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Draugz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.26 14:17:00 -
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My setup:
2x 125mm T2
2x Small 'knave' Nosferatu
1x Warp Scrambler
1x Web
1x Cold Gas AB /Acceleration control rank 3.
1x Small Armor rep t2
1x Damage Control
1x named Explosive hardener.
x3 Valkyrie
x2 Infiltrator
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Dale Cussler
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.08.09 14:14:00 -
[92]
I use either one of these depending on mood:
Setup #1:
High: 4x named nos (knave or ghoul)
Med: 1mn AB II, 7.5k scram, X5 webber
Low: small armor rep II, n-type explo hardener, adaptive nano plate II
Dronebay: 3x Warrior II, 2x Valkyrie II
Setup #2:
Same as above but:
Hight: 3x light ion blaster II, 1 named nos
The latter I use mostly when in a gang so I can add some damage. The first setup is my solo setup because it allows for a truly sick tank.
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Osakasan
Gallente
Exilis inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.27 16:27:00 -
[93]
What do you guys think about something like this?
High: 4x Small 'Knave' I Energy Drain
Medium: 1x X5 Webber, 1x Cold-gas I Arcjet Thrusters, 1x Faint Epsilo Warp Prohibitor 7,5km
Low:SAR II, Armor Explosive Hardener, Damage Control
Drones: 2x Hammerhead II, 2x Hobgoblin II, 1x Warrior II
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Scordite
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Posted - 2006.08.28 16:23:00 -
[94]
small armor rep
passive explosive hardener
damage mod OR cap relay
web
scram
ab OR mwd
small nos
3x guns of choice, please no 150mm though
3x medium ecm drones
2x small neut drones
Ecm drones subvert nos as a threat from cruisers, as well as solves any issues of being webbed and outranged, making blasters viable, which should up your damage to acceptable levels. The tank is mainly for 1vs2-3.
Your main weaknesses are FoF, smartbombs, ecm bursts, and people who tank/regen cap faster than you can damage/drain.
Which basically means you can take anything cruiser or less, with the possible exception of missile boats who were smart enough to plan for getting jammed.
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Lord Stanur
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Posted - 2006.08.28 17:48:00 -
[95]
ecm drone dont solve any problem till you won't jamm much with em.
especially with 3 only.
Did you ever tried em really ?
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Scordite
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Posted - 2006.08.28 18:36:00 -
[96]
Hum, I thought they worked like weak multispecs, but I see now they only jam one sensor type. Shame really 
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CherniyVolk
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:00:00 -
[97]
3xLight Neutron II, Small Diminishing
1MN AB II, Fleeting Webber, 20K Scram
Small Rep II, MAPC (+12 pg), Energized Adaptive Nano II
2xHammerhead IIs, 3xHobgoblin IIs.
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Lord Stanur
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Posted - 2006.08.28 20:20:00 -
[98]
 Originally by: Scordite
Hum, I thought they worked like weak multispecs, but I see now they only jam one sensor type. Shame really
They work indeed like multispectral, jamming your opponent for 20sec.
but well you have to be lucky to land a jamm on a target with those drone, i mean really lucky :)
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Scordite
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Posted - 2006.08.28 22:32:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Scordite on 28/08/2006 22:33:39
Edited by: Scordite on 28/08/2006 22:32:36
Originally by: Lord Stanur
They work indeed like multispectral, jamming your opponent for 20sec.
but well you have to be lucky to land a jamm on a target with those drone, i mean really lucky :)
Wtb better drone stats tab.. Stats seperated in catagories like ships, and the effects of skills and fitted mods appearent.
Oh, by the way, I don't suppose the ecm strenght boosting warfare link affects drones?
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Phantom Harlock
Gallente
Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.09.20 05:42:00 -
[100]
how does the dual nos setup with the 75mm II's loaded with spike s compliment each other since the spike S is gonna give the 75's an optimal of 20+ km and you only have a range of 5,500km on your small nos? the nos mainly for defense?
