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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.28 13:38:00 -
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Quote: Qball CTD'd also. It sucks but that is the way it goes - Qball lost his little pet scorpion. He logged back in as fast as he could, but by the time he did his armor was pretty much exhausted.
BULL
he never left local, he was in my buddy list also, and he never left game. he was jammed up and going nowhere is what.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.08.28 13:45:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Shadow Walker on 28/08/2003 13:15:59 let me state this, we arnt experiencing nething, that or we arnt little winers, but ive been fine and i havent heard neone compaining, ur efforts to annoy us are Futile. dont you understand your giving us enjoyment not annoyance, u guys are like shooting fish in a barrel.
Totally pointless debating with a 15 year old, cya in space.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.28 13:46:00 -
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Heh, welcome to the concept of alliances Shadow. You can't just say "you're fighting evol and xanadu, not us", you're in the alliance now.
Besides, what you describe about wolf leader is exactly what Evol has been doing in Venal and exactly what wolf intended to do. Small guerilla attacks against lone/weak/easy targets.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 13:51:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Lianhaun on 28/08/2003 13:38:20 Edited by: Lianhaun on 28/08/2003 13:37:46
Quote: After all, Fa declared war on VA, seems logical that you would come to us.
Quote: Falacy. Two corps incurred into Venal in order to attack one single corp. This was their own decision for their own means and they did not do so on behalf of the Fountain alliance.
Thats weird, cause my intel said it should have been more then only 2 corps invading venal. And that every corps can decide for themselves, but they were expecting an Fa versus VA, and not Evo&Xan against Venal. And before you even think about saying my intel is wrong, it came from there best sources there are. Chat of the corporation it self!
What about the rumour that this war will be a means of measuring the alliances in fountain. I think it implied that those who dont contribute will be chased out of fountain in a few weeks after. This suggests that there weak elements in Fountain, and thus its a good reason to ninja attack in Fountain. Dont to mention its damn fun. Especially if it works and people are upset because they cant chainspawn in safety. I must say I had expected more of that specific Xanadu lass.
Then since your intel is so accurate and true. My intel says in 3 days the Jovians will come to FA and give us lots of tech 2 BP's. My intel also states that I saw in your corporation chat that due to VA ****ing off the FA, corps are wanting to leave the alliance. "And before you even think about saying my intel is wrong, it came from there best sources there are. Chat of the corporation it self! "
I'm going to say this once again, bring it if your up to the challenge. Actions speak more then **** talk on forums. You know where we are, come get some. 
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.08.28 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 28/08/2003 14:04:11 The VA will begin to reconstruct the last few days in Venal for the FA guys as off tonight. You will ose BS, your lowly pilots will become discontent with now living in fear. You will lose many cruisers, freights, figates, pods, and eventually your pilots will raise their disasitsfaction with their feet.
I have lost 2 pilots in last 3 days, not because of the VA aliiance, but because the game allows such shoddy use of its mechanics , and makes what should be an interetsting situation, very very boring idd, believe you me shadow, depsite you bs, it is impossible to stop a force of about 12 battleships from wrecking the peace in your alliance. Those 12 bs of course can never do anything more than cause unrest in the lower ranks of players, and wil lcause the occasional excitment for the combat guys in big ships, but that is about it, but after all, that would seem to be their whole mission in its entirety.
Have fun chasing a non existent foe, have fun camping gates whilst this games shoddy combat mechanics allow pilots to escape very easily. Its all fun n games till someone gets hurt. thats what my mum used to tell me.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:00:00 -
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Well, SISQO, perhaps you should look me up ingame and see what corporation I am. Before you invite me to do lunch with you. Just a suggestion, nothing more...
But I didn't see Evo&Xan denying what ive said...now did they?
This is not a hijack
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:04:00 -
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"BULL
he never left local, he was in my buddy list also, and he never left game. he was jammed up and going nowhere is what."
Well I will believe Qball, the GM, and the log that showed what happend. I was not there so that is all I can say. It really does not matter anyhow.
Unless you had multiple webs locked on him he could of MWD'd away. But if you did, then your right, CTD or no CTD he was a dead panda. And second maybe if he would of left the area fast instead of getting kill greedy then the whole event probably would of been avoided in the first place imo.
Look, I probably should not of even mentioned the CTD because I figured I would see a retarded response. The point in posting it was to give some condolance to your alliance friend that **** happens in the busted game a lot like that. And, despite what you hear, GMs will work with you on such losses if deemed 100% on the side of game error.
