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Malakhan	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:08:00 - [1] Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :)
Malakhan	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:08:00 - [2] Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :)
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:14:00 - [3] welcome to the game please don't become a miner maggot for the should have won
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:14:00 - [4] welcome to the game please don't become a miner maggot for the should have won
Aeon Yakati	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:18:00 - [5] I'd agree with you, if: - you could land on planets, fly through the atmosphere, land anywhere basically - you could manually dock at stations - you could work up your rank and reputations (Kali) - EVE had Wagner or Strauss - EVE had realistic physics (but I guess time's an issue here :P) - EVE had not quite so bright fluffy happy blue space But I guess EVE is okay enough to keep me playing for 3 years already
Aeon Yakati	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:18:00 - [6] I'd agree with you, if: - you could land on planets, fly through the atmosphere, land anEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:21:00 - [7] Welcome to the EVE Community Malakhan! We've got some exciting new content coming with the Kali patch, and some other interesting things in testing. You can read about it here, below the patch notes, in testing, in development etc... Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| What REALLY goes on behind the scenes Member of the official Eris Discordia Fanclub ~~Jacques_Archambault:Kan ik jou naam en adres hebben, alstublieft? =PPPPP~~ English plzkthx. -Kaemonn Stop playing with your sigs and get back to work!! - Wrangler lol Pwnt - Imaran Eshtir was here

Uggster	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:22:00 - [8] Yeah welcome. And sod the RL physics nonsense....
britishfish	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:22:00 - [9] Thargoids FTW man them were the good old days
mrg29	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Jacques Archambault Welcome to the EVE Community Malakhan! We've got some exciting new content coming with the Kali patch, and some other interesting things in testing. You can read about it here, below the patch notes, in testing, in development etc... Jacques' hmmm i might be risking the wrath of the mods but all the "in testing", in development" and "drawingboard" are showing no content atm so might not be best idea to link it for a new player just now. -
Spike Larosse	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:34:00 - [11] Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Hehe, thats exactly how I got hooked. A friend tried the game out, and said "It's a lot like an updated Elite II online". I was like "wtfomg gimmie!". And here ever since. ------------------------------------------- Raw Materials Division Chief Executive RSP Enterprises now Recruiting
Iacon	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:53:00 - [12] The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon Forum Rules [email protected]
Gretchen Dawntreader	Posted - 2006.01.28 11:59:00 - [13] No. Way. A compatible version of Elite? Me want!!! I loved that game and seeing EVE as a mmog version of Elite is one of the reasons I decided to try it...now I'm 6 months in and loving it. Don't have to barrel-roll to hit the docking opening though...
HeShe	Posted - 2006.01.28 12:09:00 - [14] I think that I know the version that Iacon is talking about. It was called 'A New Kind' to avoid the copyright issues. I think it was removed from the net, but you could always get it from here :D I expect a get out of gank free card for this SheHe HeShe, what's the difference ?
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2006.01.28 12:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Jacques Archambault We've got some exciting new content coming with the Kali patch, and some other interesting things in testing. You can read about it here, below the patch notes, in testing, in development etc... Jacques' However, most of those say "No Content ... Yet" atm.
Sarqindi	Posted - 2006.01.28 13:35:00 - [16] Originally by: Iacon the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people That's why you never went back to Lave, and instead took the Diso <-> Leesti route instead. But yeah, Eve is the game I dreamt on when I played Elite all night long back in the 80s.
Bl4zer	Posted - 2006.01.28 13:36:00 - [17] When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. Save the Ubar asteroids
Asphyxia Mortella	Posted - 2006.01.28 13:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon /signed yea im a bbc micro vet too hehe, and in my oppinion the bbc version was the best. 32k computers 4tw!
mrg29	Posted - 2006.01.28 13:51:00 - [19] Edited by: mrg29 on 28/01/2006 13:53:11 Originally by: Bl4zer When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. i get annoyed to a degree when i read posts like this. this is a game not reality. the game dynamics require finite limits as the mathematics which support all the combat and interaction between ships are dependent on these. make the game more "real" and it stops being a game. and btw i am an ex-elite player and frontier and in almost all aspects EVE has more depth and more attention to detail than either of those imho. -
Sen Ti	Posted - 2006.01.28 14:09:00 - [20] Frontier Elite II on the Atari was my favorite game. It never occured to me to compare it to EVE, but my only character is a trader. Frontier Elite II: That's why I play EVE. Beowulf Free Traders Support and camaraderie for the trader profession.
