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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.30 00:47:00 -
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So let me get this right, you're saying this thing with Venal is just Evol and Xan's business. So, if Venal would come to Fountain to get back at only Evol and Xan, the rest of fountain would just grab popcorn and watch?
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Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.08.30 01:33:00 -
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Ofcourse not. But we got the power to back it up, you apperantly dont.
Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
"There is TONS of flaming, personal abuse and
other bad behaviour on the In-game board and in In-game world. If everybody would just read the rules and follow them, the EVE world be a much nicer place to be in."
Feel free to copy this Signature. |
Lord Fountain
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:09:00 -
[123]
Recent reports coming in through various channels from Venal, just indicate a major fleet battle between Venal Alliance and the Fountain Confederation took place.
Reports are confusing so far, but Losses to the Venal alliance is so far counted to be 6-7 battleships and several Cruisers. The confederation fleet lost 1 blackbird.
Sincerely Yours
Lord Fountain
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Skillz on 30/08/2003 02:13:41
This is crap not realistic. When combat ships travel far way from their resupply bases, their combat efficency should diminish.
Major implementation fault from CTD Offline
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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ROFL
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:21:00 -
[125]
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So let me get this right, you're saying this thing with Venal is just Evol and Xan's business. So, if Venal would come to Fountain to get back at only Evol and Xan, the rest of fountain would just grab popcorn and watch?
Yeah, maybe if you all bought 1 day passes or something. :) Rules are rules... cant come in without a pass.
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Runefinger
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:21:00 -
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to Correct all kills (i was there)
we can account for at least 4 battleships and unknown number off cruiser
losses were 1 frigate that got caught in friendly torpedo fire
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Kettic
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Posted - 2003.08.30 02:25:00 -
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I was the lone casualty with Fountain. I was in a Kestrel. No blackbird was lost by Fountain. Thank you.
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Lord Fountain
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:05:00 -
[128]
Reports are highly confusing at the time. whats not confusing is that Fountain won a clear victory. In what is one of the few fullscale fleet battles against the Venal alliance.
I salute you valiant pilots of the Confederation. |
Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:10:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Indigo Seqi on 30/08/2003 03:16:58
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[VENAL 2:00 EVE standard time]
Post-battle reports indicate that enormous subspace traffic resulting from the interfacing of the masses of drones present at the fight somehow interrupted the camera drone uplink of all the ships' pods entering the battlezone, leaving confused pilots clueless in their now darkened pods. Many of these pilots never saw their video return until the backup camera drones of the pod itself switched on, a sad sign of the pilot's ship being destroyed.
It was also found that ships exiting the gravity field of the space station present in the battlezone fell prey to this interference.
Saddened by this effect drones still seem to have even after extensive research & development, officials from both sides of this conflict have filed claims against the major corps involved in drone research in the EVE galaxy. Sources indicate that at least Isukone and Lai Dai have received these claims at the time of this writing, but drone distributor Oberon Inc. has yet to reply to this serious matter.
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:19:00 -
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Once again I miss what sounds like a fun battle, oh well:(
@ Enzo
I've been around in EVE since before the Alpha techs, so I know the entire history of the Taggart rise and the fall of INO. Neither side was innocent during the affair, which makes it a bit confusing.
A rather outspoken reporter by the name of Shadow Stalker worked for INO, and was approached by some unknown (don't know if TTi ever caught the mole) person/persons gave Shadow some copys of an interal TTi memo that showed TTi to be lying about some matter that is so long ago i've forgotten. TTi got ruffled, to be expected. They declared war, which was kind of silly since a Pro-INO alliance formed almost immediately after, with the corporations of (I believe, I could be mistaken) Hosokawa, Black Storm Inc (now defunct) and a few others who swore one way or another to fight TTi to the death if they harmed one reporter. TTi under Ragnar then began threatening and taking RL legal action against Shadow Stalker, I heard from various sources that he went far enough to sue the isp for Shadows name and address, that I can't confirm. Shadow said he would not divulge the moles name, ever. INO caved under TTi pressure, and suspended Shadow. Shadow quit eve in disgust, as well as some other reporters. INO shortly after, became defunct. The death of INO was not all because of the TTi matter though, it was also largely ingame mechanics, such as the long promised news by subscription service never seeing the time of day.
