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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.01.30 22:57:00 -
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Location: Jita
*Kyogen looks around at the gathered press in the room and then bows his head slightly to the microphone*
Citizens of the State!
For far to long have the Caldari State chosen a neutral stance towards the vile gallente. We gained our independence, but lost our backbone.
Today begins a new era. the long awaited campaign against Gallente Corporations on the border to caldari space, in caldari space and in gallente space has begun.
The goal of this campaign is simple. To erradicate the scum that is gallente and all that support them. To weed out their business in Caldari space and let the State and its citizens economy bloom. To take what is rightfully ours.
Today my friends... the Caldari will be reborn.
We will never forget Caldari prime, and now the redemption has begun.
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Galtra Vorhlon
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:02:00 -
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Why not change your corporation logo to a huge target, with the words wardecc me please?
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:15:00 -
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Why, Kyogen.
We cannot go on clashing like this. I see you've dusted off your old rhethoric again, nothing not seen before.
I suspect you'd like nothing more than to be reviled throughout Gallente space, loathed and feared on par with the most hated murderers and madmen...Quaint, considering you fit both niches.
Lay hand on my Gallente and Intaki brothers and sisters, and those that stand under the Federation's protection, and I will hunt you down like the rabid cur you've proven yourself to be.
Let that be all. For now, return to your padded cell, Kyogen. You're missed.
*smiles* Been so long already...
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner ...To weed out their business in Caldari space and let the State and its citizens economy bloom.
So you're saying that your plan is to increase the economic health of the State by eliminating a major portion of its market? Cleeeeeeverrr...
The Red Mom of WarÖ |

Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner ...To weed out their business in Caldari space and let the State and its citizens economy bloom.
So you're saying that your plan is to increase the economic health of the State by eliminating a major portion of its market? Cleeeeeeverrr...
No, Dividing the market between more.... worthy Races. For example, without quafe, Starsi will profit more no?
Cassius... your federation WILL burn, it may take years.. but the result will be the same. I will see you on the battlefield. |

Kyoko Sakoda
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:27:00 -
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Racism makes people look cool.
Good luck, you're going to need it without the support of the State. 
Learn what it means to be Caldari - www.omertasyndicate.com |

Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:39:00 -
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Although I don't speak for the Reserve here, I'd like to say that until the State pursues such an agenda, with the orders of the Chief Executive Panel guiding them I do not think this hostile activity is beneficial to the State.
At the moment, there is an uneasy peace between the State and the Federation. If war breaks out, I will march with the State south, but not before.
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All for the Good of Many Caldari Navy |

Sirius Fenrir
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
Originally by: Shintoko Akahoshi
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner ...To weed out their business in Caldari space and let the State and its citizens economy bloom.
So you're saying that your plan is to increase the economic health of the State by eliminating a major portion of its market? Cleeeeeeverrr...
No, Dividing the market between more.... worthy Races. For example, without quafe, Starsi will profit more no?
Cassius... your federation WILL burn, it may take years.. but the result will be the same. I will see you on the battlefield.
Although id very much like seeing Starsi more profitable in our State and the other empires aswell, This is a fragile peace and like Mr. Vankaalen said with on the fact that your going to have to get the CEP to back you before it can be an effetive campaign.
nice cold Starsi, taste like revenge... |

Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.01.31 03:38:00 -
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I don't really follow how blowing up Gallente ships will increase Drink Starsis' market share, but then again I never claimed to be the brightest tool in the box... In any case, you go, Kyogen! There is certainly no more worthy target for a Caldari patriot to focus on than Gallente businesses! Why, just imagine how much better things will be for Caldari everywhere if the State and Federation go to war. It'd be great! I just can't decide if I'd be better off learning to speak Amarran or just signing up with the Guristas at what would probably be their home base in Jita...
The Red Mom of WarÖ |

Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.01.31 06:11:00 -
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I applaud this movement to exterminate the filthy Gallente subhuman race. ------------------------------- Be Caldari, be proud. Haak-kin k'len
Leon / LN026
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Ruby LeFonte
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Posted - 2006.01.31 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Leon 026 I applaud this movement to exterminate the filthy Gallente subhuman race.
looks at Caldari genetic profile
Hmmm...
looks at Gallente genetic profile
Oh dear, don't think you'd like what I see here. _
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Lillith Blackheart
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Posted - 2006.01.31 16:19:00 -
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As painful as it may be, Shintoko is correct. The Federation is chock full of rabid consumers who make up one of our largest markets outside the State. It's amusing that you are attempting to bolster our already bustling and quickly growing economy by destroying one of our target markets.
Not very well thought through, I think.
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Svetlana Scarlet on 31/01/2006 17:13:40
Originally by: Lillith Blackheart Not very well thought through, I think.
That does not seem to be one of SERK's better qualities. While I cannot speak for the rest of the Reserves, obviously, I think this is an ill-advised move and further cements my opinion that SERK is nothing more than a gang of pirates (most of whom are not Caldari in the least) whose loyalty to the State stretches only so far as it will get them more targets. When it comes down to it, they have shown that they have no problem declaring war on Caldari patriots over the slightest insult to their massive egos.
While I cannot deny that their prowess in battle is far superior to most I have seen, I cannot in good conscience ever bring myself to cooperate with them. -- LT Svetlana Scarlet Deputy Quartermaster Captain, CNS Redball Express Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |

Sarchez
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Posted - 2006.01.31 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner No, Dividing the market between more.... worthy Races. For example, without quafe, Starsi will profit more no?
Maybe Starsi is simply not a good enough product to compete with Quafe ? Feel free to increase your export of it to Amarr though.
(lo scum )
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Crackhead Bob
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:11:00 -
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Why do something so unprofitable? Why draw us into something that could only lead to my bottom line dropping?
Caldari Prime is a lamentable fact in history, we should learn from it but not obsess over it. Holding grudges is something other people do. Let the Amarr and their "escaped property" fight it out. Let the Gallente self-destruct through internal and petty disputes.
The Caldari state is the most stable right now of all the empires. We are the realists par excellence! We should never get so caught up in history as to not look forward (see the Amarr), or feel so downtrodden as to let a chip on our shoulders lead us blindly (Minmatar). We are the most pragmatic. We know that ISK fuels progress and brings happiness.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.01.31 18:31:00 -
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Allthough im reluctant to discuss this further, i will point out a few things.
This is not as much about business as it is revenge. I find it funny how you all speak of a strong Caldari State and call yourselves patriots while you loath in your own wealth.
Svetlana obsesses about us being pirates allthough i hanvent seen her do anything to prove her loyalty or patritism appart from her own words. How do you contribute to the state? how do you show loyalty?
You might feel that cuddeling with the Caldari navy agents will highten your self esteem and give you some honor. That might be true, but it does nothing towards the goal. It gives you money, pays your bills, and the rest is thrown in your pockets.
Just remember this... our ancestors fought the gallente and died to GIVE you that independence. To give you all the rights today, if it had not been done... if the blood of all those caldari had not been spilled by the hands of the federation scum, the caldari would be nothing more than second class citizens in a federation undoubtably not caring for our wellbeing.
Speak patriotism all you want, unless you act, it means nothing. |

Gaius Sejanus
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:20:00 -
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Oh no, a wanted outlaw who would try to kill me anyway is promising to try to kill me for other reasons!
I'd say more but I'm far too busy shaking with fear....
...No, wait, that's laughter. My mistake.
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Lillith Blackheart
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:27:00 -
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Mr. Steiner, I think you neglect one of the most important things.
You state it is not business, it is revenge.
Revenge is a business, in and of itself.
Me.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.31 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner No, Dividing the market between more.... worthy Races. For example, without quafe, Starsi will profit more no?
Maybe Starsi is simply not a good enough product to compete with Quafe ?
Figures you'd prefer the taste of garbage and biological waste.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Renault
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Posted - 2006.01.31 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner We will never forget Caldari prime, and now the redemption has begun.
Ah, selective memory. How useful, how convenient. I suppose, though, that it wouldn't do for you and your propaganda to recall Nouvelle Rouvenor while lamenting your homeworld? No, I didn't think so. To a zealot such as yourself, the fact that your ancestors drew first blood in the great conflict between our civilizations by sending five hundred thousand Gallente to a watery grave must hold little significance, yes?
Put your vain "redemption" on hold. A peace, however uneasy, does exist between the Gallente and the Caldari. The prosperous path involves time and diplomacy. Both of our nations have more pressing internal problems.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 31/01/2006 21:21:42 Or we could have ended up like the Intaki as second class citizens? I chose independence and so should the intaki.
Or has the federation stepped up the protection of the homeworld yet? *laughs* |

