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Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.20 10:07:00 -
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Well i just found out that with rubicon there will be a new kind of implants that will increase warp speed.
Now coupled with an allready 12 au/s sabre " instant appearing in grid " this is weird. I mean, you could check your 14.4 au scanner but il will land in 1.1 sec.  assuming you are full speed and spamming scanner ( anyone remember scanner re-click interval? ).
BTW some pro elite ownage will come out with the " deploy cynojammer argument ".
Yeah nice idea, but i'm still obsessed by the 15+ au/s bubble immune cyno ceptor traveling 3 systems/min i pointed out in another thread. Now it will go even faster with warp implants, light cyno out of grid or even out scanner and then a sabre will land on you in 1.1 sec.
I'm a poor beggar with no super.... i've nothing to fear so i'll @ least leech some super mail with a bc/bs but i'm not sure this mechanic it's " fair or legit "  |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.10.22 07:44:00 -
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Dirk Action wrote:Alternatively, if you truly want a band aid solution and keep deceleration stupidly fast, give dictors a cooldown period where they are incapable of dropping a bubble for some period of time after dropping out of warp similar to a ship having a locking penalty after coming out of a cloak.
This guy came with 2 solid idea, an official CCP reply would be much appreciated. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:58:00 -
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@ Tuitan
The author said he couldn't see his alt's dictor LANDING on grid but just APPEARING.
If you can't see the huge issue in this... it's like having a dictor allready cloaked next to you or having covert ops dictor warping to you. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.22 18:50:00 -
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Some ppl are pointing out problems and proposing solutions.
Others just come here write some bullshit and pretend to be hilarious.
When DD was changed to single target there was a reason.
CCP realized some entity in eve could field enough titans to DD an entire dread/carrier fleet.
Now someone is warning CCP that this warp speed change (as it is right now ) might bring imbalance and fuc-k up entire gameplay.
I'm totally agree with Dirk.
This is test server feedback section, go trolling in CAOD pls. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.24 07:04:00 -
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Can someone explain to some ppl that sometimes it's not about " look 1 dude entered in system let's warp to the pos "
but it's about being in a grid fighting @ certain range and not being bubbled by a dictor appearing on u from nowhere because of bullshit warp decelleration and u can't actually call primaries and look grid position while spamming d-scan increasing lag server.
D-scan is useless for allready told delay interval but some ppl doesn't bother to read what they coment.
Of course there are some situation where u are fighting and probes are about.
Does it means if i see probes in space i can't keep my sniper gang aligned full speed cause a dictor can " decloak in front of me instead of landing??????????????? "
Is this concept so hard to explain or so hard to understand?
Are all ppl coming to this thread thinking from their ratting dominix in full blue local?
If dictor appear in grid like this say goodbye to any ranged fleet and i'm not talking about 200km snipers cause they are allready dead from probe system revamp, to fast to probe.
I'm talking about amazing job about medium ranged turrets, u can trash all that rebalance, just bring dictors and plated blasters ships, no tactics no skills. warp dictor, instant land, instant bubble. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 07:56:00 -
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CCP working 24/7 on marauder texture and " pvp 1 min siege module  "
No time for fleet engagement mechanics..... |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.25 22:05:00 -
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So to put a bit of spice and bump the thread, if RvB loves **** t1 frigs pvp all eve should love **** pvp?
lots of free to play on internet.... in the last years all i saw was a downward trend in terms of skills and ability of pvp.
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Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
17
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Posted - 2013.10.26 12:25:00 -
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Downward trend everywere, emo kids want to play it now, fast and easy.
No time to learn and read.
Look free to play market grow in the past years.
Eve every day more noob friendly, who care about feedback from 7 years subscriber. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.27 12:07:00 -
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Fozzie thx you for an official reply by CCP.
Actually the problem is not to have subcaps ready to kill enemy dictor " appearing on grid " but to have a chance to not be bubbled if i do all my homeworks.
Once a cap is bubbled it's committed in fight and as new warp speed mechanic is, nothing can prevent to be bubbled by a dictor.