Frankly, I'll never look at Ragnar the same way again from how he reacted during the whole affair. But aside from that, I have not heard of TTi ever really going after the press, I have been told they even tried to endorse a short lived Black Storm Inc news service that died along with the parent corp.
</history lesson>
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Uncle Enzo
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Posted - 2003.08.30 03:26:00 -
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Thank you Sedsiss, I appreciate the info. Seems like sueing is overreaction to the lame actions of the INO guy and his source (in the mmorpg's I've played before, spying on people's internal boards is usually considered poor form and most people frown upon it). |
Taliranowe Sarum
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Posted - 2003.08.30 04:19:00 -
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Wouldnt spying on someones boards, be considered an IC act of spying. And actually considered part of the game?
Read the Rules Of Conduct and Terms Of Usage
"There is TONS of flaming, personal abuse and
other bad behaviour on the In-game board and in In-game world. If everybody would just read the rules and follow them, the EVE world be a much nicer place to be in."
Feel free to copy this Signature. |
Flatliner
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Posted - 2003.08.30 05:09:00 -
[133]
Flatliner strokes Rokisha Chaldri's corpse. 
Greetings Venal!.
Flatliner.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.08.30 08:02:00 -
[134]
As I was sifting through the remaining debris after the battle, I found the captain's chair of Roark's Apocalypse class battleship floating lifelessly. I knew it was his because his lifeless, frozen and dried up corpse was still stradled around it.
I hope ragnor doesn't sue us. |
Sweet Fresca
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Posted - 2003.08.30 08:26:00 -
[135]
For the record, Ragnar went after Shadow Stalker because a private website that he paid for was broken into and private information was broadcast for all to see.
It is not dissimilar from a case that had national attention, when a private AIDS forum was broken into and names and other info were broadcast for all to see. The guy that did that went to jail.
It is unfortunate that people cannot play the game IN GAME and they have to do whatever underhanded things they can to try to embarass corps by selectively editing and re-posting PRIVATE messages. They use the excuse "freedom of the press" and "it has to do with EVE so it is okay" and other spineless BS.
I for one am very happy that Ragnar goes to such lengths to protect his people. We have pictures of our children there, phone numbers, other very private things. The idea that creeps like some of you are out there pouring through it to make yourselves look better in a stupid game is just plain sick.
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frstkor13
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Posted - 2003.08.30 08:36:00 -
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A few things that the derelicts that reside in Raggy's pants should be aware of.
- there is a big different between hacking, and what happened. this game allows for spying.
- if you are discussing in game events in your forums, then you are hypocrits for calling them oog because it suits your lawyers case.
- if you need to use out of game lawyers to help you win games, then there is seriously something wrong with you.
I suggest that all of you weaklings, that think its ok to sue people who spy on you and relay your eve forum info, turn off your computers and cease breathing. |
Roark
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Posted - 2003.08.30 08:43:00 -
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TTI didn't use any "insurance scams" or any other cheats or exploits to make our money. CCP or GMs are welcome to jump on here and prove me wrong.
As an executive of TTI, we have seen all of these OOG attacks against TTI for about a year now. They seek to lie and spread half-truths about TTI with the cause du jour simply because we are the biggest and most famous. The only way they can make a name for themselves is by trying to get their name in the headlines.
TTI has made all of its money honestly and fairly. I currently spend about a billion ISK of personal money a week paying miners from many different companies in Korama who are keeping my battleship business well oiled. What it takes to get rich is being a good, honest, and trustworthy businessman that many people like to work with. Pure PvPers simply do not understand this, thus the non-stop "TTI must be cheating" attacks. Typical.