Aeon Yakati	Posted - 2006.01.28 15:22:00 - [21] Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 28/01/2006 15:23:42 Originally by: mrg29 Edited by: mrg29 on 28/01/2006 13:53:11 Originally by: Bl4zer When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. i get annoyed to a degree when i read posts like this. this is a game not reality. So I guess you wouldn't mind your projectile guns to be shooting pink bubblegum or raspberry jam either, would you Quote: make the game more "real" and it stops being a game. Okay, so we got mass, inertia, thrust and all the other neat things we happen to have in real life too, and you're perfectly fine with slow turning at high speed, or good tracking at big distances, but when someone suggests to connect all the dots to complete the whole picture, you're suddenly like OH NOES ITS NOT A GAME ANYMORE!!!! I think you have some issues there to work out. EVE will always be a game, even with Newton's third law (unless ofcourse it becomes so real to you, you ducttape your windows to prevent air from leaking out..)
Nanus Parkite	Posted - 2006.01.28 15:47:00 - [22] Lets go real life physics where it takes 2 hours to travel 15km to the gate in a BS. Where the biggest lasers are just a bright light at 100km. Where you're damn lucky to hit anything over 5km away. Where none of the communication systems actually work. Where you have to refuel your ship every 5 jumps. I don't know about you but I'm quite happy with the abstractions. EVE Online should not be Microsoft Space Simulator.
mrg29	Posted - 2006.01.28 16:05:00 - [23] Originally by: Aeon Yakati Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 28/01/2006 15:36:14 Originally by: mrg29 Edited by: mrg29 on 28/01/2006 13:53:11 Originally by: Bl4zer When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. i get annoyed to a degree when i read posts like this. this is a game not reality. So I guess you wouldn't mind your projectile guns to be shooting pink bubblegum or raspberry jam either, would you Quote: make the game more "real" and it stops being a game. Okay, so we got mass, inertia, thrust and all the other neat things we happen to have in real life too, and you're perfectly fine with slow turning at high speed, or good tracking at big distances, but when someone suggests to connect some more dots (no one said all the dots, i.e. subwarp physics only), you're suddenly like OH NOES ITS NOT A GAME ANYMORE!!!!11 I think you have some issues there to work out. EVE will always be a game, even with Newton's third law (unless ofcourse it becomes so real to you, you ducttape your windows to prevent air from leaking out..) i haven't got any issues to work out. the point i was trying to make is the "reality" aspect i was originally commenting on has been implemented in the way it has to make the game mechanics work and whether thats out of line with reality then so be it coz it makes the game work. yes there are alot of aspects and terminology in the game that are based on real life things, that helps people comfort levels as they can relate to it easier but if u actually read and understood the context of my comments u would understand that the point i was making was the number one priority is making the game playable. if that means "reality" or the laws of physics have to be ignored then so be it. -
TauTut	Posted - 2006.01.28 17:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon Diso ---> Lave runs .. lmao - gotta love it. I only had an Acorn Electron however .. not much oomph there. -TT
Salusa VC	Posted - 2006.01.28 17:17:00 - [25] Originally by: Aeon Yakati So I guess you wouldn't mind your projectile guns to be shooting pink bubblegum or raspberry jam either, would you [:p quote] As opposed to snowballs?
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.28 17:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
Caleb Paine	Posted - 2006.01.28 18:55:00 - [27] So many times I docked at Leesti... Oh and CCP PLEASE give us a nice docking music! ----------------- Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.
