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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:49:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over.
Cant raffle characters anymore.
Good plan though! |
DarkDecay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 20:58:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:DarkDecay wrote:DNSBLACK wrote:3. I will also would like to offer my character to raffle. We will follow all CCP rules for transfer once the raffle is over. Cant raffle characters anymore. Good plan though! he isn't raffling his character he's raffling tickets to a chance at winning his character
You mean...
...he is using the Chewbacca, er, Somer defence?
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DarkDecay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:13:00 -
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ngaly wrote:IGÇÖm really hoping more people will do what you are doing. If enough people do it CCP will be forced to acknowledge that they actually tolerated RMT for more than a year already. Eventually they will have to start preventing lottery websites from using this GÇ£trickGÇ¥.
I will be doing it too if CCP ever tell me how to get it started.
Real world laws will mean it wont be a scam... |
DarkDecay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 08:56:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Yeah one problem with your 'game'. Markee Dragon, to whom you're obviously referring, isn't a wholesale GTC seller. He's a reseller and he buys his GTC's at a wholesale company (not a lot of which exist as far as I know).
But yeah, should be legal. If SOMER can do it so should everyone else. Will be fun seeing CCP's reaction if more of these things start popping up all over the place :D The follow on from that is, does it have to involve GTC and CCP making a profit for it to be legit. For example can I sell you a pen for say $10.00USD + P&H (Specially engraved pen, it has the words BIC on the side of it) and give you 1.2 billion pen credits to spend on lotteries on a web site. Now on this website you can of course bid on other pens +p&h or if you choose you can take all of the pen lottery slots in a lottery and spend the 1.2 billion pen credits and convert that to isk-20%. So you receive 1 billion isk and a pen. 
If you read the posts by one of the resellers, EVE-GAMES in the main thread, this would not be allowed as he thinks the separation of referrer and seller is why it does not break the EULA. The logic seems to be YOU are selling the stuff for isk so the EULA is broken.
What you need to do is make a break in the isk-stuff chain: you offer the ISK to anyone who buys X from another site then you are not trading isk for item directly. So isk-intermediary-stuff is legally ok. |
DarkDecay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:03:00 -
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Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself.
CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK!
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DarkDecay
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 09:37:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:DarkDecay wrote:Dont want the list, want to know how to get on the gravy train list itself. CCP, tell us how we can join the list to max out our profit on our in-game ISK! You need that list dumbass otherwise you can't do squat.. Its very simple. First thing is you have to do is contact the sites on that list and see if they run a referral program. Then create a Eve Lottery Site with links to those sites which you have signed up to their referral program. Give free lottery tickets to anybody who purchases GTC's via your links. Job Done.
Would appear you are the dumbass here.
To maximise the profit you need to get on that list. With my in game assets I can give 200mil per gtc to about 11k buyers. This will make me around $33,000 (based on $3 per gtc sold).
By becoming a reseller and not just a user, I can offer deals to other people. This means that I can offer deals to some smaller customers to convert their ISK to $ with a small cut of the ISK for me: say 100 million to me and 200 million to the customer for $3.
This will allow me to make a lot more $ than I would by simply using someone on the list, dumbass. |
DarkDecay
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:40:00 -
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DNSBLACK wrote:1. Net gain $2475.00.
Is this RMT? Almost certainly.
Is it funny as ****? You are god damn right it is...
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DarkDecay
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 21:45:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:... I wonder what Frying doom is worth?
I think quite a lot of people are wondering what their characters are worth at the moment. 
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DarkDecay
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Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.17 22:08:00 -
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Still laughing at how funny this is. |
DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.18 09:37:00 -
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Swidgen wrote:[ Wouldn't want to be him, though, when CCP voids the character transfer and the buyer comes looking for his $2500 refund.
That is what I want as to ban this they must ban somer and all the other rmt'ers. |
DarkDecay
Real money traders
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:20:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:DNSBlack, you magnificent, magnificent bastard.
DNSBlack, you magnificent, magnificent bastard. |
DarkDecay
Real money traders
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:27:00 -
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Xander Phoena wrote:So Somer is exchanging $$ for Somer credits without being a reseller. DNSBlack has exchanged $$ for Black credits without being a reseller. I've got that all right, yes?
He did the same as me and used an official reseller to get the buyer his GTC.
We both used the somer defence of raffle and made up currency.
Where we differed was that he never seemed to ask for a massive $2500 for his GTC's and someone just offered it, while I set an actual price for the GTC of $105 instead of $35 that people could accept for a 'free' plex pack.
This could be the key point?
(will be posting something similar in main thread too)
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DarkDecay
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Posted - 2013.10.19 21:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Moira Ayindi wrote:Shai 'Hulud wrote:Another example of CCP favoritism towards SOMER.
So let's recap:
- SOMER was gifted a total of around 5 trillion ISK worth of in-game items.
- SOMER is being allowed to continue RMT that I and others have been told we cannot do.
- SOMER's legitimacy as a fair business operation has been personally guaranteed by CCP.
It is becoming clear that a different set of rules apply to SOMER than those that are applied to the rest of us.
Do we even need to wonder why CCP chose to give SOMER so much free stuff and proclaim them to be the greatest thing in EVE? Here's the data I want to see: affiliate sales numbers for the last year. I suspect CCP has very good reason to like SOMER so much.
Only SOMER is allowed to inhabit the gray area. And why not? Effort should be rewarded. Somer is the 1%  So for profit businesses that CCP choose should be allowed to break the rules but no one else is allowed too or do you believe that any one who makes an effort sgould be allowed to RMT? If CCP wants to say clearly that Somer is allowed to RMT because it made an effort, I am sure the players would rightfully laugh in their face and unsub.
It seems it is more along the lines of it is ok for somer plus their other rmt partner to turn one billion ISK into $15 to $24 as long as CCP makes eleven times as much form it. |
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