I'm not saying TTI has a monopoly on smart businessmen. There are many other great capitalists out there that work at other corps and do fine, fine work every day. I certainly wish they would join up with us so we can take their operation to the next level.
Evolution and their willing accomplices are trying to break TTI apart from the inside and the outside by a policy of disinformation and the politics of personal destruction. This is and will continue to be an utter failure because a wedge can never be driven between management and employees at TTI. TTI's power lies 100% with the employees who are happy, work hard, and enjoy the comraderie of like-minded and mature individuals both inside and outside of TTI to work with on a daily basis. The bonds here are strong and the respect for our fellow man runs deep. This internal strength and continued success will remain a point of flummox for our enemies, so we expect more baseless lies and whatnot to continue about TTI.
BTW, come buy a battleship from me... I'll beat anyone's prices because I am curazzzy Roark. :)
Roark - Taggart Transdimensional - www.taggarttd.com |
Revolution
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Posted - 2003.08.30 09:46:00 -
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tti may be the biggest, but you are not the most famous, nor the richest.
You surely are a good example to corps that actually do have power and influence, how "not" to do things.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2003.08.30 09:51:00 -
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Quote:
TTI didn't use any "insurance scams" or any other cheats or exploits to make our money. CCP or GMs are welcome to jump on here and prove me wrong.
Also, I dont know why your dragging up this pathetic cry, it has no relevance to previous posts on this page at all.
Im emailing customer support right now for your highly abusive and offensive post.
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.30 12:32:00 -
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Quote:
For the record, Ragnar went after Shadow Stalker because a private website that he paid for was broken into and private information was broadcast for all to see.
It is not dissimilar from a case that had national attention, when a private AIDS forum was broken into and names and other info were broadcast for all to see. The guy that did that went to jail.
It is unfortunate that people cannot play the game IN GAME and they have to do whatever underhanded things they can to try to embarass corps by selectively editing and re-posting PRIVATE messages. They use the excuse "freedom of the press" and "it has to do with EVE so it is okay" and other spineless BS.
I for one am very happy that Ragnar goes to such lengths to protect his people. We have pictures of our children there, phone numbers, other very private things. The idea that creeps like some of you are out there pouring through it to make yourselves look better in a stupid game is just plain sick.
You freaking idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't broken into. A person from inside TTI gave SS some information about the corp and its dealings. Apples and Oranges with the Aids webpage thing. Idiot.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.30 13:40:00 -
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I'm curious then, if TTI isn't the richest (Roark alone shoves around billions), who is it?
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2003.08.30 13:47:00 -
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Quote:
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For the record, Ragnar went after Shadow Stalker because a private website that he paid for was broken into and private information was broadcast for all to see.
It is not dissimilar from a case that had national attention, when a private AIDS forum was broken into and names and other info were broadcast for all to see. The guy that did that went to jail.
It is unfortunate that people cannot play the game IN GAME and they have to do whatever underhanded things they can to try to embarass corps by selectively editing and re-posting PRIVATE messages. They use the excuse "freedom of the press" and "it has to do with EVE so it is okay" and other spineless BS.
I for one am very happy that Ragnar goes to such lengths to protect his people. We have pictures of our children there, phone numbers, other very private things. The idea that creeps like some of you are out there pouring through it to make yourselves look better in a stupid game is just plain sick.
You freaking idiot. You have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't broken into. A person from inside TTI gave SS some information about the corp and its dealings. Apples and Oranges with the Aids webpage thing. Idiot.
Amen Crimson,
When Ragnar went off the handle on this one, he really went off the deep end. Thought someone hacked his forums and or stole a password when it actually was one of his own "trusted individuals" Shadow Stalker to his credit refused to give any names and or information, which basically threw Ragnar into his 4 year old tizzy, of I'll sue you so bad.
So to compare this to the Aids database is really so far form what actually happened it really just shows how much your dis-informed of the facts.
Strange how TTI calls Evolution bullies...
