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PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:45:00 -
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ngaly wrote:IGÇÖm really hoping more people will do what you are doing. If enough people do it CCP will be forced to acknowledge that they actually tolerated RMT for more than a year already. Eventually they will have to start preventing lottery websites from using this GÇ£trickGÇ¥.
The thing is CCP gets a direct cut from this type of RMT, and so it's "ok."
For those that don't understand, here's the actual transaction:
(A) Vendor acquires GTC's in bulk from CCP at a reduced rate --> CCP gets $$
(B) Players Purchase 1000 GTC's from Vendor at a markup --> Vendor gets $$
(C) Individual offers character for raffle from vendor --> Individual gets a cut of Vendor's $$
(D) Players acquire GTC's
(E) Players also get a chance to win individual's character.
(A) --> (B) --> (D) is the standard GTC retail process, and has been available for over a decade (I think).
Item (C) is where the RMT happens when 'Individual' gets paid by vendor in $$ for in game assets (the definition of RMT).
Item (E) is the incentive for Item (C) to work.
TBH I could see this working for players wanting to make real $$ off high value items such as supers, titans, and various unique ships. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.16 22:59:00 -
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It'll be interesting to see whether this will actually work. Could be witnessing the birth of "legit" RMT.  |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:23:00 -
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So, If GTC's can't be sold for cash + Black credits, why can they be sold for cash + Blink credits.
This is very confusing... |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.18 19:33:00 -
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Dani Lizardov wrote:I personally enjoy how CCP struggle to decide who the bad kid / kids are and how to punish them. 
The problem is CCP really likes one of the bad kids (Somer) but doesn't like some of the other bad kids, like Black and Shai.
But apparently, its ok for Somer to give out ships for Somer credits, but it isn't ok for Shai to give out ships for Shai credits.
This really confuses me though... |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:40:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:
The two clearly aren't mutually exclusive as evidenced by the consistent behavior of this "community" which is nothing short of toxic and disgusting. Being a paying customer doesn't excuse or entitle boorish behavior. It entitles you to log into a video game and that's about it. Not that I expect any of that to actually make sense to any of you.
What boorish behavior is that? Somer offers in game ships for blink credits that can be acquired through purchasing GTC. That is both acceptable and encouraged by CCP.
When someone else (like Shai) does the exact same thing (ships for credits acquired by purchasing GTC), their thread gets locked, and bans are threatened.
Either the practice is legitimate and everyone can partake, or the practice is RMT and illegitimate. How exactly is this boorish? |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.18 20:59:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I'm referring to various reactions of people calling for people's jobs, threatening people's lives, wishing harm upon people's families, the usual over the top and completely unnecessary nonsense that occurs whenever anonymous videogame nerds on the internet have "their" toys moved in the slightest
TBH I haven't seen too much of that in this thread, but in general your probably right, it is a problem. But not a problem unique to Eve, or this particular topic at hand.
The way I see it, CCP has two options. Ban or otherwise punish the practice at large (and ALL those that practiced it), everyone should be held equal before the same rule set.
Or, allow this option of "cashing" out. Not that novel really. People pay plex to buy/sell characters in Eve, a tithe to CCP. Trading characters is bannable in other MMO's too. So allow this form of "cashing out" via GTC, a tithe to CCP. "Cashing out" is a forbidden practice in other MMO's as well. Someone quitting eve? Direct them to an accredited "transition agent."
Whatever CCP chooses to do, they should treat everyone equally. If Somer is allowed to do this, let all do this. If DNSBlack and Shai 'Hulud are punished for doing this, punish Somer for doing the exact same thing for years.
Equality before the same rule set. Nothing more, nothing less is all we ask. |
PotatoOverdose
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Posted - 2013.10.18 21:09:00 -
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Darius JOHNSON wrote: In the case of this OP it's just being openly gamed, which is where that crosses the line.
How is it any different then what blink did? Blink has raffled off unique ships for Blink Credits before, on many occasions. Blink credits can be acquired through purchasing GTCs from Somer via Markee. Somer makes $$ off this transaction, and the ships are given in exchange for blink credits.
Shai 'Hulud did the exact. same. thing. Ships in exchange for Shai credits acquired by purchasing GTC. It is the exact same model. If you cry foul, then establish a strict criteria and hold ALL to the same criteria. And make no mistake, Somer has made thousands of dollars off of Blink credits for GTC referrals. |
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