Lily Savage	Posted - 2006.01.28 19:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Gretchen Dawntreader No. Way. A compatible version of Elite? Me want!!! Have a poke round www.frontier.co.uk and www.eliteclub.co.uk
DaHeaVYFo	Posted - 2006.01.28 20:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Jacques Archambault Member of the official Eris Discordia Fanclub Jacques_Archambault:Kan ik jou naam en adres hebben, alstublieft? =PPPPP English plzkthx. -Kaemonn Stop playing with your sigs and get back to work!! - Wrangler lol Pwnt YARRRR!! - Imaran Eshtir was here LOL Jacques. ---------- Just Heavy.
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2006.01.28 20:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard welcome to the game please don't become a miner Yes please...
Pistonbroke	Posted - 2006.01.31 13:30:00 - [31] played Elite on BBC B, then Spectrum, then C64. then life went dull for a decade and a half....... I tried the armed forces, tried motorsports, started a family....... Then i found Elite II (Eve Online) Now if you could just pull a reverse spiral loop and keep your beams on the enemy ship for the full maneuver like in Elite............
Vendris Saral	Posted - 2006.01.31 13:39:00 - [32] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P Tradewars! wipes a tear from his eye Aaah, Good times.
Dahin	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:47:00 - [33] scratch one less on for RL...
LDMcFear	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:49:00 - [34] Originally by: mrg29 Originally by: Aeon Yakati Edited by: Aeon Yakati on 28/01/2006 15:36:14 Originally by: mrg29 Edited by: mrg29 on 28/01/2006 13:53:11 Originally by: Bl4zer When people ask me why I play Eve, I tell them that it is because Elite Online is not available. I love Eve and think it is a great game. But lets face it the physics are not very realistic. Ships with max speed, are we flying through fluidic space?The realism and attention was one of the things I loved about Elite. i get annoyed to a degree when i read posts like this. this is a game not reality. So I guess you wouldn't mind your projectile guns to be shooting pink bubblegum or raspberry jam either, would you Quote: make the game more "real" and it stops being a game. Okay, so we got mass, inertia, thrust and all the other neat things we happen to have in real life too, and you're perfectly fine with slow turning at high speed, or good tracking at big distances, but when someone suggests to connect some more dots (no one said all the dots, i.e. subwarp physics only), you're suddenly like OH NOES ITS NOT A GAME ANYMORE!!!!11 I think you have some issues there to work out. EVE will always be a game, even with Newton's third law (unless ofcourse it becomes so real to you, you ducttape your windows to prevent air from leaking out..) i haven't got any issues to work out. the point i was trying to make is the "reality" aspect i was originally commenting on has been implemented in the way it has to make the game mechanics work and whether thats out of line with reality then so be it coz it makes the game work. yes there are alot of aspects and terminology in the game that are based on real life things, that helps people comfort levels as they can relate to it easier but if u actually read and understood the context of my comments u would understand that the point i was making was the number one priority is making the game playable. if that means "reality" or the laws of physics have to be ignored then so be it. Exactly this game is Science Fiction. The Laws of physics can be bent, kicked, distorted, and manipulated so the game works its awesome.
Kim Chee	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:05:00 - [35] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) I played (well, obsessed might be a better word) Elite on the C64. The good old days, when computers just worked. :) I also played it on the Amiga, but even with filled (!) polygons, it was a tad fast. Originally by: Iacon I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's Nice. Is it a freeware one? I remember finding one a while back, but it still ran too fast to be really playable. Heh, maybe rewrite it in java. grin Oh, and to the fellow who was complaining about wanting RL physics.... Elite used a personal time accelerator -- which if you think about it, is mostly the same thing as a warp drive. If you want RL physics, get a copy of Independance War 2. Full newtonian physics and all the pain that comes with it. The aborted project for a Babylon 5 game is floating around out there too. *Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon*: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
Hawk Firestorm	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:19:00 - [36] Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Yes you'll feel right at home it's got just as many bugs too. hehe
Chinsor	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:23:00 - [37] eves nuthin compared to elite 2, im just playing this until they improve elite 2's graphics ---------------------------------------------
Adago Vilon	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:45:00 - [38] Elite-esque manual aiming (only for pulse and beam lasers)4TW!!
