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Pistonbroke	Posted - 2006.01.31 13:30:00 - [31] played Elite on BBC B, then Spectrum, then C64. then life went dull for a decade and a half....... I tried the armed forces, tried motorsports, started a family....... Then i found Elite II (Eve Online) Now if you could just pull a reverse spiral loop and keep your beams on the enemy ship for the full maneuver like in Elite............
Vendris Saral	Posted - 2006.01.31 13:39:00 - [32] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P Tradewars! wipes a tear from his eye Aaah, Good times.
Dahin	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:47:00 - [33] scratch one less on for RL...
LDMcFear	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:49:00 - [34] Originally by: mrg29 Originally by: Aeon Yakati Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 28/01/2006 15:36:14 Originally by: mrg29 Edited by: mrg29 on 28/01/2006 13:53:11 Originally by: Bl4zer When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. i get annoyed to a degree when i read posts like this. this is a game not reality. So I guess you wouldn't mind your projectile guns to be shooting pink bubblegum or raspberry jam either, would you Quote: make the game more "real" and it stops being a game. Okay, so we got mass, inertia, thrust and all the other neat things we happen to have in real life too, and you're perfectly fine with slow turning at high speed, or good tracking at big distances, but when someone suggests to connect some more dots (no one said all the dots, i.e. subwarp physics only), you're suddenly like OH NOES ITS NOT A GAME ANYMORE!!!!11 I think you have some issues there to work out. EVE will always be a game, even with Newton's third law (unless ofcourse it becomes so real to you, you ducttape your windows to prevent air from leaking out..) i haven't got any issues to work out. the point i was trying to make is the "reality" aspect i was originally commenting on has been implemented in the way it has to make the game mechanics work and whether thats out of line with reality then so be it coz it makes the game work. yes there are alot of aspects and terminology in the game that are based on real life things, that helps people comfort levels as they can relate to it easier but if u actually read and understood the context of my comments u would understand that the point i was making was the number one priority is making the game playable. if that means "reality" or the laws of physics have to be ignored then so be it. Exactly this game is Science Fiction. The Laws of physics can be bent, kicked, distorted, and manipulated so the game works its awesome.
Kim Chee	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:05:00 - [35] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) I played (well, obsessed might be a better word) Elite on the C64. The good old days, when computers just worked. :) I also played it on the Amiga, but even with filled (!) polygons, it was a tad fast. Originally by: Iacon I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's Nice. Is it a freeware one? I remember finding one a while back, but it still ran too fast to be really playable. Heh, maybe rewrite it in java. grin Oh, and to the fellow who was complaining about wanting RL physics.... Elite used a personal time accelerator -- which if you think about it, is mostly the same thing as a warp drive. If you want RL physics, get a copy of Independance War 2. Full newtonian physics and all the pain that comes with it. The aborted project for a Babylon 5 game is floating around out there too. *Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon*: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
Hawk Firestorm	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:19:00 - [36] Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Yes you'll feel right at home it's got just as many bugs too. hehe
Chinsor	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:23:00 - [37] eves nuthin compared to elite 2, im just playing this until they improve elite 2's graphics ---------------------------------------------
Adago Vilon	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:45:00 - [38] Elite-esque manual aiming (only for pulse and beam lasers)4TW!!
Kazender	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon please please please please please send me that game! I want C++ version of elite ... i would give you my emal address but i'm not stupid enough to post it on a public forum
Nev Clavain	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:04:00 - [40] In my opinion Elite in all its incarnations is and always will be better than EVE. You can play EVE a bit like Elite, but really its something a bit different. I loved Elite for the escapism of it all, it actually left me feeling like a space trader. EVE doesnt do that, its not subtle enough in my opinion: the graphics are rammed down your throat, and your actual movement in space is limited in the most rediculously unrealistic ways, just to make the game more accessible i think. It doesnt feel like space in EVE, it feels like some shiny glistening place full of people and industry linked by strange doorways. A starsystem is more like a room than a starsystem. In terms of real genuine freedom - eve probably gives you alot more options than elite, but it just doesnt feel as free to me. Mind you all the bugs after RMR certainly gave me some ELite Frontier First Encounters NOstaligia Anyway my intention here is not to bash EVE as it is a good game and a different game to Elite. Its a game i enjoy very much, but i have to admit my yearning for an Elite replacement has never been filled, and probably never will. I just dont get that feeling of exploring an endless void with eve like you did in elite, it doesnt feel liek real space :D
Nashime	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P Man, I loved Tradewars :) I played that for years on several BBS's 01100110 01101110 01101111 01110010 01100100
Lori Carlyle	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 - [42] Elite was better. less bugs, but eve is more open and more diverse. I'd pick eve over Elite but i'd kill some of the chars on here first.. givin the power. ================================================== I hate forums so much. 90% sig pictures, 10% content.
Leandro Salazar	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:32:00 - [43] Ohhh Elite... All things considered, prolly the game that influenced me most of all. It is not coincidence that I go by the name of Krait in most of my other online games. Funny enough I parted with that one in EVE in favor of a made up real name, despite EVE being the closest to Elite I ever played. I still fire up elite in an amiga emulator every once in a while for that nostalgic feeling. And I really wish people who played the Frontier games wouldn't refer to them as 'the' Elite too... They just weren't. Fun to play, but even EVE feels more Eliteish to me than the Frontiers ever did, which is why I was rather disappointed with them (though that didn't save me from countless hours of playing them anyway)
Toqua	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Sarqindi Originally by: Iacon the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people That's why you never went back to Lave, and instead took the Diso <-> Leesti route instead. But yeah, Eve is the game I dreamt on when I played Elite all night long back in the 80s. Yes. never OWNED a C64, I only repaired them... Started 'testing' in office at 4am in the morning... until 9am, worked until 5pm, 'tested' some more until 9am... And yes, I can fully agree with the dreams... :-) T.
Weirda	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Maya Rkell Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P if you are talking about tradewars 2000 (turn base bbs thingy), then 4tw! found a bunch of sheet of 'maps' had made way back when... __ Weirda Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More! The pumps don't work...
Kane Jacobs	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:40:00 - [46] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon Share !!! _______________________________________________
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:48:00 - [47] EVE is Elite Online. 'nuff said. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Lifewire	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:52:00 - [48] Hi there! There is only one small difference to elite: you need 5 corpmates that put -9 warpscramblestrenght and dual or tripple web onto a target. Once you have these corpmates it¦s like elite Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
guigiug	Posted - 2006.01.31 22:13:00 - [49] wow the good old days of elite , that was a kewl game in its day i hated that red plastic thing to get the security code to enter the game though

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