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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 16:59:00 -
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Loot drones
warp jammer drones
PG reduction implants on launcher and guns
skill to reduce reload time on guns, lanchers
adaptive active hardener
a working missile counter measures to say defender read Linkage
i want to know
Stop worring about the .000000% of us who fly titans/mothership and fill the holes and exploits in this game
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Loot drones
warp jammer drones
PG reduction implants on launcher and guns
skill to reduce reload time on guns, lanchers
adaptive active hardener
I don't recall any of this ever having been on the In Development page or even a planned feature.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Loot drones
warp jammer drones
PG reduction implants on launcher and guns
skill to reduce reload time on guns, lanchers
adaptive active hardener
I don't recall any of this ever having been on the In Development page or even a planned feature.
i no thats the problem
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:25:00 -
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No, it's YOUR problem.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
No, it's YOUR problem.
Ok im sry i forgot it is my problem when a raven at 5km has an unstopable attack, because of lack off working missile counters measures, but a nuetron cannon can easily miss the side of a barn with a tracking disruptor
Originally by: Asurix
on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster
i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking
or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods
and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener.
what do you want me to do get a raven? Leave my blasterthorn for a railthron and have 3 rockets full of defenders, so i can pray i can take down some torps?
pls forgive me it is my problem
How can i fix my problem? then maya
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Asurix
on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster
i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking
or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods
and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener.
Originally by: Funshine Bear
In my megathron, i happily tank 20 gankageddons without even touching my civilian amor repairer
LOOK TEH MEGA IS TEH OVERPOWERED! TEH KWOTE PR0V3Z0RZ!!!!!!!!11111oneonehundredandevelentyonnelololololoneoneone!
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Makhan
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:05:00 -
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Lets not forget the:
System wide asteroid belts,
Gas mining,
Comet mining,
Other than that though they are doing ok, but they are focusing a little hard on creating goals.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Asurix
on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster
i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking
or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods
and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener.
Originally by: Funshine Bear
In my megathron, i happily tank 20 gankageddons without even touching my civilian amor repairer
LOOK TEH MEGA IS TEH OVERPOWERED! TEH KWOTE PR0V3Z0RZ!!!!!!!!11111oneonehundredandevelentyonnelololololoneoneone!
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thats bull**** even a moros would have to repair
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KompleX
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:15:00 -
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You don't say...
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Facechanger2
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:19:00 -
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Meeko you're an idiot. You've been spamming all day long with the same crap and yet you don't listen. People explained to you why theres no adaptive armour hardeners, and also told you about the missile counters - you haven't even tried defender missiles yet and you impy they're broken. GO TEST FOR YOURSELF.
On a lighter note - I've heard of them considering loot drones, but not warp jamming drones. They would be far too overpowered.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 29/01/2006 18:21:01
There is nothing wrong with the Raven. It's balanced fine.
Heavy blasters are somewhat underpowered, yes.
The prescision cruise and torps are uber, yes.
This does not mean the Raven is overpowered.
Loot drones are a technical problem, so they've given us tractor beams instead.
Warp scrambling drones are not in the game because they would be too powerful under the present scrambling system.
Reload reducing skill? No, just increase cap sizes on artillary, there's no need to upset balance for hybrids or autocannon.
Adaptive active hardener? Armour and shield tanking work differently. Learn the differences.
Implants? Yea, got a point there. *shrugs*
Oh and Facechanger2? Defenders = broken. Allways have been.
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Meeko Gloom on 29/01/2006 18:34:34
Originally by: Facechanger2
Meeko you're an idiot. You've been spamming all day long with the same crap and yet you don't listen. People explained to you why theres no adaptive armour hardeners, and also told you about the missile counters - you haven't even tried defender missiles yet and you impy they're broken. GO TEST FOR YOURSELF.
On a lighter note - I've heard of them considering loot drones, but not warp jamming drones. They would be far too overpowered.
Yea they work just fine if your 50km+ but you go test under 10km, I will see the results when you go home in an egg. Also what do you tell to the geddon, domi, punshier, incursus, vexor, maller, rax etc pilots about countering missiles? I would like to see the caldria not being able to fit tracking disurptors hehe it would never happen
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Asurix
on a raven i have 2 t2 invul fields and a kenetic hardener, then shield boost amp and xl booster
i never touch the booster on 2x 1.4mil rats, it's unbalanced, shield tanking >>>> armor tanking
or its my problem that a raven can tank with 3 hardeners easily, and keep all his low slots for cap and damage mods
and armour tank have to use all there low to balance out resistances cuz we dont have a balanced hardener.
Originally by: Funshine Bear
In my megathron, i happily tank 20 gankageddons without even touching my civilian amor repairer
LOOK TEH MEGA IS TEH OVERPOWERED! TEH KWOTE PR0V3Z0RZ!!!!!!!!11111oneonehundredandevelentyonnelololololoneoneone!
thats bull**** even a moros would have to repair
i am fully aware of that 
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 29/01/2006 18:21:01
There is nothing wrong with the Raven. It's balanced fine.
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This does not mean the Raven is overpowered.