Good job, you killed a scorpion. Now he is stuck in his raven and has to buy another scorp. Does that make you feel better now - lol.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sedsiss on 28/08/2003 14:09:14 Allow me to clarify Lian, we did not deny that accusation for two reasons.
1.) Were fighting a war, and can't patrol the forums for every ***** pot conspiracy theory out there.
2.) It's so obviously false, as well as hand crafted that it doesn't need to be edited. Since I have access to every FA secure area built, I can easily say that what you claimed was total bull. Nice try though:)
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:10:00 -
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Quote: Well, SISQO, perhaps you should look me up ingame and see what corporation I am. Before you invite me to do lunch with you. Just a suggestion, nothing more...
But I didn't see Evo&Xan denying what ive said...now did they?
Who are you again? I don't give a rats ass who you are. I will say this again, if you want to use Evo and Xan as an excuse to attack all of FA. Be my guest, let actions speak more then words. I will be sitting in FA awaiting your arrival, friend.
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:10:00 -
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http://myeve.eve-online.com/screenshots/Default.asp?screenID=373
Look, there he is, crashed to desktop taking screenshots of his ship. 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:11:00 -
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oh, but this did not came from any boards my love. Its from a chat. I just cant reveal my source, I'm rather fond of it and I hope it can remain in its position for a long time to come.
I just pitty the small corporations within Fa 
This is not a hijack
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ROFL
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:11:00 -
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Quote: And before you even think about saying my intel is wrong, it came from there best sources there are. Chat of the corporation it self!
I was thinking it the moment I read the word 'intel.' Here is my reply: "You're intel is wrong."
Quote: What about the rumour that this war will be a means of measuring the alliances in fountain. I think it implied that those who dont contribute will be chased out of fountain in a few weeks after.
Yeah, what about that rumor, hm? Its a rather poor attempt at stirring internal FA conflict. FA can handle its own business, if a corporation turns out to be there to only leach and not contribute to the rest of the alliance members, they will be pruned and weeded out. We don't need a war as an excuse to do that.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:15:00 -
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BAHAHAHAHAH. This has just officially killed any credibility the VA had, if any, since they are pirates. I'm sorry this is absolutely hilarious, I have done the favor of saving the screenshot, not to mention the screenshot of the post you said he died due to CTD, and how the GM's verified it. lol. Ba ba ba BULLLLL****.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:17:00 -
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No you dont need a war to excuse it, but its a fine way to see who is active and who is not. Again, I want to point out I'm just sharing information here, and no doubt they ones who i got it from are scratching their heads. SISQO, I have no business in Fountain for i'm not part of Venal, or for a nice conspiracy : perhaps i'm in fountain allready
You all seem to react mighty aggresive to this piece of 'nonsense, dont you dearies?
This is not a hijack
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:18:00 -
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Edited by: SISQO on 28/08/2003 14:21:20
Quote: oh, but this did not came from any boards my love. Its from a chat. I just cant reveal my source, I'm rather fond of it and I hope it can remain in its position for a long time to come.
I just pitty the small corporations within Fa 
Hey, pity them all you want. All of FA are getting along fine, hapily mining our bistot and farming npc pirates day in day out. I haven't heard any complaints, nor dissatisfaction. As you have said you are an outsider, you don't know jack ****. As my comrade said above, I think the FA can handle its own business, you just worry about not getting podded in FA ok?
EDIT: To reply to your newest reply. We reply agressively in the same manner, you would if a stranger insulted your mother. Perfectly normal for alliance members to defend each other and twart out ass pimples and ******* acne. 
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:19:00 -
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I am thinkning you dont actually know what youtr talking about.
He began fight, at same time that your member ctd he did, and then re logged in.
Thats my understanding anyways.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:19:00 -
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Why would he lie about it?
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:23:00 -
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ALSO
It is the small corps like KIa etc that are suffering in these "wars".
The big corps can replace ships easily, teh smaller ones that BS represents weeks of work for the individual.
Evo and the like, have no thought wahtsoever for the smaller guys, and I too pity FAs smaller corps, if they feel anything like we do right now in a few days, then they will have my sincerest condolonsces.
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CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:24:00 -
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Quote: I am thinkning you dont actually know what youtr talking about.
He began fight, at same time that your member ctd he did, and then re logged in.
Thats my understanding anyways.
If he just began the fight, and hes already below 50% shields. I guess he died within the next 2 seconds. 