Kazender	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon please please please please please send me that game! I want C++ version of elite ... i would give you my emal address but i'm not stupid enough to post it on a public forum
Nev Clavain	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:04:00 - [40] In my opinion Elite in all its incarnations is and always will be better than EVE. You can play EVE a bit like Elite, but really its something a bit different. I loved Elite for the escapism of it all, it actually left me feeling like a space trader. EVE doesnt do that, its not subtle enough in my opinion: the graphics are rammed down your throat, and your actual movement in space is limited in the most rediculously unrealistic ways, just to make the game more accessible i think. It doesnt feel like space in EVE, it feels like some shiny glistening place full of people and industry linked by strange doorways. A starsystem is more like a room than a starsystem. In terms of real genuine freedom - eve probably gives you alot more options than elite, but it just doesnt feel as free to me. Mind you all the bugs after RMR certainly gave me some ELite Frontier First Encounters NOstaligia Anyway my intention here is not to bash EVE as it is a good game and a different game to Elite. Its a game i enjoy very much, but i have to admit my yearning for an Elite replacement has never been filled, and probably never will. I just dont get that feeling of exploring an endless void with eve like you did in elite, it doesnt feel liek real space :D
Nashime	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 - [41] Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Malakhan Heh, and something I've wanted for a long time. Just started playing EVE, and have to say it's almost like the good old days with Frontier: Elite II on my Amiga :) Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P Man, I loved Tradewars :) I played that for years on several BBS's 01100110 01101110 01101111 01110010 01100100
Lori Carlyle	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:30:00 - [42] Elite was better. less bugs, but eve is more open and more diverse. I'd pick eve over Elite but i'd kill some of the chars on here first.. givin the power. ================================================== I hate forums so much. 90% sig pictures, 10% content.
Leandro Salazar	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:32:00 - [43] Ohhh Elite... All things considered, prolly the game that influenced me most of all. It is not coincidence that I go by the name of Krait in most of my other online games. Funny enough I parted with that one in EVE in favor of a made up real name, despite EVE being the closest to Elite I ever played. I still fire up elite in an amiga emulator every once in a while for that nostalgic feeling. And I really wish people who played the Frontier games wouldn't refer to them as 'the' Elite too... They just weren't. Fun to play, but even EVE feels more Eliteish to me than the Frontiers ever did, which is why I was rather disappointed with them (though that didn't save me from countless hours of playing them anyway)
Toqua	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:35:00 - [44] Originally by: Sarqindi Originally by: Iacon the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people That's why you never went back to Lave, and instead took the Diso <-> Leesti route instead. But yeah, Eve is the game I dreamt on when I played Elite all night long back in the 80s. Yes. never OWNED a C64, I only repaired them... Started 'testing' in office at 4am in the morning... until 9am, worked until 5pm, 'tested' some more until 9am... And yes, I can fully agree with the dreams... :-) T.
Weirda	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Maya Rkell Elite? Not really. More like a 3d real-time Tradewars :P if you are talking about tradewars 2000 (turn base bbs thingy), then 4tw! found a bunch of sheet of 'maps' had made way back when... __ Weirda Assault Ship need 4th Bonus and More! The pumps don't work...
Kane Jacobs	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:40:00 - [46] Originally by: Iacon The way that I explain EvE to ex Elite players and I mean Elite not that 2 ....'games'....that followed (yep, BBC micro vet here :D ) is imagine an Elite where that ship you just killed was another player, the pirates that kill you on the Dico <> Lave run are real people and the goods in your cargo hold were made by another player !!! I still play Elite now and then using a version that was made in C++ for todays PC's -Iacon Share !!! _______________________________________________
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:48:00 - [47] EVE is Elite Online. 'nuff said. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Lifewire	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:52:00 - [48] Hi there! There is only one small difference to elite: you need 5 corpmates that put -9 warpscramblestrenght and dual or tripple web onto a target. Once you have these corpmates it¦s like elite Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
guigiug	Posted - 2006.01.31 22:13:00 - [49] wow the good old days of elite , that was a kewl game in its day i hated that red plastic thing to get the security code to enter the game though

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