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Phantom Harlock
Gallente
Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.09.20 19:36:00 -
[101]
bump
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Shinca
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:38:00 -
[102]
you can use AM or javelin (with onyl two guns speed reduction probably won't be that big) and only switch to spike if you need range... obviously you won't be using NOS in that case, at least not on the same target
clones are people two
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Khavi Vetali
Gallente
Team Americas
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:49:00 -
[103]
only load spike if you are dealing with someone who you can't get into web range.
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The Monastic
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Posted - 2006.09.21 22:11:00 -
[104]
Edited by: The Monastic on 21/09/2006 22:11:18
Why not take 7 5m3 drones as opposed to mixing in medium drones. True, you can't bring them out all together, but the overall damage capacity is stronger, plus its more targets for your enemy to have to cycle through, plus I think the overall armour of the drones is higher.
Plus they are harder to hit than medium drones.
Plus its kind of a psychological thing. They think that they got rid of a drone then out comes another.
I dunno though.
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Ares Helix
Gallente
Akat Ranger Corps
Omega Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.22 00:37:00 -
[105]
PVE Setup:
3xNeutron II's with Null
AB II
Drone Nav Comp
Omnidirectional Tracking link
Best DC you can find
Repper II
EANM II
Works very well
They made *ME* a General?
What were all the 5 year old sissy girls busy?
o_0
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How'd he know!?!
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Fourthorseman Griefer
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Posted - 2006.09.28 16:29:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Scordite
Hum, I thought they worked like weak multispecs, but I see now they only jam one sensor type. Shame really
Actually, that's wrong.
They do work like weak multispecs. A Vespa EC-600 has jammer strength of 1.5 across all sensor types. A t1 multispec does 4 points of jamming. They are NOT cummulative in the sense that 4x 1.5 is not 6. Instead, it's 4 independent opportunities to jam at 1.5 strength. That's why they're not real successful.
This is what independent probability means:
If I flip a FAIR coin 100 times in a row and get heads each time, the chance that I will get heads the next time is still .5 because the prior coin tosses have absolutely no effect on the next toss.
IMO, it would be better for CCP to reduce strength on all jammers and make them additive so that jamming cannot be accomplished one-on-one without a specialized ship or totally gimping your mid slots.
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Kruel
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Posted - 2006.10.02 20:19:00 -
[107]
Be a man and structure tank. 
Slap a DC on instead of the 200mm and you'll effectively double your hull hp (to the tune of about 2500hp). The extra pg lets you use bigger guns too, not to mention slightly better resists on shield and armor too.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Nova Republic
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Posted - 2006.10.02 21:52:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 02/10/2006 21:52:03
Originally by: Ares Helix
PVE Setup:
3xNeutron II's with Null
AB II
Drone Nav Comp
Omnidirectional Tracking link
I've never found the OTL to be worth a mid slot for the small and medium drones. They track just fine. I'd put a cap recharger there instead. Good call on the DNC though.
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Ares Helix
Gallente
NunyaBizzness
Omega Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:08:00 -
[109]
Hmmm, They do track well, however, i've noticed that they hit at faster speeds with it (IE when their MWD's are still goin hard!)
The cap charges pretty quick with this lil guy, But I might swap out the ODTL for a charger, then fit a frone link augmentor in my final high slot...
Fasty drones,
Longy range!
They made *ME* a General?
What were all the 5 year old sissy girls busy?
o_0
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How'd he know!?!
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Silver Star Federation
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Posted - 2006.10.02 22:59:00 -
[110]
3x Small 'Knave' Nos 1x Light Ion Blaster II
1x Gistii 1mn Afterburner 1x Dread Guiristas Web 1x True Sansha Warp Scrambler
1x Small Armor Repairer II 1x True Sansha Armor Explosive 1x Pseudo DCU
3x Hammerhead II 2x hobgoblin II
its my baby :)
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente
Cheers Restaurant and Bar
Nova Republic
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Posted - 2006.10.02 23:19:00 -
[111]
Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 02/10/2006 23:21:50
I no longer like to put Damage Controls on my assault frigs. I used to, because Gal AFs have so much structure. But I find that a Mag Stab II is a better use of a low slot. Kill the enemy faster, take less damage, don't need the extra overall resists. AFs are hard to hit and if flown right won't take much damage anyway. If you get webbed by a bigger ship, you're dead no matter what you have in the lows.
