fully support ganking mininers, the fact that its allowed makes this game like no other. and i live in null sec so the less ppl mining the better for my corp mates who do mine.  but i was thinking that some times ganking is just too easy and should be made a littel more intresting. so i would like to see Faction Mining Barges. can fit the same amount of strip mininers but with no mining bonus. instead have an additional 3 higslots for launchers or turrets and the bonuses can be for tank and DPS. like a Damage bonus to FoF missles or a turret bonus. This way as soon as the would be victim gets agro he can shoot back and help concord kill the ganker faster but if the ganker is sucessful he has a nice faction ship on his killboard. Maybe make them cost the same as the T2 equivalent or higher. With no mining bonuses to the ships this would not make the current exumers obsel33t. what you guys think Perhaps you haven't noticed, but mining barges are all ORE Faction ships.
Ok then we can name them Navy Mining Wesels if that makes you feel better. |

Rod Blaine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
4
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:54:00 -
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no, paying attention for harder ganking
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
939
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:55:00 -
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Just say you want a tier 4 exhumer and run with that. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
62
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:58:00 -
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Allow rorquals in highsec. |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 18:58:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Just say you want a tier 4 exhumer and run with that.
sure why not Tier 4 it is |

Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
54
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:01:00 -
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Tank a hulk properly and it can survive most gank attempts, they'd have to throw real isk into the gank to destroy your hulk and by then it becomes counter productive. |

Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
62
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:04:00 -
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You seem awful keen to defend these new tanky mining barges for someone who isn't a miner.
Get ganked recently? |

Lando Storm
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:10:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:You seem awful keen to defend these new tanky mining barges for someone who isn't a miner.
Get ganked recently?
0/10 on the T meter.
|

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
12
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:19:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive
Considering Hulks are 200 mil, Faction barges should be 1 bil minimum.
But hey, it'll tank 40% more gankers!
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Gealbhan
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
54
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Posted - 2011.11.01 19:36:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Weaselior wrote:i support faction mining barges but only if they're hilariously expensive Considering Hulks are 200 mil, Faction barges should be 1 bil minimum. But hey, it'll tank 40% more gankers! Gealbhan wrote:Tank a hulk properly and it can survive most gank attempts, they'd have to throw real isk into the gank to destroy your hulk and by then it becomes counter productive. You truly think miner ganking is actually ''productive'' ?
No, I'm just saying it could be made less appealing by fitting your barge properly. |
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