Even a few seconds activation delay on bubble launcher will fix it. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.27 15:48:00 -
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Captain StringfellowHawk wrote:More Risk and removal of Laziness from players, Forcing them to adapt to situations. I'm all for it :)
Maybe you just missed the whole thread's sense. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.27 16:14:00 -
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Well, after first thousand petitions will be sent for " ghost bubble " this will became a major issue.
We tried to warn them. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.27 19:10:00 -
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Sven Viko VIkolander wrote:The reason why it is not necessarily game breaking is because intel in EVE is already incredibly easy--dscan, local, spies, etc. This change will, for one, require people (supers, fleets, etc.) to make much more use of intel, as well as anti-tackle than they currently do--which diversifies the meta quite a bit.
Well, having a dictor in system or have it landed on my fleet it's a bit different.
So u r suggesting that my sniper fleet should just warp to pos and stop fighting because a dictor is in system?
Even if we are aligned full speed to our warp out fleet mate in direction of nothing?
No i think CCP just need to look in this issue and fix it before Rubicon is deployed, otherwise as i said a few days ago:
Instant land
Instant bubble
Die to all not plated/blaster fitted doctrines |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.10.27 21:01:00 -
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Well, this is a serious feedback thread and pizza will not derail it in a flame. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.10.27 23:07:00 -
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You don't even need new set of implants, slot 6 hardwiring gives a ridicolous amount of bonus.
Well i read someone before talking about growing something and fighting instead of run away.
Should learn difference between fight and being massacred by blaster boats.
Also as i want to give credit to R&K for good traps with smartbombs (they have spy or just very good timing) imagine an EVE where every noob can bubble a fleet, light a cyno and smartbomb enemy fleet because of dictors " appearing on grid ".
T1 bs hull, 8 t1 smartbombs, a couple of plates and hardeners.... |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.28 08:17:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:One of the great things about stats like this is that we can change them very rapidly. If high grade pirate
I completely agree that these kinds of changes are very disruptive to existing tactics, but disruptive changes provide content and allow the best minds to rise to the top. Disruptive changes are intrinsically valuable.
Nobody is gonna ban you guys for overusing this if it's too powerful, so go forth and theorycraft and prove your assertions in the wild.
So you might as well delete from database long range weapons since as soon as 1 dictor is in system every ranged fleet from arty muninn to railgun megathron is useless compared to any blaster ship.
Oh well, we can still fit long range weapon on marauders, because being stuck for 1 whole min will not prevent an interceptor to travel 2 systems and tackle me. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.10.28 09:32:00 -
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Marnoth wrote: I have to agree with Fozzie that we just have to wait and see how players adapt and if it is really horrible you can still change it back.
No, just no!
That's why we have a test server.
If something is broken on test server we don't have to wait a disaster on TQ.
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Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
19
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Posted - 2013.10.28 12:03:00 -
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Jason Itiner wrote:I see the points all the naysayers bring up, but I honestly don't see the reason they bring them up. It's not like a bubble permanently burns out the warp drive, the moment the interdictor is destroyed, the bubble collapses and everyone's free to engage warp and scramble. Fozzie's suggestion is perfectly reasonable, I can't even fathom why he has to point out the obvious.
An interdictor lands on grid and throws out a bubble, but ten seconds later it's locked up and destroyed by the escort, by fighters, by smartbombs, by a bomber wing, or whatever. The bubble collapses, and everyone can leave like nothing happened. If you have enemies en route, you still only need to take out the interdictor and weather out the assault until warp becomes clear again.
There's a very good reason you see capital ships in real life moving in fleets of escorts and logistical/technical ships, and not the entire US carrier fleet in one bunch.
This guy must be a troll or high sec noob.