At least when we come for you, its just us. Not our army of lawyers.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.30 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 30/08/2003 14:25:09
"In regards to MDW - Morkt still plays, and is apparently sponsoring MDW to the tune of a hundred million (or was it billion?) isk. How exactly is this Morkt being silenced?
The fact that MDW hasn't published a new edition doesn't prove anything beyond the fact that the new editor is busy. He was posting lots of stuff on the message boards last week, and has said nothing about TTI pressure on him. Are you now insinuating that anytime something does or does not happen, it must be TTI's fault?"
... If you check the Summit section you'll see the 'new' MDW editor is supposedly hospitalized in critical condition at the moment, and the MDW itself was bought out by more corporation-friendly news source, and as such is no more.
edit: but no, i don't think this in particular is TTi's fault; although it leaves enough room for some nice, over-the-top RP conspiracy theories. ;s
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2003.08.30 14:33:00 -
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During the whole affair with the TTI-INO thing I gained a rather better insight due to my affiliations with INO. After all of this, I safely can say that I cannot, and indeed will not, respect Ragnar as either a businessman or a decent human being. His reaction was incredibly harsh, off-the scale and at times immoral. He threatened Shadow_Stalker with legal action for publishing information he got from a source that had legal access to TTI's forums, but was repelled by the US laws (they live in different states, so he would have had to make a federal case out of it).
Ragnar, if you read this, then know that you long ago earned my life-long contempt. You may have won the little TTi-INO struggle, but know that almost everyone was against you on the matter.
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Neptunus
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Posted - 2003.08.30 15:34:00 -
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I don't why Evolution is so concerned with something Ragnar did before the game even came out to someone out of game. If I remember correctly there is another federal action (FBI stuff not initialted by Ragnar) at TTI for whoever has been sending their members viruses.
From what I understand, TTI is an older gaming crowd and they get annoyed at script-kiddies and others that constantly attack them using OOG methods. I can't say I blame them. The more I read about the anti-TTI hatred it is a lot of have-nots that have to try REALLY hard to grasp for valid straws to talk about why TTI is so "terrible" : they exploit, they cheat, their leader is a raving lunatic, etc.
I don't see any negative comments coming from members of TTI about this stuff. It is clear Ragnar seeks to protect them and give them a good gaming experience. I am a *little* bitter because they rejected my application to join, but I do know they are a very tight knit group. Even though they rejected me they have continued to be very nice and classy with me in business dealings in game, and I respect that.
It is just a shame that this thread is filled with OOG attacks at what I see to be fine and upstanding people. The hatred of TTI continues to be irrational and random. I have never found any members of TTI to be arrogant. So they are polysyllabic and use Latin in their posts - does that make them elitist and arrogant? I can understand the "anti-Microsoft" spirit out there of black-t-shirt wearing unix simpsons-comic-book-guys, but the level of hatred in this thread at TTI is NOT good role-playing (I am a terrible roleplayer, admittedly) and filled with people whose obvious political agenda is to make a name for themselves by attempting to besmirch the biggest corp.
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.08.30 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sedsiss on 30/08/2003 15:48:43
God, all I did was explain an issue that some people were misquoting and misrepresenting, I wasn't using it to attack TTi. READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE FLAMING.
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Crimson Rose
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Posted - 2003.08.30 16:08:00 -
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Neptunus,
Read the whole thread before you post. The Evolution that did post, as well as I, did so towards the ones that posted with idiocy and they themselves brought up the TTI crap. Now you fit in that catergory also. Idiot. I think this thread has gone its course and then some.
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.08.30 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: The Wretch on 30/08/2003 16:35:21
"I'm curious then, if TTI isn't the richest (Roark alone shoves around billions), who is it?"
If TTI is not the richest then probably Techell. But if you combined a corporations population wealth total, I don't think many can beat TTI.
The Wretch
Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.08.30 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: PropanElgen on 30/08/2003 16:58:17
This Ragnar character seems mentally challenged
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.08.30 17:13:00 -
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Yes mentally challenged people set up big organisations every day.
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