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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.19 02:50:00 -
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Fair bit of luck there, depending on the time of day you can wander through deklein trying to scan down a 6/10 8/10 10/10 and find absolutely nothing. At one point I had an eveguy (Since sold) that had near perfect scanning skills and generally whenever I did get a plex I'd find someone else inside already running it. We actually had a guy do the math at one point and running an Ishtar with 20m ticks was actually better isk than running complexes.
Not to mention that if you want to make actually decent isk per hour without sharing it out you have to multibox the 10/10's which is frankly ridiculous. Fold this into the fact that new players when joining a space empire are generally encouraged to train the ships which defend those empires first and foremost and you have a large(ish) playerbase of generally low to middling SP characters who can do fine in a ratting site, but would get their asses bitten off by the "Big money plex's" that you talk about.
We won't even get into all of the upgrades that have to go into any system in order to turn it into a moneymaker (Hint: We dump a lot of isk into sov upgrades just to allow a group of our size to rat without bumping into eachothers ships every five seconds... and it still happens). |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:24:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I imagine of course, that taking it from the mouths of the people who actually live there is unacceptable to the OP.
Nonetheless, this is the truth. With the same number of ships and people that you would use to run a DED site, scout for you, and logistics, you can make more just picking the right highsec corp and running 4s.
It can be lucrative to run a plex team, but in a group that actually lives in the space (Like ours) it's generally faster easier and better money to rent out your plex running services. But there is an upper level cap to how many people can do that before the isk simply runs dry.
The best bang for my buck was one major expansion back, when I could rat with a Vindicator and run about 150M an hour, but this was also a hell of a lot more "Active" than most L4's that I've seen when it comes to how much work I had to do to make it go. This is largely broken now, and I'm back to about 60m/hour on average.
I'm not saying this is bad money; it isn't. It's just not great money once you factor in all the costs to the alliance to make it happen (Ratting taxes don't even begin to pay for the sov/sov upgrades from my understanding).
The most enjoyable isk I ever made was probably Gooncursions (In the early days of incursions it was always Goonswarm and TEST alliance running the lowsec incursions together) which when we were optimal made about 100m/h +LP. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2118
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Posted - 2013.11.19 03:25:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:You do realise that Goonspace is half the map? Regardless of that theres a trick you can use to get a WH straight to the any region you like whenvever you like. Don't have to worry about randomness of WH at all. Last night - LootI LOVE doing the impossible. Keep thinking its impossible.
There's a nullsec political reality that you aren't thinking about. And that's ratting rights. |
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