I like the SAR II, Mag Stab II, and a Cap relay or Explosive Nanomembrane II, depending on anticipated enemies.
The only time I use a DC is when I am taking on Level 4 missions for fun. Then I tank the lows really good.
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Nagarutu Mishima
The Movement
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:01:00 -
[112]
thought i would trow in my setup here.
High:
3x Small named nos
1x Light elctron/ion blaster (cant remember)
Meds:
1mn afterburner 2
Webbie
disruptor
Lows:
Small armor rep 2
energized adaptive nano 2
Dark blood reactive plating
Gives you decent ress on all resistance accept exp, but whit the db plating you atleast got 50-60% against exp. the nos makes it possible to run the repper for ever. and for dmg, your 5x small t2's does enough. Me and xoria kring accually brought down a raven with 2 ishkurs with this setup.
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Bronna
Caldari
Advanced Security And Asset Protection
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Posted - 2006.10.15 13:44:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Bronna on 15/10/2006 13:47:21
Edited by: Bronna on 15/10/2006 13:44:58
There is only one setup for the truly skillful:
3x t2 neutron, 1x small nos
1x disruptor
1x web
1x mwd
1x t2 energized plating (need the skills for it to be as useful as a hardener)
1x mapc
1x t2 repper
5x t2 warrior
Only thing that can trouble you is a HAC or a thorax. You will beat the thorax but it will be a close fight.
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Silverphish
Gallente
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2006.10.15 14:23:00 -
[114]
Sorry for not understanding the probably obvious...But doesn't the Ishkur have 20m3 drone capacity? Which is like, loads too small for everyones drone setups here? Could someone please explain!?
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Fourthorseman Griefer
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Posted - 2006.10.16 22:02:00 -
[115]
Read the description more fully.
There is a bonus to drone bay size per AS skill level.
See also Ishtar.
BTW, it's 15 to start, meaning 40 at assault ship 5.
Have a mYARRRRvelous day 
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TotalSupport
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Posted - 2006.10.22 07:27:00 -
[116]
Does anyone think Of using this Ships Drone abilities to max use and making it a range opposition
Iam Currently using
Highs
3x 125mm t2 with a drone link
Meds
sensor boost afterburner t2 and cap recharger
Lows
true sansha reactive pating 100mm rolled and small rep t2
ALSO TWO t2 Hammerheads and 3 t2 Hobies
85 k locking range 65 k drone range locking anything Takes less than 2 secs
Tell me what you think
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Harsibash
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Posted - 2006.10.24 01:45:00 -
[117]
Well you can use your drones at that range, but:
a) It takes an age for your drones to get there, we are tlaking about 20-30 secs.
b) You are usless, the whole point of an AF is it mauls other frigates - your basically using an expensive and rather poor vexor rip.
c) You cant warp scram, as soon as your drones start to win (if they win) the target will warp off, then youve just wasted some time and probably a few drones in the fight.
Im fairly new to Gallente ships - but what ive flown and seen so far is outragously overpowered and great to fly (my main is minnie, not used to this sort of pampering)
this is a setup I'll be trying while flying with an interceptor pilot in 0.0
3x Light Electron Blaster II, Small Diminishing nos
j5 proto warp scram, langour web, small ineficient hull repair unit
Damage Control I, 200mm Rolled tung, small armor repairer II
5xHobgoblin II
2xlight Web Drone
1xlight Armor rep drone
this setup probably seems completely nuts, and tbh im wondering myself how i concieved it. Its an extension of the rather infamous 'DUal-Plated Punisher'.
