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Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5330	Posted - 2013.10.18 14:51:00 - [1] - Quote I heartily endorse this event or product.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5341	Posted - 2013.10.18 17:56:00 - [2] - Quote CCP Dolan wrote: Greetings, Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter. How do I become an authorized reseller? You know, so I can run a completely legitimate GTC reselling operation that happens to also award lottery tickets for fantastic isk prizes.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5344	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:07:00 - [3] - Quote Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5346	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:22:00 - [4] - Quote Ranger 1 wrote: Weaselior wrote: Also, CCP explicitly advertises GTC wholesalers: https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx This implicitly allows people to run their own GTC selling programs without official support because you're advertising wholesalers. The definition of wholesaler is that you buy from them for individual resale. Quote: please contact one of our authorized wholesalers Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition.
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5349	Posted - 2013.10.18 18:54:00 - [5] - Quote Darius JOHNSON wrote: Whether this is allowed to happen or not there's no possible interpretation of the EULA that makes this OK. HTH. Given SOMER's example, it appears CCP disagrees!
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5352	Posted - 2013.10.18 19:40:00 - [6] - Quote Theng Hofses wrote: Here is what is really at stake for CCP: If players can convert game currency into real money in any CCP-sanction way then game money has received real world value. If it has real world value, all game currency must be carried on CCP's financial statements as a liability. uh what no that would only be the case if CCP was the one who would pay you $$ for isk
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5354	Posted - 2013.10.18 20:06:00 - [7] - Quote Theng Hofses wrote: The authorized PLEX reseller is an agent of CCP. You can make the argument that by allowing the piggy backing of other in-game value they willingly enabled the fungibility. Funny enough, I found this one: http://www.pillsburylaw.com/siteFiles/Media/files/Make%20Sure%20Your%20Virtual%20Currency%20Doesn't%20Enter%20Illegal%20Gambling%20Territory(1).pdf the things you are saying make zero sense ccp has to account for things like plex on their balance sheet. that's because they've contracted to redeem plex for game time, they are basically unused gift cards. each plex in existence is a promise to provide the holder with 30d of game time and is a liability let's say ccp allows me to sell isk to you if I want and does not ban people for these sorts of transactions. does isk need to go on CCP's balance sheet? no, of course not: the amount of isk in existence is irrelevant to ccp's bottom line. i can do nothing with my isk that affects ccp's bottom line. they don't sell the isk, they don't buy the isk, nothing with isk touches ccp's bottom line now, if they allowed free exchange between isk and $$ then yeah they land in all sorts of legal issues which are bad news. I'm not suggesting they do that, RMT would be bad news. but the issues are not accounting issues. even the issues you raised before about what happens if you unsub are easily dealt with by contract (the eula).
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5363	Posted - 2013.10.19 06:13:00 - [8] - Quote Kast Agnet wrote: Something else pointing to the "Somer Caught Red Handed" idea is the LACK of Andrev Nox. Anything pertaining to Blink of a negative nature in the past has always been attacked by him usually with massive stats, vitriolic statements, Somer bans handed left right and centre and where is he now? Where are you Andrev? We all know you are the main face of Blink really and are never backwards in coming forwards usually? Stunned into silence or just "We got made! There's nothing to say."? to be fair the In-Game Events and Gatherings forum is basically the 3am timeslot of forums he may just not have noticed
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5363	Posted - 2013.10.19 06:14:00 - [9] - Quote give it three years and there's a 50% chance he will stumble on this thread

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