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Eleonore Nutcracker
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Posted - 2006.01.29 05:17:00 -
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training time is expensive in EVE so I was wishing some of you could give me some advice or explanations about EW, or a link to something that does... I'm thinking of having myself trained in it, but I'd like to know how efficient each thing is and what they really do (ECM, ECCM bursts, gravimetric sensors... that's all chinese to me...)
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.01.29 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ras Blumin on 29/01/2006 09:39:38 You got jammers, tracking disruptors, sensor dampeners and target painters.
All the stuff you mentioned are related to jamming.
ECM (Electronic Counter Measures) is the jammers themselves. There's multispec's that works equally well against all races, and racial jammers.
I think it's caldari who use gravimetric sensors, so if you know you're up against a caldari (or gurista ship), you'll want to use a gravimetric jammer (can't remember the exact name). Each race's ships use their own kind of "sensor system". You can find out which kind of sensors a ship have by doing a show info on it (attributes).
Jammers are chance based. The formula is "Jam Strength / Target sensor strength", so if you try to jam a Scorpion with a t1 gravimetric jammer wihtout any boni you'd have;
6/24 = 0,25 = 25% chance of jamming pr cycle.
ECM bursts tries to jam everything within range. They're kinda a "Plan B!" module. Not used that much. I think you'd get killed by concord pretty easily if you use these in highsec.
ECCM (Electronic Counter Counter Measures) makes you harder to jam.
Trackin disruptors mess up the tracking and optimal of your opponent's guns. They're kinda broken in pvp atm cause of the new stacking penalty. Basicly, if your opponent use 2 or more mods which affect tracking/optimals, he won't be tracking disrupted much.
Sensor dampeners decrease the locking range and increases the locking time of the ship your using it against. These are also kinda broken like tracking disruptors.
Target painters increases the signature radius of the ship you use it on. This will make it easier to hit and your friends can lock it faster.
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John Torakiba
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Posted - 2006.01.29 14:40:00 -
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ECM Burst can be used in High sec, just make sure you are out of range of any Concord ships or PC's that haven't attacked you first.
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Eleonore Nutcracker
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Posted - 2006.01.29 15:17:00 -
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ok thanks that's nice, now all I have to do is train for these things and test them 
If anybody has additionnal personnal advice and feelings about these stuff, don't hesitate 
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:54:00 -
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Just ignore ecm bursts, they are not worth the trouble. I can think if maybe 1 or 2 specific situations where one might be useful but even there other mods would probably do better.
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Stelarr
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:48:00 -
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Would ecm burst work on player drones? Seeing how most drones need to be within range of ecm burst to attack, would an ecn burst shut all the drones down?
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Stelarr Would ecm burst work on player drones? Seeing how most drones need to be within range of ecm burst to attack, would an ecn burst shut all the drones down?
Possibly for a short time but the big difference between bursts and normal ecm is that they only break lock but don't stop the target from relocking again right away.
The only thing they are useful for is breaking the lock of a tackler using a short range warp scrambler on you. But even in that situation it's not so good as it might sound. You will do much better just ignoring them totaly and focusing on normal jammers.
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Max Hardcase
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Posted - 2006.01.29 20:12:00 -
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Are the strengths of all your modules active on one target added together or do they each have a chance to jam it ?
Do the EW drones follow the same rules ?
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Hoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.29 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hardcase Are the strengths of all your modules active on one target added together or do they each have a chance to jam it ?
Do the EW drones follow the same rules ?
Each has a seperate chance. The drones work just like normal jammers.
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