Renault
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 31/01/2006 21:21:42 Or we could have ended up like the Intaki as second class citizens? I chose independence and so should the intaki.
Or has the federation stepped up the protection of the homeworld yet? *laughs*
Interesting attempt to confuse the issue. It fails, however. You're welcome to talk to me about the Intaki when you're less blinded by militant extremism. In the meantime, reconsider your motives. The big picture shows you repeating the mistakes of the past.
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.01.31 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Allthough im reluctant to discuss this further, i will point out a few things.
This is not as much about business as it is revenge. I find it funny how you all speak of a strong Caldari State and call yourselves patriots while you loath in your own wealth.
Svetlana obsesses about us being pirates allthough i hanvent seen her do anything to prove her loyalty or patriotism appart from her own words. How do you contribute to the state? how do you show loyalty?
Revenge is a petty, worthless, and ultimately empty goal. "Retaking Caldari Prime" will do nothing, even if you and your band of terrorists could manage to do so. There is nothing left for us there now -- all it will do is drain resources to try and hold on a piece of relatively small territory in the middle of your enemy's supply lines. Caldari Prime is purely a sentimental prize, and offers no tangible value. You are the one who asks me what I have done to serve the State, and I ask you, what profit would come from us wasting resources on a bloody war with a pointless goal?
As for what I have done, I have fought against pirates and terrorists the likes of you and your ilk, even with the odds against me, because a line must be drawn between those of us who seek to preserve the State and its citizens and keep them from harm, and those who would use patriotism as a veil to hide who they really are. Tell me -- how many patrols does SERK do of low-security Caldari systems to clean them out of pirate trash and open them for exploitation by Caldari industrialists? How many wars have you fought against those who declare war on the Caldari industrial base simply hoping for a few easy targets? I would guess few, since your compatriots have a fondness for trying to go after those they perceive as easy targets merely to stroke their own egos. Perhaps you are different -- you are a recent addition to their roster, after all -- but you claim SERK as friends, and no true Caldari patriot would side with thugs and murderers who proudly proclaim it in their own corporate name.
You can disparage me all you like -- it will not change the fact of who you and SERK really are. I have no apologies for my actions and my duties as part of the Reserve. And while our corporation may not be able to call a spade a spade for diplomatic reasons, I have no qualms about doing so as a private citizen. You and your kind are worse than Ushra'Khan -- at least I believe their patriotism for the Republic, as misguided as it might be. I have little doubt that SERK would turn against the State (as they suggested doing previous to their war against TKI) should it strike their fancy. If that is not how you feel, Mr. Steiner, then perhaps you should rethink your current association with them. -- LT Svetlana Scarlet Deputy Quartermaster Captain, CNS Redball Express Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |

Boneafied
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Posted - 2006.01.31 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Boneafied on 31/01/2006 22:57:32 Edited by: Boneafied on 31/01/2006 22:56:57
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet how many patrols does SERK do of low-security Caldari systems to clean them out of pirate trash
Would indeed depend upon your deffinition of pirate & trash.. our lives revolve around low sec Caldar.. empire is a stranger place i would call home.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet How many wars have you fought against those who declare war on the Caldari industrial base simply hoping for a few easy targets?
I see not why wars in timeshards past should be held as evidence of intent. Its is not our intentions to bicker over such meaningless statistics. And the alliances we have fought are by no means 'easy targets' as your slander sujests.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet You and your kind are worse than Ushra'Khan -- at least I believe their patriotism for the Republic, as misguided as it might be.
Dark are your words Caldar, look beyond at what can be achieved by such an alliance.. The bonds lie deep in Matar, unlike what I have seen anywhere else within this timeshard. I appreciate your honesty, but the barriers you build will always block your path forward.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.01.31 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Renault
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Edited by: Kyogen Steiner on 31/01/2006 21:21:42 Or we could have ended up like the Intaki as second class citizens? I chose independence and so should the intaki.
Or has the federation stepped up the protection of the homeworld yet? *laughs*
Interesting attempt to confuse the issue. It fails, however. You're welcome to talk to me about the Intaki when you're less blinded by militant extremism. In the meantime, reconsider your motives. The big picture shows you repeating the mistakes of the past.
confusing of what? that the federation does not care about your homeworld? or did i miss something? I fail to see whats confusing about me asking you a question that you have yet to answer.
Have a look at what the federation has done/not done to the intaki people. I may be millitant, but ignoring the fact that the federation does not care for your homeworld makes their attitude towards "assimilated" races quite obvious dont you think? Im sure the women and children dying at the hands of the massive pirate infestation there would agree. |

Renault
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Posted - 2006.02.01 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
confusing of what? that the federation does not care about your homeworld? or did i miss something? I fail to see whats confusing about me asking you a question that you have yet to answer.
You are confusing the issue by, in your "question," artificially creating a corollary between the Intaki and the Caldari to justify terrorist attacks on the Federation.
The differences between the plight of the Intaki homeworld and the Caldari secession are so vast as to be completely incomparable, and the fact that you attempt to liken the two for your reckless purpose is an insult to each culture's respective history.
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Kyogen Steiner
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Renault
Originally by: Kyogen Steiner
confusing of what? that the federation does not care about your homeworld? or did i miss something? I fail to see whats confusing about me asking you a question that you have yet to answer.
You are confusing the issue by, in your "question," artificially creating a corollary between the Intaki and the Caldari to justify terrorist attacks on the Federation.
The differences between the plight of the Intaki homeworld and the Caldari secession are so vast as to be completely incomparable, and the fact that you attempt to liken the two for your reckless purpose is an insult to each culture's respective history.
Really? please explain how, and try to be more specific please. |

Karl Mattar
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:22:00 -
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SERK
I wish you great success in this new venture.
I look forward to the return of Caldari Prime.
~Karl Mattar
This message is a personal opinion, and not reflective of any higher position of CAIN or the State.
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Renault
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner Really? please explain how, and try to be more specific please.
You made the comparison. The burden of explanation is on you.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kyogen Steiner without quafe, Starsi will profit more no?
No. Starsi sales benefit from Quafe's minimal competition. Just ask them.
Originally by: Renault Nouvelle Rouvenor
I STILL want to know...what the hell possessed you people to build an underwater city with nothing but a thin sheet of glass between the city and the ocean?
Seriously, common sense here? -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! |
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