Interdictor's bubble (sabre, flycatcher,heretic,eris) doesn't disappear if dictor dies and u can't shoot bubble if not with smartbomb but capital are slow and range of bubble > than officer smartbomb so u have to approach it. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.28 19:52:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Dirk Action wrote:the warp speed changes are fine
the ACCELERATION from sublight speed to FTL speed that is the warp bubble is fine
the DECELERATION from FTL speed that is the warp bubble to sublight speed is not fine
Here's the key thing to remember. Virtually the entire impact of these changes is ties to deceleration. Warp top speed isn't actually changing much with the changes (and is actually going down for the fast ships), the problem we're fixing with this whole feature is how acceleration and deceleration used to be the same for all ships.
The part of this change you don't like is also virtually the only part that has any impact
So, by " fixing " you mean introducing an exploitable mechanic to a long time well tested feature?
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Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.28 22:54:00 -
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I can see only 1 real fix.
Close Singularity and test server feedback forum section.
No more customers warning you are breaking the game. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
22
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Posted - 2013.10.29 08:06:00 -
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Dictor's pilot landing on spot or cloaky prober know he has to bubble on landing so he can spam f1 while still in warp, grid loaded --> bubble up.
Mid range fleet shooting it's primaries ordered by distance aligned full speed to warp out can't spam warp for obvious reasons, so as soon fleet see dictor it's too late.
As someone said before even having 1 " monkey dude " in fleet which only task is to spam d-scan (14.4) every ******* second of it's miserable life u still have to be lucky to scan the dictor in that 1 sec. interval and this will anyway make your fleet warp out even if a dictor warp from gate to gate and not from gate to battlefield.
So yes, future is t3 nullified fleets, great improvement to gameplay |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.10.30 17:57:00 -
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Ahahah so now ceptors are not only bubble immune and almost impossible to lock with sebo frigate but they can also pass through smartbombs
How many ares can i buy for each megathron i've? |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.10.31 15:17:00 -
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You pizza guy missing the whole part where is explained that even sniper muninn or other subcapitals fleet can be bubbled by " not yet in overview " dictor.
But this isn't a broken mechanics for sure. |
Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.11.01 18:06:00 -
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Montami wrote:Giullare wrote:You pizza guy missing the whole part where is explained that even sniper muninn or other subcapitals fleet can be bubbled by " not yet in overview " dictor.
But this isn't a broken mechanics for sure. You either: a) Smartbomb the bubble off (if dictor @ 0) b) Bomb the bubble off (if dictor @ range and now dead due to **** muninns) c) defensive bubble your fleet to prevent warp-ins
A)
Are you kidding me? i've a sniper muninn or zealot or legion or tengu fleet where the f-uck are smartbombs?
20km range dictor bubble, have you any notion of space dimensions? you can't be serious to tell me to smarbomb a bubble in a 10-100 man gang occupying a 30km sphere in space
B)
Again, where the f-uck are bombs in such fleet? Bomb needs travel time to explode assuming it can reach bubble, during that time dicto can light cyno or its fleet waiting 200km away can warp on us, no one care if the bubble or the dictor die later to the bomb.
C)
You can't bubble all celestial's directions to your fleet assuming the " ghost dictor " can warp to us from sun, gates, 1-12 planets, safespot in direction of nothing.
So pizza, you are just full of **** and going around with a bomber launching a single bomb to other fleets fighting just to appear on killmails list doesn't prove you understand pvp or doctrines.
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Giullare
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
25
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Posted - 2013.11.03 22:15:00 -
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Lot of ppl writing bulshit.. did i read correctly the coolstory about " medium smartbombs celestis " saving my day?
So did he for real wrote about medium smartbombs to be used to kill dictor bubbles?
Have i to post you a picture about bubble adn medium smartbomb ranges?
He just can't be serious.
The other guy saying i deserve to die to 200km's fleet, well boy i said 200km but i could have said 20 au.. it doesn't matter.
The fact is that if i've a full speed fleet aligned to a save warp out i should be in the position to extract it whenever i want and not be bubbled by ghost dictor.
This bullshit will just make disappear any kind of variety in eve and relegate long range weapons (rebalanced only a few time ago) to the oblivion since it will just make no sense to use lower dps ships when you can be bubbled anytime without any chance to prevent it.
Come on it's so simple to see. |
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