In 0.0, repairing after a fight is a big problem, hence the 2 repairers, plus the drone to repair my armor tanking interceptor friend during/after frights. Taking into account resistances... you have an effetive 3+k of hitpoints for someone to eat through. Even a taranis cant DPS enough to kill that before the drones and blasters completely obliterate it. The DPS isnt great, about 93 with drones and **** skills. load in Void if you want more damage.
If i see an ishkur, i get in as close as i can - thats where ishkurs die... point blanks 'cause they are popular rail boats. So most people will head-on any AF they see, which plays into my advantage. If they want to keep range on me and i cant catch them, then the 2 webber drones slow em down while i get out of scram distance and escape.
Feel free to shout at this setup... but based on my experience with 'slow tanked' frigs - the small sig radius means they can avoid larger ships, but can take stupid ammounts of punishment from other frigs. Just steer clear of HAC's... but hey, who doesn't normally?
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Zhou Sengokuan
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Posted - 2006.10.26 17:17:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Harsibash
Well you can use your drones at that range, but:
a) It takes an age for your drones to get there, we are tlaking about 20-30 secs.
b) You are usless, the whole point of an AF is it mauls other frigates - your basically using an expensive and rather poor vexor rip.
c) You cant warp scram, as soon as your drones start to win (if they win) the target will warp off, then youve just wasted some time and probably a few drones in the fight.
Im fairly new to Gallente ships - but what ive flown and seen so far is outragously overpowered and great to fly (my main is minnie, not used to this sort of pampering)
this is a setup I'll be trying while flying with an interceptor pilot in 0.0
3x Light Electron Blaster II, Small Diminishing nos
j5 proto warp scram, langour web, small ineficient hull repair unit
Damage Control I, 200mm Rolled tung, small armor repairer II
5xHobgoblin II
2xlight Web Drone
1xlight Armor rep drone
this setup probably seems completely nuts, and tbh im wondering myself how i concieved it. Its an extension of the rather infamous 'DUal-Plated Punisher'.
In 0.0, repairing after a fight is a big problem, hence the 2 repairers, plus the drone to repair my armor tanking interceptor friend during/after frights. Taking into account resistances... you have an effetive 3+k of hitpoints for someone to eat through. Even a taranis cant DPS enough to kill that before the drones and blasters completely obliterate it. The DPS isnt great, about 93 with drones and **** skills. load in Void if you want more damage.
If i see an ishkur, i get in as close as i can - thats where ishkurs die... point blanks 'cause they are popular rail boats. So most people will head-on any AF they see, which plays into my advantage. If they want to keep range on me and i cant catch them, then the 2 webber drones slow em down while i get out of scram distance and escape.
Feel free to shout at this setup... but based on my experience with 'slow tanked' frigs - the small sig radius means they can avoid larger ships, but can take stupid ammounts of punishment from other frigs. Just steer clear of HAC's... but hey, who doesn't normally?
When has there been such a thing as a light web drone? Mwahahaha. Ive never seen one. Last time I checked there was only one kind and it takes 25m3 of drone bay space.
So let us know when those light web drones hit tranquility. We will believe you next time. Right
Haha
Nice try
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:21:00 -
[119]
Long range
3x 125mm, nos
ab, 20k scram, web
rep, mapc, 200mm plate
2x valk, 3x warrior (I don't have AF5 yet)
Short range
3x nos, light ion
ab, 7.5 scram, web
rep, expl hardener, damage control
2x hammerhead, 3x hob
Don't even fly it if the mods aren't tech2.
I also tried going full gank with 3 neutrons and a magstab2, but I lost to a Jaguar.  Ishkur seems better off tanking and letting drones do the grunt work.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.17 21:20:00 -
[120]
Yep doesn't fit. Adv weapon upgrades won't help in that case either since the skill doesn't affect nos.
I'd rather go with a named mwd anyway, and a mapc and 200mm plate in lows. That fits with 0.0pg remaining.
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