Oh this is wonderful! Thank you for making me laugh out loud Maya. Other comedians charge a fee for that, you do it all for free
elfen > read the forums they will tell u the truth |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Captain IceEye
Originally by: Maya Rkell
Edited by: Maya Rkell on 29/01/2006 18:21:01
There is nothing wrong with the Raven. It's balanced fine.
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This does not mean the Raven is overpowered.
Oh this is wonderful! Thank you for making me laugh out loud Maya. Other comedians charge a fee for that, you do it all for free
You need to learn about cause and effect.
Just because the Raven vs Blasterthron tends to end one way, dosn't mean that there's anything wrong with the Raven. The problem JUST MIGHT BE the Megathron. Or its guns.
Just because the Raven with T2 amo is overpowered, while with T1 amo it's fine, JUST MIGHT MEAN that T2 amo is broken.
Or you might be a troll. I go for all three!
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:43:00 -
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im never said anything was wrong with ammo, there is no working solution to counter in thats all. when have i ever talked about ammo?
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Chuck Noriss
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:46:00 -
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Well, if you want those things I want:
A pizza drone: to get me a meat lovers now and then.
A GF-Distractor drone: to relieve me of feminine annoyances.
FPS.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chuck Noriss
Well, if you want those things I want:
A pizza drone: to get me a meat lovers now and then.
A GF-Distractor drone: to relieve me of feminine annoyances.
FPS.
no RHK drone to go with your truly original name?
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 29/01/2006 18:48:07
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
im never said anything was wrong with ammo, there is no working solution to counter in thats all. when have i ever talked about ammo?
You haven't. Because you fail to realise where the real issues are.
That's your problem, not mine.
PS Chuck Noriss? Worst. Alt. Evar.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
im never said anything was wrong with ammo, there is no working solution to counter in thats all. when have i ever talked about ammo?
uh, read the quoted post. maya wasn't talking to you...
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 18:53:00 -
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also im a n00b pls explian the difference between shield and armor tank maya
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
Just because the Raven vs Blasterthron tends to end one way, dosn't mean that there's anything wrong with the Raven. The problem JUST MIGHT BE the Megathron. Or its guns.
This is a classic! If it wasnt so long I would make it my new sig quote. Your sarcasm is superb.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
also im a n00b pls explian the difference between shield and armor tank maya
i'll help. shield tanking has higher boost per second, and a recharge that is neglible on practically every ship (ferox is one it is useful on).
armor tanking on the other hand has higher efficiency, works beter with fewer slots, is easier to fit and has higher base resists.
thats ok?
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
also im a n00b pls explian the difference between shield and armor tank maya
i'll help. shield tanking has higher boost per second, and a recharge that is neglible on practically every ship (ferox is one it is useful on).
armor tanking on the other hand has higher efficiency, works beter with fewer slots, is easier to fit and has higher base resists.
thats ok?
then y if armor has high base resistances y is the raven the best tanker
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firepup82
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: firepup82 on 29/01/2006 19:17:46
Quoted wrong post...lol
You are a stupid noob you little whining sissy.....STFU and stop spamming with nonsense!
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 29/01/2006 19:25:27
Cos the Raven's NOT the best tanker? That'd be the Apoc
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
then y if armor has high base resistances y is the raven the best tanker
then y if your so clever can't you use a full complement of letters in WHY?
and why if you have no clue are you posting?
next time, before trolling a useful and informative post, please look up the resistances in game, and tell me that armor DOESN'T have higher base resists, and that the apoc isn't a better tank than the raven.
kthnxbye
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Captain IceEye
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Captain IceEye on 29/01/2006 19:31:58
*snip*
post this was meant as a reply to was changed
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Meeko Gloom
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Xeios
Originally by: Meeko Gloom
Originally by: Jon Xylur
There is no adaptive hardener cause thatwould make armour tankers tank better, which would amke all the Caldari whien that something actually has a change of tanking the allmighty Raven. And since half of the playerbase is Caldari, CCP has to give them all the best stuff.
good point i forgot about how much the Caldari whine their asses off, missile nerf this, gallente carrier that.
Want some cheese with that?
You cannot base your argument on the basis that every ****** and his dog are exploiting with cpr's. This will be resolved and when it is things will go back to how they should be. That is why u do not get invul hardeners.
well my argument is that a raven can have 3 invul on have great resistances, but on my mega i have to load all my lows by the way takes away from cap and damage mods to have a decent tank, while the raven can still has his low for his dam mods and cap etc.
also i have to have 800 charges to keep my tank correct, then i have a blastertron so i have to fight close, not metion im figthing a raven, and cuz hes using missiles i have no what to counter it correct? (dont anyone ******* say defenders).
Even if i did have a new working way to counter missiles i couldnt use it cuz my cap booster is taking my last mid slot because i have to have use all my low to cover every type of resistances, cuz a raven can pick his damage and cuz i have no adaptive actice hardener
So i dont no what to do? dont fight ravens
and y is typing y such a big deal to you u flamed me on that like 2-3 months ago???
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.01.29 19:45:00 -
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Yes, this is a known issue.
The consensus is that large blasters are underpowered.
The Raven's fine.
(PS, with the armour reistance skills the energised nano membrane II is considerably BETTER than the invulnrability field, since it dosn't drain energy)
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