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SkyLeach
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: SkyLeach on 28/08/2003 14:29:15 well what his buddy said was, as soon as he was locked he CTD. LIE - screenshot shows active combat several ships locked and firing.
Now your moving the posts again saying that our member CTD at the same time as Qball did and our member logged back in to see his ship explode. -- do you see an explosion on the screenshot? do you see a cruiser? or a pod? NO
do you see two cargo cans? YES, one from shadow walker, and one from the corpse in Qballs hold.
Now make another excuse up and try to get your ship back from the GM's.
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:26:00 -
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I don't know how the VA runs, and I will be RESPECTFUL and not try to make up bull**** about how you run, unlike your VA counterparts.
If smaller corps in FA lose ships, the other FA members will aid them via ISK donations, offers to build ships at cost/discount, and hell even for free. So, again, don't worry about us, pity yourself.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:27:00 -
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I am an outsider, but you know how it goes. An alt here, and alt there. Fun Fun Fun for us all.
I'm still missing comments though, but they are forbidden to reply. Another sad note.
This is not a hijack
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boeses frettchen
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:32:00 -
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you mistake your own importance lianhaun.
and you mistake the impact of your 'intel'.
it is official FA council policy to watch member activity. there's nothing secret about it. and tbh im quite amused by your reaction to it.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.28 14:32:00 -
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Edited by: The Wretch on 28/08/2003 14:35:04
I don't know. But maybe I am not restating the events exactly as they happend - I was not there and was in chat with qball when the GM interaction took place.
I see no reason for someone to say they CTD'd when they did not. What is the point?
It is pretty easy to tell that he should of warped out right away when that force jumped in on a lone bship.
CTD or no CTD, you should not take a risk like that even with a MWD on imo. Live and learn.
I will clarify the CTD thing with him later when not at work. I have known qball for sometime now and he has alway been upfront about any situation - bad or good.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.08.28 15:34:00 -
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"Though i got to say VA members do alot more running then fighting."
Sounds like they have EVOL tatics down pat. ;)
And why are you complaining against the ENTIRE Venal Alliance? Why not just the like two or three people who were down in Fountain?
After all, you seem to expect that it's perfectly okay for Xanadu and EVOL to attack Venal, while the rest of your alliance claims neutrality. Why can't one or two Venal corps do the same thing while the rest of Venal claims neutrality?
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.08.28 15:40:00 -
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Your ABSOL-*******-LUTELY RIGHT!!!! Send down a few more VA ships.
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Fuffel
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Posted - 2003.08.28 16:13:00 -
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Quote: ALSO
It is the small corps like KIa etc that are suffering in these "wars".
The big corps can replace ships easily, teh smaller ones that BS represents weeks of work for the individual.
Evo and the like, have no thought wahtsoever for the smaller guys, and I too pity FAs smaller corps, if they feel anything like we do right now in a few days, then they will have my sincerest condolonsces.
thank you, Sir!
but fountain wasnt excatly what i would call a peacefull place since we came here, so we might get over it - somehow...
Enjoy your stay in fountain!
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.08.28 17:45:00 -
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omg i cant believe we started another damn thread about all this bs
ffs, if you want to post stuff about this conflict, post sotires or something interesting, dont come in here, all high and mighty like your the king-god of the world saying "omg look at them run!" and "they run faster then everyone else" cause we have all been down this road already
Get over the fact that yes, when you are outnumbered, and the odds of loosing your ship are high, you will warp out, cause fighting a senceles battle you know you cant win is stupid. So just stfu already everyone here would do the same thing
now that said stop flamin like grade 5 kiddies sayin "i know you are but what am I" and play th game
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Wolf Leader
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Posted - 2003.08.28 20:54:00 -
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While I know im a little late but in response to shadow walkers first post. Yes im ran from that caracal wasnt expecting it to pop six torps off at me O.o Yes i attacked your mate at the gate Lt something or other. Was a very good fight i probably would have won but iwould have been at like 10-20% Structure. The way of the ninja states that you are to attack from the shadows to gain the element of surprise. Once that surprise is lost the ninja fades to the shadows and awaits his next chance. All in all i have had great fun with the fountain guys most of them are polite except 2 indy drivers and one of the leaders of i think its xanadu. Keep it up guys ill be around. And watch your back the ninja strikes at midnight. O.o But im a nice guy..... |

Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.08.28 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tehel Necrona on 28/08/2003 21:30:45 You will learn, children that the secret to victory in combat is not knowing how to fight, but knowing when.
-Tehel.
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